are you reatrded? seriously. The tax on cigarettes is there to help pay for the medical problems that smoking those cigarettes cause. WTF does that have to do with video games? Show me where video games cause cancer. Seriously show some facts where you can state violent video games cause X amount of $ in health care costs. You can't but you certainly can with cigarettes. Anyone here still trying to deny cigarettes don't have health consequences isn't worth talking too. Even the cigarete makers agree cihgarettes are bad for you.

games dont cause cancer, they cause bloodlust and WAR!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...s-inside_x.htm

what im basicly saying is once you give the government an inch and they take a mile. its cigs today. tommorrow its something else they've decided (or can convince you) is bad or costly to the government. if cigs are as bad for all as you think, why not just outlaw them? that'd eliminate the healthcare costs completely. they wont do that though because the tax rev is too great on taxing things many rely on daily.

YOU=RETARD.

No point in talking to you. consider yourself ignored. I have better things to do than to argue with people that refuse to listen to LOGIC and REASON. You admit your family smoke. Therefor you are BIASED. So anything that goes against your bias is dismissed. That is neither logical or reasonable or intelligent. Once again if you would put EMOTION aside open your mind abnd look at things FACTUALLY then you realize I am correct.

You could think the sky is green with purple polka-dots that doesn't make it true and wishing for it to be true doesn't make it true and denying that the sky is blue doesn't make is green with purple poka-dots. Then sooner you accept the truth in things even if it goes against what you previously believed the happier you will be and you won't be living a life of ignorance. If everyone believed that way 99% of the world's problems would be over.

i pay $15 a pack (20) for Marlboro reds up here, It isnt easy getting people to smuggle now a days....... You guys have the smokes to match our beer :)

I know tons of people ordering from online who ended up getting big tax bills in the mail.

Always use western union when ordering smokes online!

Or simply have a friend in NC or VA send you some......they are 20$ a carton

when did i say smoking was good? smoking IS BAD for your health, just like mcdonalds, but if the government really had your best interests at heart theyd outlaw it like marijuana instead of just taxing it more. you just dont like people who smoke so anything that cuts into that is good in your eyes regardless of the ramifications to everything else the government might perceive as unnecessary or bad for your health.

i guess some people just dont like their views being challenged. i could careless about this tax since i dont live anywhere near NY. i care in general because whenever i hear about the goddamn porn tax discussed people point to the success of taxing cigs and use it as an example of a positive method of curbing demand on what they deem damaging. take it or leave it, ive heard that justification at least 20 times.

btw, you = retard
you think the experts who dont think porn is damaging get a voice when these taxes are on the table? fuck no. its the people who parrot the view that'll ultimately scare people into accepting their tax that get called to appear infront of the committee and talk about how damaging it is.

http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1207
then
http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/acrylamide.html
you can see from that second link that they just gave up. tax freedom fries!!!! they DO cause CANCER. or is this apples and oranges too because one you despise and the other you enjoy? your quest is noble but your methods are retarded. forcing others to pay for peoples choices is a bad idea.
anyways...
more info on acrylamide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

they do say ignorance is bliss so enjoy it while it lasts. ever heard the term "porn/sexual addiction"? addicts need help. help costs money. who should pay for that? the ones creating the porn, thats who! its their fault isnt it? sooner or later the industries ive listed in this thread WILL be targeted by corrupt government officials looking to vilify anyone and anything that goes against THEIR PERSONAL beliefs (usually based in religion) to fill budget shortfalls created by pork projects. maybe the shit they throw sticks, maybe it doesnt. id rather not give them the power in the first place but since you think they'll use that power responsibly ill just trust in your judgement. when i think about it, history HAS shown our government to do just that. show restraint in going after people and making objective decisions that are best for the country. :1orglaugh

anyways, gatorb = assclown
this is boring. time for a bongrip

a pack of smokes cost about 8 dollars here.

a pack with >17< cigaretts is 4,00EUR over here.

Switch to Marijuana. It's free. (you can grow your own)
And it's healthier than cigarettes.

GatorB your arguement sucks, you got more of a chance dying in a car accident shit licker

All you cig smokers are Phillip Morris bitches.

i just lit up a smoke again!!!!!!!!!!

I used to smoke until a little over two weeks ago when I got sick....I don't know what happened afterwards but I couldn't imagine putting a lit cigarette to my lips now....

My argument makes perfect sense. See your bais is showing. By the way only 40,000 people die in car accidents. At least 10 times that many die from smoking.

I'm not saying that smoking has negligible health effects. I'm saying that when a non smoker complains about second hand smoke, they're silly for allowing their lawmakers to ignore the primary problems of pollution.

I read a study from one Canadian city that calculated that for every minute that a car idles, it's equivilent to 1 million cigarettes worth of second hand smoke. In terms of carcinogens.. Thats a pretty big deal, but again it's not a "sexy" issue. Lawmakers know that to make it with the votes, they have to do popular easy to pass things that can be completed while they're still in office. Like banning smoking in mall parking lots n shit, lol.

But anyway, smoking is bad and people should quit. And if you idle your car more than 30 seconds, shame on you too. Turn it off, save gas, save money, save lungs.

Sorry, I didn't see this till now.

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It takes a minimum of 2 weeks to get to her in the Southeast. Sometimes it's around 3, or a little more. I just make sure that I do her re-orders in plenty of time so that she's not freaking out when she gets down to the last pack or two.

And guess who saves on Social Security payouts? YOU the taxpayer. So maybe the government should subsidize smoking?

easy enough solution, the federal and state governments should stop paying for healthcare. Prices of healthcare would drop in a heart beat.

You really believe that money will be spent on health care? :1orglaugh Just like social security was set aside. :1orglaugh

ahh shit that sucks.

oh well I don't smoke nor live in ny, so it dosen't sucks...

do you even know what bias is? you seem to use that word where it doesnt belong. was it a new word you heard on msnbc? anyways, how many die each year as a result of obesity? isnt obesity just behind cancer on biggest killers annually? obesity has been linked to cancer also so if you think fast food giants arent contributing to the growing numbers of morbidly obese fucks getting cancer then you're crazy. so again, why not tax mcdonalds? the fat fucks who live on that food alone cost the tax payers BILLION in HEALTH CARE. better yet... how about we setup another government bureaucracy to determine and tax foods based on their calorie/nutrition ratio. 50% tax on candy because that leads to obesity which leads to cancer. btw, arent the same poor people you cry about smoking cigs also the ones who eat the majority of the fast/unhealthy food?

again, gatorb=retard.
or am you are the bais?

its the republicans fault!!!!!!!!!!

Good smokers suck

count yourself lucky.. here in Canada they cost anywhere between $8 to $15 a pack lol

You should quit,... but if not http://www.tobaccobymail.com/

Cigarettes and booze should be taxed up the ass. Better than raising the price of electricity and gas.

I STILL can't see me smoking another cigarette.....Fuck that shit....

you wont think taxing a personal choices is so great when porn is next in the "sin tax" lineup. its better to tax porn then raising the price of electricity and gas. right? :Oh crap :error

LIGHTBULB!! tax coffee! i dont drink coffee so this tax wont effect me but it will help keep the costs of things i tend to enjoy down (subsidized). awesome!!!!!