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  • Marky333
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    • Jun 2006
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    #1

    Are the tube sites going to be the next money making system?

    Sure seems that way - blogs gonna stop to be so popular in the near future and everyone will start a tube site ... frankly I'm thinkin' to make one myself lol
    What do you think?
  • halfpint
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    #2
    No they dont make money..its just a faze

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    • After Shock Media
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      #3
      Originally posted by Marky333
      Sure seems that way - blogs gonna stop to be so popular in the near future and everyone will start a tube site ... frankly I'm thinkin' to make one myself lol
      What do you think?
      Actual blogs and not splogs will always remain profitable and work well. Most just do not run actual blogs so it will indeed be nice when they are gone.

      Originally posted by halfpint
      No they dont make money..its just a faze
      You sure it is just a phase and they make no money?

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      • Sosa
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        • Oct 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by halfpint
        No they dont make money..its just a faze
        yeah I second that

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        • Marky333
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          #5
          Originally posted by halfpint
          No they dont make money..its just a faze
          Well, as long as they have visitors they can make money. visitors = power!

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          • garce
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            • Oct 2001
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            #6
            Doesn't matter to me whether its a blog, tube, tgp or whatever. Its just another CMS. It all depends on what you can do with it.

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            • kane
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              • Aug 2001
              • 20684

              #7
              I think there will be tubes for the foreseeable future, however I think some of them will be changing. I think we will see the downfall/decline of the tubes that have the 20 minute movies on them and all the illegal content. When you give that much away for free it is next to impossible to actually sell a membership. I think giving all that away for free really limits what type of advertising you can have on the site and eventually that advertising stagnates so your already slim profits decline even more and force you to start curbing your expenses like bandwidth. I think those sites will then either have to change become a tube that offers much smaller clips or they will just go out of business. If there were all super profitable then why are most (if not all) of the big tubes up for sale and actively looking for buyers? And why is nobody buying them?

              I think blogs will be around for a long time because I think the primary reason for them is as search engine food and that traffic is typically pretty good. I would take 1,000 target search engine hits over 50,000 tube hits any day.

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              • BradM
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                • Dec 2003
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                #8
                You already missed the boat.

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                • stev0
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                  #9
                  Tube sites seem really stupid to me, they're movie galleries without a design and less targeted advertising.

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                  • tiger
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                    • Apr 2002
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                    #10
                    Yes that is where all the money is. Spend a million to give away free porn. It's a solid business model.

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                    • Marky333
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tiger
                      Yes that is where all the money is. Spend a million to give away free porn. It's a solid business model.
                      Why spend a million? You can start a tube site in under 500$ easily ...

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                      • krystalinx
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                        • May 2008
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                        #12
                        Some says it is, but for me it depends.

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                        • fris
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                          #13
                          making money online is so 90s
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                          • TidalWave
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                            #14
                            tube sites are lame now
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                            • tony299
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                              #15
                              I can see them becoming the mgp's of the future.

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                              • Defiance Inc
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                                #16
                                If anything they'll be scaled back and have membership. Bandwidth ain't free..
                                Youtube has still to make a profit.... news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932778-7.html

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                                • xentech
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by halfpint
                                  No they dont make money..its just a faze
                                  how can they not make money, a site like redtube.com with that ammount of visitors with AFF and cam ad's is blatantly going to pull alot of sales
                                  Last edited by xentech; 05-30-2008, 05:53 PM.

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                                  • RegUser
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Marky333
                                    Why spend a million? You can start a tube site in under 500$ easily ...
                                    five hundred???????????????????????????
                                    what planet are you guys from seriously????????????????????
                                    Scripts are being sold for $12.50

                                    what bloody five hundred
                                    and they guys making these sites are simply trying to make 10 bucks a day from visitors not thousands

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                                    • xentech
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Defiance Inc
                                      If anything they'll be scaled back and have membership. Bandwidth ain't free..
                                      Youtube has still to make a profit.... news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932778-7.html
                                      youtube isn't plastered with AFF and webcam ad's

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                                      • needlive
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Marky333
                                        Well, as long as they have visitors they can make money. visitors = power!
                                        Maybe if a banner is put on the site in a totally different niche.

                                        Dating, maybe. Or cams, I don't know. But no one will buy video content if you give away lots of trailers for free.

                                        Not to mention the tube site with 10 mins + vids on them.

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                                        • Sebring Studios
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Defiance Inc
                                          If anything they'll be scaled back and have membership. Bandwidth ain't free..
                                          Youtube has still to make a profit.... news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932778-7.html
                                          I cannot understand how the hell Youtube makes money. I've read where their bandwidth bill is over a million $$$ per month. Where does the money come from?

                                          I must be missing something somewhere here.
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                                          • xentech
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sebring Studios
                                            I cannot understand how the hell Youtube makes money. I've read where their bandwidth bill is over a million $$$ per month. Where does the money come from?

                                            I must be missing something somewhere here.
                                            Google own YouTube, and it is willing to lose alot of money on bandwidth to maintain numero uno! Long live Google....

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                                            • Sebring Studios
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by xentech
                                              Google own YouTube, and it is willing to lose alot of money on bandwidth to maintain numero uno! Long live Google....
                                              Now I get it. Thanks.
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                                              • Defiance Inc
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by xentech
                                                youtube isn't plastered with AFF and webcam ad's

                                                Right, but they are mainstream and THE leader in video distribution.
                                                The AFF and webcam affiliates most likely have similar conversion ratios as any other site. With that, their margins would be slimmer (bandwidth costs), unless, like I said they go with a pay per play model. Or, let other sites post their content as affiliates.
                                                But as for free movies with AFF or webcams as the only income stream... I just don't see the pay out until bandwidth costs drop. Then you have the litigation from copyright claims(illegal tubes)..
                                                I may be wrong, but I'd have to see the numbers to believe they are making a killing.

                                                Ya, they're here to stay, but I don't think they're are the end all be all.

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                                                • gadabout
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                                                  #25
                                                  splogs and blogs will live on as long as they get search engine traffic
                                                  I can be in profit with splogs with a penny or less a day each.
                                                  Tube sites run on bookmarkers who are looking for free content. That can't be as profitable as someone searching you out with the normal ways of monetization.

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                                                  • Marky333
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by xentech
                                                    Google own YouTube, and it is willing to lose alot of money on bandwidth to maintain numero uno! Long live Google....
                                                    Pretty soon Google will have monopol on all website based things - that's not a good thing ... they go into every domain ... A couple of days back I saw they offer Credit Card merchant accounts lol ... wtf they have too much power if you ask me ... :/

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                                                    • fuzebox
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                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Tube sites don't generate traffic on their own.

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                                                      • SayWhut
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Marky333
                                                        Pretty soon Google will have monopol on all website based things - that's not a good thing ... they go into every domain ... A couple of days back I saw they offer Credit Card merchant accounts lol ... wtf they have too much power if you ask me ... :/

                                                        Too much power? They provide a quality service that I have no complaints over ...

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                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                          • Jun 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by garce
                                                          Doesn't matter to me whether its a blog, tube, tgp or whatever. Its just another CMS. It all depends on what you can do with it.
                                                          Fucking ace. Spot on.

                                                          Even if you have traffic, if it costs more than it makes you lose money. Getting a Tube site to make money is tough unless you can sit it on a good server which costs very little.

                                                          The future is giving the customer more reasons to sign up other than he HAS to pay. Because he clearly does not have to.

                                                          how can they not make money, a site like Redtube with that amount of visitors with AFF and cam ad's is blatantly going to pull alot of sales
                                                          Sorry but not a bright post.

                                                          How do you know they make money?
                                                          Are they sitting on a server that costs little to nothing because of the link to AFF and others?
                                                          Because they make money, if they do, how does that relate to it being the future?

                                                          So many people in this business are totally clueless. They think it's about traffic, system or niche. It's about none of them. It's about delivering something the buyer wants at a price the buyer is willing to pay.

                                                          Thankfully few get it.



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                                                          • Electric Lights
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                                                            #30
                                                            There is no money in tube sites.

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                                                            • kenny
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                                                              #31
                                                              Tube sites will be the next money making system for Plaintiffs
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                                                              • naughty1
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                                                                #32
                                                                If you think Redtube and Youporn and the rest aren't making A FUCKLOAD of money you are highly mistaken
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                                                                • Zorgman
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Wake up people. Tubes are here to stay and it's replacing the mgp's.
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                                                                  • Antonio
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Marky333
                                                                    Why spend a million? You can start a tube site in under 500$ easily ...
                                                                    make that $60, $40 script + domain + virtual + embed from sponsors or other leagl tubes = one good legal tube

                                                                    then create 200 fake tubes and start trading traffic n shit


                                                                    tubes are still at their beginning IMO, how many BIG niche tubes are out there? now is the time, create a shemale tube and Google will send you thousands of visitors, make ebony tube - same story....
                                                                    Last edited by Antonio; 05-31-2008, 05:20 AM.

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                                                                    • Konda
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by needlive
                                                                      Maybe if a banner is put on the site in a totally different niche.

                                                                      Dating, maybe. Or cams, I don't know. But no one will buy video content if you give away lots of trailers for free.

                                                                      Not to mention the tube site with 10 mins + vids on them.
                                                                      You are wrong. I know for a fact that tube sites can bring in sales to paysites. Even if the tube site is filled with tons of long movies. From experience I know that a 5-10 minute trailer for a paysite with banners around the video to the paysite can still bring in decent sales to that paysite.
                                                                      Maybe the ratios are crap compared to other traffic (1:2000 instead of 1:200), but since the tube sites have so much traffic, it still brings in lots of sales.

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                                                                      • SoloGirlsContent
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 5013

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Marky333
                                                                        Sure seems that way - blogs gonna stop to be so popular in the near future and everyone will start a tube site ... frankly I'm thinkin' to make one myself lol
                                                                        What do you think?
                                                                        I think you're about 6 months to late for the question. Tubes are already taking over

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                                                                        • starpimps
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          web 3.1 is the next money making system
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                                                                          • The Judge
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            tubes are the shit - they are killing paysites - in the near future its either do tube or die

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                                                                            • xentech
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                              Fucking ace. Spot on.

                                                                              Even if you have traffic, if it costs more than it makes you lose money. Getting a Tube site to make money is tough unless you can sit it on a good server which costs very little.

                                                                              The future is giving the customer more reasons to sign up other than he HAS to pay. Because he clearly does not have to.

                                                                              Sorry but not a bright post.

                                                                              How do you know they make money?
                                                                              Are they sitting on a server that costs little to nothing because of the link to AFF and others?
                                                                              Because they make money, if they do, how does that relate to it being the future?

                                                                              So many people in this business are totally clueless. They think it's about traffic, system or niche. It's about none of them. It's about delivering something the buyer wants at a price the buyer is willing to pay.

                                                                              Thankfully few get it.
                                                                              I'm not saying that they make bucket-loads of money, but what I am saying is that dating ad's and cam ad's are only going to convert a bit worse then they would being generally advertised on any un-targetted site and with that ammount of traffic being pushed to sponsors I can't see how they wouldn't cover bandwidth costs...

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                                                                              • pr0
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                they already are....as a simple answer

                                                                                some people are making them totally unsustainable

                                                                                these people are simply making to look a buck on the turn-around sale based on their traffic rank solely

                                                                                but most tubes are turning a nice profit already

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                                                                                • Marky333
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by starpimps
                                                                                  web 3.1 is the next money making system
                                                                                  what's web 3.1?

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                                                                                  • Voodoo
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Not all "Traffic" is created equal.

                                                                                    Traffic for Traffic's sake is a fools pursuit.

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                                                                                    • kane
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by xentech
                                                                                      I'm not saying that they make bucket-loads of money, but what I am saying is that dating ad's and cam ad's are only going to convert a bit worse then they would being generally advertised on any un-targetted site and with that ammount of traffic being pushed to sponsors I can't see how they wouldn't cover bandwidth costs...
                                                                                      It seems to me though that these types of ads will eventually stagnate. On the tubes that are giving away huge 20+ minute long clips it has to be very hard fro them to sell memberships to regular sites so instead they sell dating and cams. That is all fine and good but many of their visitors are bookmarks who will quickly become immune to seeing the dating and cam ads and their effectiviness will be reduced. If you stop making money with those, a tube no has very limited options for income.

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                                                                                      • DWB
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I think the current tube model is going to be limited. How can giving away so much make you money? Why would I join a pay site when I can watch full 20 minute videos on your site for free?

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                                                                                        • Marky333
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I sustain my point of view : "visitors=power"... if there's a bit of quality too. :P

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                                                                                          • halfpint
                                                                                            GFY's Halfpint
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Tube sites are like car boot sales lots of people who want something for nothing or a good bargain .... There is one sponsor which is doing 1:126 so far(which kinda suprised me) on a tube with a small amount of traffic and I aint gonna say who they are because all of you bastards will put it on your tubes....clue ..not dating or webcams

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                                                                                            • halfpint
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                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              • aico
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                ya, cuz giving shit away for free has worked out so well for this industry.

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                                                                                                • potter
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  there's no money in porn

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                                                                                                  • Tuga
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by potter
                                                                                                    there's no money in porn
                                                                                                    So true!

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