Sure seems that way - blogs gonna stop to be so popular in the near future and everyone will start a tube site ... frankly I'm thinkin' to make one myself lol
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Actual blogs and not splogs will always remain profitable and work well. Most just do not run actual blogs so it will indeed be nice when they are gone.
You sure it is just a phase and they make no money?Comment
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Doesn't matter to me whether its a blog, tube, tgp or whatever. Its just another CMS. It all depends on what you can do with it.Comment
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I think there will be tubes for the foreseeable future, however I think some of them will be changing. I think we will see the downfall/decline of the tubes that have the 20 minute movies on them and all the illegal content. When you give that much away for free it is next to impossible to actually sell a membership. I think giving all that away for free really limits what type of advertising you can have on the site and eventually that advertising stagnates so your already slim profits decline even more and force you to start curbing your expenses like bandwidth. I think those sites will then either have to change become a tube that offers much smaller clips or they will just go out of business. If there were all super profitable then why are most (if not all) of the big tubes up for sale and actively looking for buyers? And why is nobody buying them?
I think blogs will be around for a long time because I think the primary reason for them is as search engine food and that traffic is typically pretty good. I would take 1,000 target search engine hits over 50,000 tube hits any day.Comment
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You already missed the boat.Comment
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Tube sites seem really stupid to me, they're movie galleries without a design and less targeted advertising.Comment
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Yes that is where all the money is. Spend a million to give away free porn. It's a solid business model.
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Some says it is, but for me it depends.Comment
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making money online is so 90sSince 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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I can see them becoming the mgp's of the future.Comment
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If anything they'll be scaled back and have membership. Bandwidth ain't free..
Youtube has still to make a profit.... news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932778-7.html
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Google own YouTube, and it is willing to lose alot of money on bandwidth to maintain numero uno!
Long live Google....
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Right, but they are mainstream and THE leader in video distribution.
The AFF and webcam affiliates most likely have similar conversion ratios as any other site. With that, their margins would be slimmer (bandwidth costs), unless, like I said they go with a pay per play model. Or, let other sites post their content as affiliates.
But as for free movies with AFF or webcams as the only income stream... I just don't see the pay out until bandwidth costs drop. Then you have the litigation from copyright claims(illegal tubes)..
I may be wrong, but I'd have to see the numbers to believe they are making a killing.
Ya, they're here to stay, but I don't think they're are the end all be all.Comment
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splogs and blogs will live on as long as they get search engine traffic
I can be in profit with splogs with a penny or less a day each.
Tube sites run on bookmarkers who are looking for free content. That can't be as profitable as someone searching you out with the normal ways of monetization.Comment
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Pretty soon Google will have monopol on all website based things - that's not a good thing ... they go into every domain ... A couple of days back I saw they offer Credit Card merchant accounts lol ... wtf they have too much power if you ask me ... :/Comment
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Tube sites don't generate traffic on their own.Comment
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Fucking ace. Spot on.
Even if you have traffic, if it costs more than it makes you lose money. Getting a Tube site to make money is tough unless you can sit it on a good server which costs very little.
The future is giving the customer more reasons to sign up other than he HAS to pay. Because he clearly does not have to.
Sorry but not a bright post.how can they not make money, a site like Redtube with that amount of visitors with AFF and cam ad's is blatantly going to pull alot of sales
How do you know they make money?
Are they sitting on a server that costs little to nothing because of the link to AFF and others?
Because they make money, if they do, how does that relate to it being the future?
So many people in this business are totally clueless. They think it's about traffic, system or niche. It's about none of them. It's about delivering something the buyer wants at a price the buyer is willing to pay.
Thankfully few get it.Comment
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There is no money in tube sites.
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Tube sites will be the next money making system for Plaintiffs
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If you think Redtube and Youporn and the rest aren't making A FUCKLOAD of money you are highly mistakenComment
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Wake up people. Tubes are here to stay and it's replacing the mgp's.---Comment
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make that $60, $40 script + domain + virtual + embed from sponsors or other leagl tubes = one good legal tube
then create 200 fake tubes and start trading traffic n shit
tubes are still at their beginning IMO, how many BIG niche tubes are out there? now is the time, create a shemale tube and Google will send you thousands of visitors, make ebony tube - same story....Last edited by Antonio; 05-31-2008, 05:20 AM.Comment
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You are wrong. I know for a fact that tube sites can bring in sales to paysites. Even if the tube site is filled with tons of long movies. From experience I know that a 5-10 minute trailer for a paysite with banners around the video to the paysite can still bring in decent sales to that paysite.
Maybe the ratios are crap compared to other traffic (1:2000 instead of 1:200), but since the tube sites have so much traffic, it still brings in lots of sales.Comment
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tubes are the shit - they are killing paysites - in the near future its either do tube or die
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I'm not saying that they make bucket-loads of money, but what I am saying is that dating ad's and cam ad's are only going to convert a bit worse then they would being generally advertised on any un-targetted site and with that ammount of traffic being pushed to sponsors I can't see how they wouldn't cover bandwidth costs...Fucking ace. Spot on.
Even if you have traffic, if it costs more than it makes you lose money. Getting a Tube site to make money is tough unless you can sit it on a good server which costs very little.
The future is giving the customer more reasons to sign up other than he HAS to pay. Because he clearly does not have to.
Sorry but not a bright post.
How do you know they make money?
Are they sitting on a server that costs little to nothing because of the link to AFF and others?
Because they make money, if they do, how does that relate to it being the future?
So many people in this business are totally clueless. They think it's about traffic, system or niche. It's about none of them. It's about delivering something the buyer wants at a price the buyer is willing to pay.
Thankfully few get it.Comment
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they already are....as a simple answer
some people are making them totally unsustainable
these people are simply making to look a buck on the turn-around sale based on their traffic rank solely
but most tubes are turning a nice profit already
if you're looking for a full scale custom tube solution...feel free to hit me upComment
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Not all "Traffic" is created equal.
Traffic for Traffic's sake is a fools pursuit.
Imagine a drunk blind man... playing golf.
"I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."
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It seems to me though that these types of ads will eventually stagnate. On the tubes that are giving away huge 20+ minute long clips it has to be very hard fro them to sell memberships to regular sites so instead they sell dating and cams. That is all fine and good but many of their visitors are bookmarks who will quickly become immune to seeing the dating and cam ads and their effectiviness will be reduced. If you stop making money with those, a tube no has very limited options for income.Comment
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I think the current tube model is going to be limited. How can giving away so much make you money? Why would I join a pay site when I can watch full 20 minute videos on your site for free?Comment
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I sustain my point of view : "visitors=power"... if there's a bit of quality too. :PComment
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Tube sites are like car boot sales lots of people who want something for nothing or a good bargain .... There is one sponsor which is doing 1:126 so far(which kinda suprised me) on a tube with a small amount of traffic and I aint gonna say who they are because all of you bastards will put it on your tubes....clue ..not dating or webcamsComment
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ya, cuz giving shit away for free has worked out so well for this industry.Comment
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there's no money in porn
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