Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 06-06-2008, 03:16 PM   #1
zero75
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36
pros and cons of no affilate program

what are the pros and cons of having no affiliate program for a paysite?

i have 6 affiliates so far, 5 are doing ratios i'd be happy with myself, one new one is doing incredibly poorly but sending alot of hits.

debating if i should just forget about the affiliate program and perhaps just hiring or finding one person to promote my site.
__________________
TightTeela ICQ Dennis : 20160333
zero75 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 03:18 PM   #2
payd2purv
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
payd2purv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,727
It'll cost more.
__________________
payd2purv is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 03:19 PM   #3
baddog
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the beach, SoCal
Posts: 107,089
Is it costing you money to have the affiliate program, other than the payouts?

I would not rely solely on affiliates, but no reason the take it down if it is already there.
baddog is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:03 PM   #4
woj
<&(©¿©)&>
 
woj's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 47,882
pros: Affiliates kinda dilute the value of your paysite, the more affiliates you have the smaller pie there is left for yourself
pros: can focus on generating your own traffic instead of dealing with affiliates

cons: missing on free income
cons: possibly first point is actually the opposite, the more affiliates you have the more you develop your brand, and the more your site actually becomes popular
__________________
Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager
Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager
woj is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:11 PM   #5
st0ned
Confirmed User
 
st0ned's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 8,437
Do you have FHGs?
__________________
Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts.
We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic!
Skype: ConversionSharks || Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com
st0ned is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:12 PM   #6
notoldschool
Confirmed User
 
notoldschool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,687
Pros - More Income, Free Marketing, Occasional Relationship Creation, when you scoop up a whale every now and then it can be very enjoyable.

Cons - Dealing with affiliates in itself can be time consuming, If you pay for bandwidth and have multiple affiliates sending you alot of free traffic it can add up quick.
__________________
No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand

http://www.bjpenn.com
notoldschool is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:15 PM   #7
SomeCreep
:glugglug
 
SomeCreep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Where the Wild Things Are
Posts: 26,118
Quote:
Originally Posted by zero75 View Post
what are the pros and cons of having no affiliate program for a paysite?

i have 6 affiliates so far, 5 are doing ratios i'd be happy with myself, one new one is doing incredibly poorly but sending alot of hits.

debating if i should just forget about the affiliate program and perhaps just hiring or finding one person to promote my site.
Sounds like you're taking affiliates for granted. Be grateful that anyone is willing to send you traffic at all. Be happy to take a 50% cut of their hard work.
__________________

Webair Hosting

I use and recommend Webair for hosting.
SomeCreep is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:16 PM   #8
st0ned
Confirmed User
 
st0ned's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 8,437
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeCreep View Post
Sounds like you're taking affiliates for granted. Be grateful that anyone is willing to send you traffic at all. Be happy to take a 50% cut of their hard work.
True that.
__________________
Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts.
We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic!
Skype: ConversionSharks || Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com
st0ned is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:19 PM   #9
Sly
Let's do some business!
 
Sly's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,327
Quote:
Originally Posted by zero75 View Post
what are the pros and cons of having no affiliate program for a paysite?

i have 6 affiliates so far, 5 are doing ratios i'd be happy with myself, one new one is doing incredibly poorly but sending alot of hits.

debating if i should just forget about the affiliate program and perhaps just hiring or finding one person to promote my site.

Not to sound harsh, but if you think you can simply hire someone as an employee that would work as hard as an affiliate does to generate sales for you... you are sadly mistaken.

It costs you virtually nothing to have affiliates... why would you not?
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.
Sly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:21 PM   #10
ThumbLord
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
very interesting, just a bump since I do own a small paysite myself and do have the same problem.
for me it is hard to find affiliates that are to be trusted but yes they will bring in extra sign-ups (well they should) but they are really time consuming and yes they are branding the paysite as well.
For now I settled for affiliates by invite only.
  Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:25 PM   #11
ThumbLord
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
the amount of affiliates is important as well I think, the more people trying to sell it the less they make per person.
if this sounds stupid, sorry.
  Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 04:46 PM   #12
zero75
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36
i added an affiliate program because of all the advantages, my worry is that fhg's that i pay for that don't bring any money in, i don't want to be an asshole and tell this affiliate he can't use them, while another person can.

i'm asking for opinions because i'm wondering if there was no public affiliate program, and hired or offered promotion to one or limited people, the competition for them would be less. i may be wrong and if i was it certainly wouldn't be the first time.

lastly, i don't and wouldn't take an affiliates work for granted, but i do generate 90&#37; of my sites income on my own. looking at it like this, you give out promo at your own expense to help an affilate make sales, if they send nothing but worthless traffic to your fhg's, then really what is the point. would it not be better to only work with people that are interested in mutual gain
__________________
TightTeela ICQ Dennis : 20160333
zero75 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 05:38 PM   #13
payd2purv
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
payd2purv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,727
An affiliate program is cheap advertising.

The only downfall is you have to run an affiliate program. backend, support, promotional stuff, payouts, etc...

You can hire a marketing person to setup advertising deals on websites but it'll cost you to pay him/her and for the banner spots/etc..

But if you have an affiliate program you get those banner spots and you only have to pay when you want :P
__________________
payd2purv is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 05:39 PM   #14
notoldschool
Confirmed User
 
notoldschool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThumbLord View Post
the amount of affiliates is important as well I think, the more people trying to sell it the less they make per person.
if this sounds stupid, sorry.
The internet is a big place and most sites dont get traffic from the same source if ya know what i mean.
__________________
No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand

http://www.bjpenn.com
notoldschool is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008, 06:01 PM   #15
B2BwithJoeD
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PayoutMag.com
Posts: 1,390
Tony 404 needs to comment on this one. I think Tony has some strong opinions on this subject
__________________
BLOG IT!
How Will You Spend Your 2014 Profits? -
PayoutMag.com
Ask me About - Unique Processing and Marketing Solutions - Your Only Risk Is More Revenue!
B2BwithJoeD is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.