Thanks for letting me know you are the idiot. Stop blaming your kid for your failings. His mistakes = your fault.

If you can't accept that.... oh wait we already established you're a fucking moron.

when i was his age i was pretty rough too, never listened, had fits and did what ever i wanted to.. my parents yelled at me, threatened to throw me out and lots of other stuff.. nearly escalated into violence several times.

from all that looking back over the years ive only seen one thing that could make me feel really bad about what i'd done. if my mother started crying i knew i'd fucked up. so you should try that. But it all ended well, they seem to have nudged me in the right directions at the right times so im fine now. but it could have gone to hell in a bad way.

Thats pretty good. Does it make you feel more intelligent to correct my posts? I feel so beneath you now because your sooo smart. LOL. Get a life sig whore. Matter a fact how about sig whoring something worth a shit while u are at it dip shit.

ignore assholes like this. don't even bother responding to the dickwod who got nothing better to do then talk this way as it makes him feel better about his low ass life when he puts down other people.
in regards to your son, not sure what is the best way but i would start with talking to him and finding out why he is doing that. if i were to guess it would be because he wants to be cool with his friends.
show him long term health issues if he continues this way.
i say take the oppesite approach and do what he doesn't expect you to do so it throws his off balance and maybe this way you can get closer to the issues to help him.

A 12 year old doesn't understand health issues. That's why they are 12. He can barely figure out what a dick is and how to eat cheerios without spilling milk all over his shorts his mom bought him.

Suggesting that: "Informing a 12 year old of the adverse health risks induced by smoking" is a great way to help a child stop his rebellious act makes me think you people are all beyond the stage of being mental retards.

Unreal how stupid humans are.

Children are mold able, shape able creatures. His mind is jello, but he is starting to develop. Using some BASIC psychology to reverse or at least slow this trend can be done.

Try sites like; http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/

I'm not hating. I just know when a parent is a moron and a kid is simply a bi product of a person like that. There's still time to fix your mistakes in his brain and behavior. But now is the time.

I'm not a parent, but I know that you need to have him know that you are not an idiot, you had his age before, and you can fucking smell cigarette smoke... if he's still lying to you about it, he's not showing respect... thats my 1 cent.

And I also vote for the wardrobe experiment.
When I had about his age, my mom told me I could do whatever I wanted... so I smoked. I don't smoke anymore... but I wish that someone could have made me realize so I would have never touched a cigarette again.

I took him to all his Hockey, Soccer, Basket ball , even softball games. <---- Chauffer

I was the one routing for him like he was my hero. <--- heros are higher up on the food chain than lowly parents

I live in a great neighborhood, with very lil crime or if any! <--- safety net, high expectations

He also (DOES HAVE DIRT BIKES AND RIDES them with his friends in my back yard) <--- Rock star image to live up to at school

Great kid all around he's suspended for talking to much! <--- Kids don't get suspended for talking too much. They get suspended for refusing to follow the rules, repeatedly. I'm sure your son was a "great kid" to the teachers that told him to keep quiet, repeatedly. Your position on this matter scares me a lot, as you're siding with your son.

From what I've seen as an observant kinda guy, is that parents who generally side with their kids (school's fault, stupid teacher, school sucks, it isn't forever, don't talk to my son that way, etc etc) are well, bad parents. Not saying you're one, but really, ask yourself why you would back your son up after getting kicked out of school? What are you teaching him? Can you not consider that it may be his fault?

his dad is around 50% of the time, we get along and live 4 miles from each other

I was reading Nietzsche when I was 13, smoking weed, finger banging my girlfriend afterschool at her house - where I half lived... I had already done a co-op job placement, and started several small companies/projects. At 14 I helped start a series of websites that sold to Internet.com. I was calling public relations department at huge companies and convincing them to mail me their new products to my home address for free, so I could write about them. When I was 16 I secured a $250,000 venture capital investment in another company I helped start.

Kids grow up at different rates. I have a cousin of sorts from Mexico who is 14 now, and he's probably operating at about the level of a 10 year old. Everyone is different, and you can't baby kids. You have to allow them to earn your respect, and be damned sure they respect you.

The kid is experimentating.. i never got the reason why parents were so eager to exercise their authority

Good for you?
Her kid is a douche. I am basing what I am saying off him, not your wild story.

12 is a lil older then you think, you are classless, you are the kind of person I'm trying to stop my son from being! Trailer trash etc. Now go smoke your crack and post somewhere else! Looser!

Consider this: We share an office at the moment with a friend of mine. He had a new employee, someone from our circle of friends, known him off and on forever.

Long story short, he didn't respect anything around here, treated it like his home, got caught in lies, slept here on the couch repeatedly, etc. We asked him a simple request one day to move his bike so the cleaner could mop the floor. My biz partner asked him to move his shit (again, not even our employee, but he knows we're just as "boss" as his boss..) and he got all up his face, yelling and screaming out of nowhere. Somehow my biz partner didn't hit him, no idea how.. We took his key.

Next week my buddy convinced us to let him back in. We said okay, another chance. Within 2 weeks, he slept here again, my programmer told him politely one morning that he shouldn't be sleeping when people get here, and he did the same thing. Flipped out on her. She called us crying.

Another flare up, we asked for the key - this time he said no!! He said no the first time, but we made him basically. This time he like ran off with it lol. :) So we changed the locks immediately, etc etc. He came back to get his shit with his MOMMY, (dude is like 35 fucking years old!) and guess what his mom does..

Talks shit the whole time about us, how we're not treating her son fairly, why are we giving him a hard time, all this shit.. We basically had to tell her to fuck off and mind her own business. She got all up in our face - just like her son did.. Gee wonder where it came from.

She's the same lady who sided with her son over his teachers, over the police, over his employers.. Her son is an angel to her.

To us, he's almost certainly a drug addict, highly volatile, impolite, rude, obnoxious, violent... Disrespectful... And has no understanding of reality.

I think you should show him what the tobacco is doing to his innocent little lungs. To accomplish this, you must tear them from his chest. I'd try going down the throat, maybe.

You're a failed mother and a failed person which is why this thread exists. You pass the buck... which is why this thread exists.

You are clearly trailer trash... which is why this thread exists.

You fail at life. Stop trying to put anything on me, it won't work.

It's shocking how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are.

Actually it's not... your son smokes and is suspended at age 12. Good work, trashy mctrasherton! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Brad, I guess your mother never taught you:

If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.

I had nothing against you before, but saying things like "you're a failed mother" and "you're trailer trash" and "you fail at life" maybe, just maybe, doesn't belong in a thread with a mother trying to get some advice about her family.

You clearly have no sense of family. Do us all a favour and leave this thread alone.

Now can up your attack on me too, just move on man.. You went far enough already.

Are you trolling BradM? You are pretty much highly disrespectful and rude towards someone you don't know, because you are making some assumptions...

Do you know that some kids that grow up in dysfunctional families then become doctors?

Or some kids that have very good parents get in trouble and become criminals?

Of course it's easy to blame the parent, but you don't know the whole situation.. maybe she needs to rethink her strategy, but her kid is also responsible for his own actions. It's not like if she controls him like a puppet.

Socks: I don't give a shit what you have against me. Fact is this woman sucks at something and when given advice says "OMG ITS NOT THE KID ITS THE BAD TEACHERS AND HIM NOT HAVING A DAD AND OMG EVERYTHING BUT ME AND HIM!!!!"

She's a moron. The fact that you're wasting your time on her just means you're bored. I clued in, and the 9 minutes I spent typing this will be for not, but at least I realize she isn't here for advice, or family suggestions or help. She's here to brag and brand something.

So Socks... do us all a favor and shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I could buy you and put you on a shelf, play with you when I want! But I'm not a garbage picker! I'm done with posting with you, a few people here know me as a person, and know I'm far from trash! I was shocked thats why I posted this. You wouldn't be in my face talking like this that's for sure! Type away, about how much you hate life, the world etc. no one cares!

is something wrong with u? im betting you were a lonely child with dead beat parents. you lash out like u have serious family issues.

No you're right I wouldn't say anything to your face. Anyone who KNOWS ME and knows how I am would know I'd happily laugh at your face and give you a nice slap. Maybe it would slap the idiot out of you. Doubtful though.

Your son will be in jail in 4 years and you'll wish you had thought a lot more about what I said up top this thread instead of going on a retarded tirade.

lol yeah.. A 12 year old has a smoke and this guy is going apeshit.

Imagine what he thinks about his penis pill customers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're still a failed parent.

:1orglaugh
Wrong. You know nothing also. Why am I responding to you, Mr. Fake Nick?

You lash out like an uneducated fool. What's worse?

Ooooooooooh I'm about to get all Franck on your ass.

I have to admit that I am uneducated on your back ground but I go by what I read. I was actually quite surprised to read your childesh tirade against a single mother, but I guess I missed some of your past nasty posts.

You are the uneducated one though. I started smoking when I was thirteen, my parents are celebrating their 40th anniversary this week. I was treated quite well, I have a set of Class A's with more decoration than your Christmas tree, I got my degree with honers, and I run a very successful proggie and rather large network all by my lonesome.

That alone shows that your theory is as ignorant as you are.

Mayby he feel neglected because your youngest son with Autism is taking too much attention ?
If it is the case I wouldnt say it is your fault, but something you would need to deal with

Someone who comes to an adult webmaster forum called "go fuck Yourself" and asks for advice on bringing up her children, who at 12 is smoking and suspended from school, calls someone here an idiot?

I guess the irony is lost on you.


Poor kids :(

That's hot. Too bad your not in San Diego. I'm also a single parent and I always love meeting single moms, I just relate to them so much more. Plus its hard to do family stuff when I'm dating a girl without a kid. Anyways good luck.

I say no big deal - your mother also wouldn't be so happy when she knew about your first blow job done couple of years ago....

You guys are jerks. I think GFY is a great place to vent and thats all she is doing. nobody comes here thinking they are going to get great advice but I think they just are looking to hear similar stories or just get an idea or two. GFY does have its fair share of morons but it also has a well mixed crowd of all races, countries, gender, age, etc...

Careful, that kind of logical sense can have grave consequences here at GFY :winkwink:

I'm 26 and I remember smoking my first cig when I was 11, I didn't even know how to inhale. I say its just part of growing up, he will experiment with things you might not like but thats the only way we he can learn. Just set high expectations for him and let him know you don't care he smoked, we all experiment and screw up and you know that he wont let you down again.

Oh also I hate cigs by the way. Gross gross

nice idea, Shame its wrong, GFY isnt a great place for anything apart from picking up the odd adult webmaster affiliate to help sell pictures off woman with dildo's up there cunt.

It isnt a place to get friends, and certainly isnt a place to share ideas on parenting. If you think it is I hope you never have kids, if you have kids and think this is the place to share parenting skills, I feel sorry for them :(

Looks like the only other person who thinks this is a good place to share parenting skills have kids at 12 suspended from school who smoke.

don't punish him. talk to him. tell him its ok to smoke but give him limitations. (like smoke outside the room etc.) and explain the consequences if he continues with the habit. so in the end he will think about it, and might stop eventually.

make him feel that you support him in anything. ryt now that he is suspended, i think he is feeling down, and needs your support.

Obviously English wasn't a requirement.

Right, this sorta escalated.. I still stick to my advice though, a crying mother always shut me up.

Ha ha...i was waitin to pounce, but then comes the old man first...like I siad before never less than a A in comp or any comp paper for that mater. I love helping you get your post count close to equal to your age dinosaur man. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

schools are much easier int this century but u woulnt no.

lol I can even laugh at that, I also went to mom2mom site but I post here alot lately, so the people who know me understand. As for advice here???? to my understanding we are all normal people here with family's. I didn't know you thought everyone here was such loosers that I shouldn't ask.

Send him to bootcamp ;-)

dont explain yourself to trash... they are too stupid to understand!!! He probably dropped out of school and had parents like he's trying to describe me as. So he's angry! He needs love! We all love you Brad take a xanax and get some sleep! ok

wicked :)
thats bad

Thanx it's nice to hear that. When I called his father he basically said the same things. He was in a fort with 4 other boys and they all tried it. They were the same age. I feel better. And if I do catch him again I will do what half of you said.... to make him smoke the whole pack till he pukes.:winkwink:

I'd work on having him around the other 50% of the time. You clearly have a problem with this kid if he is only 12 and already getting into serious problems at school.

It stems from something. Just gotta find out what it is.

Best of luck.

1878 posts since 2002. It's quite obvious I am a sig whore.

The first person to offer me a cigarette was my dad when I was a child, maybe 6 or 7 years old (I always asked if I could try things, and he let me in his presence). Ditto for alcohol. I experimented a little further in highschool with my friends, but I knew it was never something I would continue. My parents aren't smokers nor drinkers although grandma was a chain smoker.

But all situations are different and individual temperaments and addictive personalities differ too.

find his cigarettes, slide a couple hairs into each of them.

No teenage kid that has expermented with smoking is going to stop just because his mom says so or because he's punished. It will just make him want to do it more. You have to figure out a way to make him decide it's bad.

When I was a kid I experimented with smoking but didn't continue. I also didn't do drugs but it wasn't because my parents told me not to.. It was because I decided not to on my own. That's the key.. He has to decide it for him self.

Hell the best thing that probably happened to me was I knew a guy that did way too much pot.. To the point the he was getting pretty damn stupid. Anytime I thought of drugs after that I thought of that dude and how useless he was.

I'd say try and find some one dying of cancer in the hospital or someone who has to talk through the hole in their throat and let your son spend some quality time with them..