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baddog 06-01-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 14262325)
Baddog everyone knows ur a republican racist old man who will hopefully die soon. Please disappear. Thanks

Actually, a life long Democrat, so kindly go fuck yourself.

Turboface 06-01-2008 12:31 AM

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pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262328)
Daffy Duck doesn't support the war. That doesn't matter though. I am just voting for him because he's black.

I don't vote for him because he's black, I could careless. I also don't normally like voting for Democrats, as I have a libertarian leaning that cringes at the thought of expanding our government in certain areas.

But Obama isn't as big a danger to my business as McCain is. McCain has been a HUGE proponent in trying to pass anti-porn, anti-social networking legislation. He's against net neutrality. Those are issues that are important to my business, not whether Obama has a mean, racist pastor.

I throw in the fact that I think things are going shitty in this country lately. Bad energy and financial policies have helped cause a shit dollar and ridiculously high gas prices. If people don't think that will trickle down into people's budget and factor into how much money they'll spend online, they're crazy. A recession hurts almost everyone. Do I think Obama can fix this? I don't know. But I know what I'm getting out of McCain and it's going to be the same shit that put us in the spot we're in right now.

Plus I'm just tired of the backwards social agenda of Republicans. I was a Republican primarily for fiscal reasons, but they don't even stand for that anymore. They're more worried about gay marriage, flag burning, and getting creationism taught in schools. I'm tired of our country being the fucking laughing stock of Western society when it comes to these issues. I'm tired of actual science like evolution being put on trial by retards. I'm tired of this push to put judges on the courts that would send social issues back 50 years.

So yeah, Obama blows. He probably won't get shit done. But at least he's not the same shit we've had for the past 8 years.

Babaganoosh 06-01-2008 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262344)
I don't vote for him because he's black, I could careless. I also don't normally like voting for Democrats, as I have a libertarian leaning that cringes at the thought of expanding our government in certain areas.

But Obama isn't as big a danger to my business as McCain is. McCain has been a HUGE proponent in trying to pass anti-porn, anti-social networking legislation. He's against net neutrality. Those are issues that are important to my business, not whether Obama has a mean, racist pastor.

I throw in the fact that I think things are going shitty in this country lately. Bad energy and financial policies have helped cause a shit dollar and ridiculously high gas prices. If people don't think that will trickle down into people's budget and factor into how much money they'll spend online, they're crazy. A recession hurts almost everyone. Do I think Obama can fix this? I don't know. But I know what I'm getting out of McCain and it's going to be the same shit that put us in the spot we're in right now.

Plus I'm just tired of the backwards social agenda of Republicans. I was a Republican primarily for fiscal reasons, but they don't even stand for that anymore. They're more worried about gay marriage, flag burning, and getting creationism taught in schools. I'm tired of our country being the fucking laughing stock of Western society when it comes to these issues. I'm tired of actual science like evolution being put on trial by retards. I'm tired of this push to put judges on the courts that would send social issues back 50 years.

So yeah, Obama blows. He probably won't get shit done. But at least he's not the same shit we've had for the past 8 years.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Did you really just type a serious response to my public endorsement of Daffy Duck?

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14262353)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Did you really just type a serious response to my public endorsement of Daffy Duck?

Yes :upsidedow

It wasn't really in response to you, just my thoughts as someone in the industry on why I'm voting for Obama. I'd be curious why people are voting for McCain. I'm not joking either. I've heard a lot of people say they will, but very few layout why they are or why they don't like Obama. Any takers?

bringer 06-01-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262358)
...or why they don't like Obama. Any takers?

hes a socialist :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262363)
hes a socialist :thumbsup

How so?:question

bringer 06-01-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262366)
How so?:question

step 1
learn what socialism is
step 2
?????????
step 3
profit!

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262368)
step 1
learn what socialism is
step 2
?????????
step 3
profit!

Since I don't know, perhaps you can fill me in on what makes him a socialist.

bringer 06-01-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262373)
Since I don't know, perhaps you can fill me in on what makes him a socialist.

Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which essential industries, social services, property and the distribution of wealth are publically and cooperatively owned and democratically controlled with a view to equal opportunity and equal benefit for all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

you're saying obama doesnt want to take more of my money and give it to those without? whos paying for socialized health care? he doesnt want MORE government control on every industry? hes an elitist fuck who wants me to make sacrifices in my life to support his popularity when he himself doesnt feel the pinch. fuck him and his stupid socialist party.

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262386)
Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which essential industries, social services, property and the distribution of wealth are publically and cooperatively owned and democratically controlled with a view to equal opportunity and equal benefit for all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

you're saying obama doesnt want to take more of my money and give it to those without? whos paying for socialized health care? he doesnt want MORE government control on every industry? hes an elitist fuck who wants me to make sacrifices in my life to support his popularity when he himself doesnt feel the pinch. fuck him and his stupid socialist party.

You are correct. I did a bit more research on him and found this.

He supports paying farmers tax dollars not to grow on their land. Supports the government being able to tell women what they can do with their bodies. Using tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Voted to spend $75 million on an abstinence program in our socialized school system. Voted to give scientists our tax dollars to study embryonic stem cells. Opposes allowing Americans to gamble their own money (unless it's an Indian casino). Supports making it illegal to burn a flag. Voted to set aside 10% of our highway funds for minorities and women. Wants to spend our tax dollars on the war on drugs in our socialized school system. Supported giving tax dollars to Indian tribes so they could fight meth addiction. Supports using $5 billion dollars in vouchers to pay for kids to go to private schools. Voted to ban where our oil companies are allowed to drill. Voted to give $3 million in tax payer funds to studying bear DNA. Has a track record for supporting our socialized national parks. Spend more money on our socialized military. Voted to allow illegal immigrants to participate in our social security system. Supports funding of AmeriCorps.

This doesn't include his supporting of our socialized education system, socialized airports, and socialized highway system.

Obama is a socialist, you are 100% correct. My bad.

marketsmart 06-01-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14262141)
the problem is not hillary, obama, or mccain.. the problem is the govt as a whole and that people in this country are sheep.. eating whatever the media feeds them.. until america wakes up and takes back the govt., it wont matter who's in the white house... nothing will get done, although i would be more afraid of mccain bringing us into another war or prolonging iraq for many more years..

what a lot of people dont realize is that the bush admin through the patriot act etc has paaved the way for future presidents to have unprecedented singular power and the ability to overstep congress at will....

i repeat.... this isnt about obama, hillary, or mccain....

bringer 06-01-2008 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262431)
You are correct. I did a bit more research on him and found this.

He supports paying farmers tax dollars not to grow on their land. Supports the government being able to tell women what they can do with their bodies. Using tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Voted to spend $75 million on an abstinence program in our socialized school system. Voted to give scientists our tax dollars to study embryonic stem cells. Opposes allowing Americans to gamble their own money (unless it's an Indian casino). Supports making it illegal to burn a flag. Voted to set aside 10% of our highway funds for minorities and women. Wants to spend our tax dollars on the war on drugs in our socialized school system. Supported giving tax dollars to Indian tribes so they could fight meth addiction. Supports using $5 billion dollars in vouchers to pay for kids to go to private schools. Voted to ban where our oil companies are allowed to drill. Voted to give $3 million in tax payer funds to studying bear DNA. Has a track record for supporting our socialized national parks. Spend more money on our socialized military. Voted to allow illegal immigrants to participate in our social security system. Supports funding of AmeriCorps.

This doesn't include his supporting of our socialized education system, socialized airports, and socialized highway system.

Obama is a socialist, you are 100% correct. My bad.

sarcasm, i get it! yeah, you're right. each of those socialized programs you listed he supports, including the MILITARY, schools, highways, etc etc, are all bankrupt or bankrupting cartels that get to set their own budgets allowing rampant fraud and gross over payments for even the basic services. btw, that money never gets down to those who deserve it like the soldiers. instead it goes to lockheed martin and other fuckbags. please show me which one of those programs, if any, that has any REAL accountability over wasteful spending. which has objective oversite from any 3rd party ensuring that we dont get more halliburton bullshit contracts that fuck us out of billions? none you say? sure, every once in awhile someone gets caught with their pants down and resigns, gets indited, then disappears from public view with probation and a BOOK DEAL. OMG, boohoo. obama supports each of those programs and wants to add even more, health care, allowing each to grow larger and more intertwined into our infrastructure. do you honestly believe that we wouldnt get cheaper prices AND BETTER SERVICE if COMPETITION existed for any of these programs? any at all? COMPETITION!!!!! it lowers prices, saving us, the tax payers, MONEY. how many privately run businesses would be around if they employed the assholes who work at your local government run offices like the DMV. btw, you yourself said it. "Supports using $5 billion dollars in vouchers to pay for kids to go to private schools." why send kids to PRIVATE SCHOOL if SOCIALIZED is better? its not, which is why people are now demanding a way out of the public school system and into a PRIVATE SCHOOL. PRIVATE IS BETTER. and if private is better why not adopt that model to better educate the kids who dont get the choice of going to a private school? it'll never happen because unions cant exist in a free market. unions control many sheep. bahhhh to you motherfucker :thumbsup

ps, i really dont care about any of this. im just bored and a little high

"Dont forget to bring a towl"

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262479)
sarcasm, i get it! yeah, you're right. each of those socialized programs you listed he supports, including the MILITARY, schools, highways, etc etc, are all bankrupt or bankrupting cartels that get to set their own budgets allowing rampant fraud and gross over payments for even the basic services. btw, that money never gets down to those who deserve it like the soldiers. instead it goes to lockheed martin and other fuckbags. please show me which one of those programs, if any, that has any REAL accountability over wasteful spending. which has objective oversite from any 3rd party ensuring that we dont get more halliburton bullshit contracts that fuck us out of billions? none you say? sure, every once in awhile someone gets caught with their pants down and resigns, gets indited, then disappears from public view with probation and a BOOK DEAL. OMG, boohoo. obama supports each of those programs and wants to add even more, health care, allowing each to grow larger and more intertwined into our infrastructure. do you honestly believe that we wouldnt get cheaper prices AND BETTER SERVICE if COMPETITION existed for any of these programs? any at all? COMPETITION!!!!! it lowers prices, saving us, the tax payers, MONEY. how many privately run businesses would be around if they employed the assholes who work at your local government run offices like the DMV. btw, you yourself said it. "Supports using $5 billion dollars in vouchers to pay for kids to go to private schools." why send kids to PRIVATE SCHOOL if SOCIALIZED is better? its not, which is why people are now demanding a way out of the public school system and into a PRIVATE SCHOOL. PRIVATE IS BETTER. and if private is better why not adopt that model to better educate the kids who dont get the choice of going to a private school? it'll never happen because unions cant exist in a free market. unions control many sheep. bahhhh to you motherfucker :thumbsup

ps, i really dont care about any of this. im just bored and a little high

"Dont forget to bring a towl"

I'm not arguing any of those points with you. I just found it funny you parroted a talking point without realizing McCain supports just as much socialized stuff as Obama. In fact, Republicans spend more of your money on shit than Democrats do.

They're both socialists, this whole country is to an extent. Without it we'd be a third world country. It's just a matter of what they spend it on that people disagree about.

bringer 06-01-2008 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262503)
I'm not arguing any of those points with you. I just found it funny you parroted a talking point without realizing McCain supports just as much socialized stuff as Obama. In fact, Republicans spend more of your money on shit than Democrats do.

They're both socialists, this whole country is to an extent. Without it we'd be a third world country. It's just a matter of what they spend it on that people disagree about.

i parroted no talking point. i stated a fact which once you get past that line you yourself admit to. and when did i say i was supporting mccain? or since thats my only other real choice you just ASSUMED it was mine? both parties have and will continue to spend your money and mine without any accountability because we live in a society of narcissistic twats who care more about britney and kevin then iraq or new orleans. im looking for a candidate who wants to eliminate social programs, not add to the list. since none match that bill im going to write in "None of the Above" or w/e spacing i need to if they only accept first/last. fuck this stupid system and the people who bask in their ignorance until something is taken from them.

GregE 06-01-2008 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262344)
...Obama isn't as big a danger to my business as McCain is. McCain has been a HUGE proponent in trying to pass anti-porn, anti-social networking legislation. He's against net neutrality. Those are issues that are important to my business, not whether Obama has a mean, racist pastor.

This alone is all the reason I need to vote for the man.


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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14262344)
Plus I'm just tired of the backwards social agenda of Republicans. I was a Republican primarily for fiscal reasons, but they don't even stand for that anymore. They're more worried about gay marriage, flag burning, and getting creationism taught in schools. I'm tired of our country being the fucking laughing stock of Western society when it comes to these issues. I'm tired of actual science like evolution being put on trial by retards. I'm tired of this push to put judges on the courts that would send social issues back 50 years.

Well... this is pretty damn good reason as well.

pocketkangaroo 06-01-2008 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer (Post 14262511)
i parroted no talking point. i stated a fact which once you get past that line you yourself admit to. and when did i say i was supporting mccain? or since thats my only other real choice you just ASSUMED it was mine? both parties have and will continue to spend your money and mine without any accountability because we live in a society of narcissistic twats who care more about britney and kevin then iraq or new orleans. im looking for a candidate who wants to eliminate social programs, not add to the list. since none match that bill im going to write in "None of the Above" or w/e spacing i need to if they only accept first/last. fuck this stupid system and the people who bask in their ignorance until something is taken from them.

I agree with you man. I'm a libertarian leaning guy. I don't think voting "None of the Above" does anything. I think you'd be better off voting for Bob Barr.


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