Apple?s market share of PCs over $1,000 hits 66%

[brandonstills]

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...-1000-hits-66/

Not that stats can be trusted but this seemed a bit surprising if it is indeed true.

I suppose though, as far as porn goes, Mac is a lot more popular than the stats of PC sales. A huge percentage of computers are bought for businesses and they are almost all PC. Very little porn traffic comes from work computers. It would be interesting to know the % of computers between home/personal and work.

[MichaelP]

Once you try Mac you can't go back !

[brandonstills]

I use VMWare Fusion and dual boot when I need the extra performance. Best of both worlds.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I'd say that's because most entry computers are about $700 after getting fucked at the local Circuit City for the less-techy folks. Shit, I haven't paid $1000 except for building my machines by hand in years.. except when Mac.

[SayWhut]

Windows is for n00bs.

[Libertine]

The stats can be trusted, but note that this is only retail. So it excludes competition like Dell and such.

Basically, the stats say Apple dominates the market when it comes to high-end store-bought computers. That's not really a shocker.

[stickyfingerz]

Umm ya cause Mac sells a 300.00 computer for 1000.00 and you mac guys but it up like strawberry icecream on a hot summer day duh.. Mac market share is under 15% tops.

Now riddle me this. A company that has been in business since well before Microsoft was doesn't even have 20% of the market.

[psili]

Serious Question: If / When Apple 'puters dominate the market, what will be left for Apple fan boys to jerk to / talk about to make them feel special?

[Godsmack]

Serious Question: If / When Apple 'puters dominate the market, what will be left for Apple fan boys to jerk to / talk about to make them feel special?

good question lol!! but i guess their job has been successfully completed!
Mac OSX deserves to be big..

[GatorB]

Serious Question: If / When Apple 'puters dominate the market, what will be left for Apple fan boys to jerk to / talk about to make them feel special?

Then hackers will making Apple viruses en masse and everyone will see the "Apple's can't get viruses" myth get utterly destroyed. And will laugh laugh luagh

[GatorB]

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...-1000-hits-66/

Not that stats can be trusted but this seemed a bit surprising if it is indeed true.

Sure it's true. Because you can actually get a PC for under $1000.

[aico]

That's because Apple is the best computer for surfing porn.

[MediumPimpin]

Once you try Mac you can't go back !

I tried a Mac and went back

[Slick]

Now riddle me this. A company that has been in business since well before Microsoft was doesn't even have 20% of the market.

That's a good point.

[stickyfingerz]

That's a good point.

Well you know its obviously cause most people dont "get" the mac ideal. They are only sold to the smartest people and THAT is why the market share is small. Only stupid people buy anything but a proprietary cant find software cant find games Mac.. FEEL THE APPLE!! WOOT!! Apple elite yo!

ALL the Mac commercials say its true.... so you know.. it must be.

I talked to a guy last night and a mac commercial came on tv. So I asked him "are you a mac guy, or a pc guy" And he hung his head like he had to be ashamed and said *sigh* PC.. So Im like why are you ashamed of that? He is like "Hmm I dunno" And Im like, so do you have a hard time with your PC? and he is like "Well no.." So Im like .. umm so why are you ashamed? We determined its from their advertising filled with Bs that assults everyone 24/7. He loves his PC, yet was ashamed. Shakes head....

[aico]

Well you know its obviously cause most people dont "get" the mac ideal. They are only sold to the smartest people and THAT is why the market share is small. Only stupid people buy anything but a proprietary cant find software cant find games Mac.. FEEL THE APPLE!! WOOT!! Apple elite yo!

ALL the Mac commercials say its true.... so you know.. it must be.

I talked to a guy last night and a mac commercial came on tv. So I asked him "are you a mac guy, or a pc guy" And he hung his head like he had to be ashamed and said *sigh* PC.. So Im like why are you ashamed of that? He is like "Hmm I dunno" And Im like, so do you have a hard time with your PC? and he is like "Well no.." So Im like .. umm so why are you ashamed? We determined its from their advertising filled with Bs that assults everyone 24/7. He loves his PC, yet was ashamed. Shakes head....

Ya, I am sure it has nothing to do with only one company creating a computer vs. thousands creating a computer, idiot, go back to math class.

[GatorB]

That's a good point.

As much as Macheads hate MS the one person most responsible for MS's "monopoly" is Steve Jobs.

Back in the 80s Steve thought his OS was better. maybe it was maybe not not important. The thing is he COULD have made his OS available to ALL computer companies like MS did. he though that since his OS was better, by keeping it exclusive to Apple he'd sell more Apple's because people though that more highly of his OS. You'd think after 25 years later he'd learned that this is not the case. Had he really been smart not only would his OS be a MUCH higher % of the market MS might not even be around or perhaps it may have led to MS not being so complacent and build a better product. If Jobs is REALLY concerned about consumers having the BEST products he wouldn't make them so proprietary.

As an aside IBM was also as stupid as Jobs as they hired Gates to write the OS for IBM computers. They thought everyone would buy IBMs no matter what because of the name and the OS didn't really matter so they let Gates have the rights to the OS to sell to whomever he wanted. They failed to realize if companies A, B and C computers had the same OS as an IBM and they were cheaper, people would start buying computers from companies A, B and C instead of IBM.

[GatorB]

Ya, I am sure it has nothing to do with only one company creating a computer vs. thousands creating a computer, idiot, go back to math class.

speak english motherfucker!

[farkedup]

Not only the whole $300 computer being sold for $1k idea but how about this one... Most of us PC users who want computers that would cost above $1k simply build them ourselves!

Mac users tend to not be so "technical" while they're high in image and graphic related skills. Most of these same people also have the disposable income to not bother building and tuning their computers. that said... I don't see a point in putting much over $600 into hardware.

$200 for E8400 or Q6600
$200 just bought me 2*640Gb WD drives which will be RAID
$50 Power supply
$100 just bought me 4Gb RAM
$50 video card (lower end Radeon HD card since I don't play games)
$90 Gigabyte board
lets alot $20 for a DVD drive and $30 for a case

like $740 and I have a badass computer. Stack on a $300 monitor and I have a computer thats GREAT at all things but gaming. Up that $50 video card to $150 or more and you can play plenty of games. Not to mention plenty of nice monitors around $200.

Unless you're crazy I don't even see how its possible to spend much over $1k on a COMPLETE system. Obviously going dual monitor or massive monitors you can spend $600 or more on monitors alone...

[stickyfingerz]

Ya, I am sure it has nothing to do with only one company creating a computer vs. thousands creating a computer, idiot, go back to math class.

So you are saying their biz model was flawed from the beginning? We are in agreement. Good stuff.

What does that have to do with math? Like the math it takes to add up that Bill Gates is richer due to using a business plan that allowed him to cover more of the market, and having those thousands of companies paying him licensing rights to use his OS while not having to deal with the manufacture of actual computers, and allowing other business to make a shit load of money due to his business plan, and just flat out dominating the market? You mean that math? Oh.. sorry that doesnt fit into the Apple fanboy handbook.. My bad.

[iMind]

Apple's on the move.
an entire generation of kids is growing up on OSX, Yes I know we grew up on apple too... but they're not gonna drop the ball this time, SJ has it locked.

I'd say that 60% of the people I talk to about computers WANT a mac, they're just disillusioned about the costs, once you let them know they can get one for like $700 they're all over it.

Anyone ever notice any thread about Apple, stinkyfinger is in here pissing and moaning like crazy, calling people stupid and names and shit? And people say that apple fan boys cause trouble

[stickyfingerz]

Apple's on the move.
an entire generation of kids is growing up on OSX, Yes I know we grew up on apple too... but they're not gonna drop the ball this time, SJ has it locked.

I'd say that 60% of the people I talk to about computers WANT a mac, they're just disillusioned about the costs, once you let them know they can get one for like $700 they're all over it.

Anyone ever notice any thread about Apple, stinkyfinger is in here pissing and moaning like crazy, calling people stupid and names and shit? And people say that apple fan boys cause trouble

Calling names? REALLY? As usual Mac users reading comprehension is lacking. Oops there that was kind of calling you stupid, but Other than this post replying to yours (in which you accuse me of pissing and moaning and calling peoples names. None of which I did. I simply stated observations that most non mac fans would point out to the MacEducated.) Btw PLEASE quote me and show me where in this thread I either pissed, or moaned or called someone a name lol. What generation uses only OSX? This just gets better and better. lol

[pornguy]

MAC sells a lot to schools. They are dummy proof.

[GatorB]

Apple's on the move.
an entire generation of kids is growing up on OSX, Yes I know we grew up on apple too... but they're not gonna drop the ball this time, SJ has it locked.

As long as he insists on his proprietary ways he will fail. You know OSX may be beter than windows I may actually be interested in trying oS I'm not bying an Apple to do it. Offer it to me as a stand alone product. make SOME money from me is better than NONE isn't it? Jobs needs to understand ther ar some of us that that will NEVER NEVER NEVER buy a Mac.

I'd say that 60% of the people I talk to about computers WANT a mac,

Over 60 million retards voted for GW Busg in 2004. Crappy reality shows are the top TV shows watched.

they're just disillusioned about the costs, once you let them know they can get one for like $700 they're all over it.

For $700 you're going to get a gimped POS. At least with a $400 POS PC I can upgrade it. And a $700 PC is a better machine than a $700 Mac.

Anyone ever notice any thread about Apple, stinkyfinger is in here pissing and moaning like crazy, calling people stupid and names and shit? And people say that apple fan boys cause trouble

I don't like sticky, I think he's POS, but the fact is Apple cultists are arrogant fucktards that think they're better than everyone else and have nothing better to do with their miserable lame lives than try to get everyone to drink the Apple flavored kool-aid.

Personally I don't give a rats ass if you use an Mac or a PC it's your money if you wish to waste it. In fact if there was a way to care less than to not care at all that's how little I would care that you like Macs. As with Chirstians I don't care if you believe in God just stop trying to shove him down my throat just because I'm not on your team. Same thing goes with Apple lovers.

Most annoying fanbois in no particular order

Apple
Linux
FireFox
XBOX 360

[GatorB]

MAC sells a lot to schools. They are dummy proof.

Maybe that's why I like PCs. Because I'm not retarded.

Mac so easy a caveman can use it

[iMind]

Only stupid people buy Mac..

Walk into a school lately?
I have, and all you see is imacs ;)

Apple also just won a huge educational bid in the states and will be in even more schools than they are now, and how many universities and colleges are handing out Apple laptops to students?
Look into it and you'll see where I'm going,
The next generation will not be windows dominated, I like windows and see it's value, but it will not be the majority as it is now for long.

[farkedup]

I think its because of all the people buying those HUGE monitors, by time you get a 24" or bigger monitor with you're mac you're most of the way to $1k... they have some seriously badass monitors but so are those dell ultrasharps.

People who buy macs care more about a quality display. equip them the same and the PC user will be happy with the $200 22" monitor. The mac guy most likely is willing to spend $600 on the MONITOR.

[GatorB]

Walk into a school lately?
I have, and all you see is imacs ;)

ever take a look at the miserable state of american schools? 40th in education worldwide.

Apple also just won a huge educational bid in the states

which states. schools in the US are run on the local level.

and will be in even more schools than they are now,

schools are facing budget woes. Do you really think theya re going to Apple over cheaper PCs?

and how many universities and colleges are handing out Apple laptops to students?

Most require laptops, very few hand them out. The student has to buy it himself. In 5 years when my son goes off to college I will get him a laptop it will NOT be a Mac.

[aico]

So you are saying their biz model was flawed from the beginning? We are in agreement. Good stuff.

What does that have to do with math? Like the math it takes to add up that Bill Gates is richer due to using a business plan that allowed him to cover more of the market, and having those thousands of companies paying him licensing rights to use his OS while not having to deal with the manufacture of actual computers, and allowing other business to make a shit load of money due to his business plan, and just flat out dominating the market? You mean that math? Oh.. sorry that doesnt fit into the Apple fanboy handbook.. My bad.

Last time I checked, Microsoft didn't make computers. Again, your math is flawed, one company making one computer that uses one OS, vs. a company that makes an OS used on computers made by thousands of companies.

You are actually as dumb as you seem, at least you have that going for you.

It must be rough being so insecure about yourself, that you get upset about what type of computer someone uses. But, I can't blame you, if I were you, I'd be pretty fucking insecure too, being the lying, thieving, scammer that you are.

[spanky part 2]

It's not so much the computer as the OS. MS is a pile of shit OS. Eventually you are gonna be able to run OS X on any computer, just watch.

Funny thing is I just loaded XP on my mac and it crashes all the time. OSX has never crashed any of my computers.

[stickyfingerz]

I think its because of all the people buying those HUGE monitors, by time you get a 24" or bigger monitor with you're mac you're most of the way to $1k... they have some seriously badass monitors but so are those dell ultrasharps.

People who buy macs care more about a quality display. equip them the same and the PC user will be happy with the $200 22" monitor. The mac guy most likely is willing to spend $600 on the MONITOR.

Hiqh quality display, low response times though. At least the specs Ive seen on them that is.

[GatorB]

Last time I checked, Microsoft didn't make computers. Again, your math is flawed, one company making one computer that uses one OS, vs. a company that makes an OS used on computers made by thousands of companies.

Whose fault is it that OSX can only be used on ONE computer? god you're retarded.

[stickyfingerz]

Last time I checked, Microsoft didn't make computers. Again, your math is flawed, one company making one computer that uses one OS, vs. a company that makes an OS used on computers made by thousands of companies.

You are actually as dumb as you seem, at least you have that going for you.

It must be rough being so insecure about yourself, that you get upset about what type of computer someone uses. But, I can't blame you, if I were you, I'd be pretty fucking insecure too, being the lying, thieving, scammer that you are.

You aren't getting it are you? Microsoft made their billions DUE TO the fact they dont build computers. They started out leasing Dos to IBM when they DIDNT EVEN OWN the software yet. Thats called smart. Or should they have made their own computers and stuck to a proprietary system and hope that some guy in Seattle that drinks coffee and smells his own farts would someday pick up the Microsoft proprietary torch and let the world know that even though they dont own even 20% of the marketshare its what the "cool" kids use...

Btw keep on with the accusations from a man that told you to fuck off. Seems like a great road to go down. You should know first hand the person that made the accusations is, or are you overlooking what you know first hand in order to make some jabs at me? Sounds like another character flaw is appearing beyond the Mac Fanboy thing. btw more, find one other person on the planet that has accused me of scamming them. Thats what I though.

[DixieDash]

I want a mac...


I could care less what I have really. As long as it does what I need it to do. I'm content with my PC.

[farkedup]

Hiqh quality display, low response times though. At least the specs Ive seen on them that is.

response time is an overrated spec. Gamers and shitty marketing tactics have made the posted response time for PC monitors drop like a rock. I'd believe the Dell and apple response times, brightness and other specs before I'd believe even Samsung's stats.

Even if the response times of the mac monitors aren't that great... when does response time matter THAT much... in games is really all. Ever play games on a mac? your desktop doesn't need 2ms...

[stickyfingerz]

response time is an overrated spec. Gamers and shitty marketing tactics have made the posted response time for PC monitors drop like a rock. I'd believe the Dell and apple response times, brightness and other specs before I'd believe even Samsung's stats.

Even if the response times of the mac monitors aren't that great... when does response time matter THAT much... in games is really all. Ever play games on a mac? your desktop doesn't need 2ms...

Think mine are 2ms but I am a gamer so ya I need it hehe.

[GatorB]

Think mine are 2ms but I am a gamer so ya I need it hehe.

The difference between 2 ms and 8 ms is nothing. The 6 ms difference is 15-20 times faster than blinking.

[stickyfingerz]

The difference between 2 ms and 8 ms is nothing. The 6 ms difference is 15-20 times faster than blinking.

Sure but Apple monitors are

Response time (typical)

* 16 ms

Im pretty certain the human eye can detect the diff between 16 and 2.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9...I1Njg#overview

[gornyhuy]

This thread is full of tired bullshit.

[GatorB]

Sure but Apple monitors are

Response time (typical)

* 16 ms

Im pretty certain the human eye can detect the diff between 16 and 2.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9...I1Njg#overview

I wasn't aware that the supposedly superior apple had monitors with technology from 2002.

[Matt 26z]

Windows is for n00bs.

It's funny you say that, because when I use a Mac I feel like my hands are tied.

[gleem]

here's what it comes down to people.

How much is your time worth?

Apple = 0 down time this year, 0 maintenance
PC = many many hours wasted loading programs to keep it working properly and reinstalling OS's, fucking with drivers, and countless other shit. And I am plenty experienced in both PC and mac.

sure my PC cost $1k less than my mac, but if I tack on what an hour of my time is worth to the cost of the PC, I could have bought a new car with the money I could have made in those hours over the last few years of it's life.

Of course I think you need both to get all the things you need done done.

I HOPE YOU PC PEOPLE STAY TO PC'S, cause yes, the bigger market share mac's get the sooner we'll get your hackers writing viruses. If they ever breach the 25% share mark, mac users are gonna get assfucked!

[gleem]

This is a good story from that fortune article posted in the comments, a typical PC bullshit problem I end up in about once a week.:

I work all day on a PC doing cad work in Rhino and on a mac doing graphics work making the catalog to sell what i make in Rhino. To day (for example) i had to print a manual in pdf form from the pc. to do that i had to go to HP and load the drivers a295 meg download. The first time i accidentally downloaded the 64 bit version which crashed my pc and required 3 restarts to clear. by the time i was done and printing 3 hours had slipped by to load the same printer on my mac i plug it in and it recognizes it picks a driver and starts to print 5 minutes later im done.


i put a ?premium? on my time and there is no savings with a 600 dollar win-tel box that does not get quickly eaten up in wasted time and i dare any win-tel user to tell me I?m wrong and they never spent the better part of a day installing some stupid hardware or new software.macs make you more productive because they just work?the value of that?Priceless?

[NETbilling]

Umm ya cause Mac sells a 300.00 computer for 1000.00 and you mac guys but it up like strawberry icecream on a hot summer day duh.. Mac market share is under 15% tops.

Now riddle me this. A company that has been in business since well before Microsoft was doesn't even have 20% of the market.

Less people own Ferrari than Toyota. Does that make Toyata better?

I will drive the Ferrari any day.

[brandonstills]

As much as Macheads hate MS the one person most responsible for MS's "monopoly" is Steve Jobs.

Back in the 80s Steve thought his OS was better. maybe it was maybe not not important. The thing is he COULD have made his OS available to ALL computer companies like MS did. he though that since his OS was better, by keeping it exclusive to Apple he'd sell more Apple's because people though that more highly of his OS. You'd think after 25 years later he'd learned that this is not the case. Had he really been smart not only would his OS be a MUCH higher % of the market MS might not even be around or perhaps it may have led to MS not being so complacent and build a better product. If Jobs is REALLY concerned about consumers having the BEST products he wouldn't make them so proprietary.

As an aside IBM was also as stupid as Jobs as they hired Gates to write the OS for IBM computers. They thought everyone would buy IBMs no matter what because of the name and the OS didn't really matter so they let Gates have the rights to the OS to sell to whomever he wanted. They failed to realize if companies A, B and C computers had the same OS as an IBM and they were cheaper, people would start buying computers from companies A, B and C instead of IBM.

They are repeating the exact same mistake with the iPhone. Sure the SDK is open but it doesn't mean shit because you can't actually put it on your own phone without their permission and you can only sell through them and they get to say if you can sell it.

[brandonstills]

Not only the whole $300 computer being sold for $1k idea but how about this one... Most of us PC users who want computers that would cost above $1k simply build them ourselves!

Mac users tend to not be so "technical" while they're high in image and graphic related skills. Most of these same people also have the disposable income to not bother building and tuning their computers. that said... I don't see a point in putting much over $600 into hardware.

$200 for E8400 or Q6600
$200 just bought me 2*640Gb WD drives which will be RAID
$50 Power supply
$100 just bought me 4Gb RAM
$50 video card (lower end Radeon HD card since I don't play games)
$90 Gigabyte board
lets alot $20 for a DVD drive and $30 for a case

like $740 and I have a badass computer. Stack on a $300 monitor and I have a computer thats GREAT at all things but gaming. Up that $50 video card to $150 or more and you can play plenty of games. Not to mention plenty of nice monitors around $200.

Unless you're crazy I don't even see how its possible to spend much over $1k on a COMPLETE system. Obviously going dual monitor or massive monitors you can spend $600 or more on monitors alone...

Macs suck for graphics. Photography work especially. I've used both and I use Mac all the time except to play games in Windows so if I say Mac sucks for graphics I think I know what I'm talking about.

That being said hackers and developers are moving to the Mac platform in droves.

[brandonstills]

MAC sells a lot to schools. They are dummy proof.

Dummy proof = not usable by experts

[stickyfingerz]

Walk into a school lately?
I have, and all you see is imacs ;)

Apple also just won a huge educational bid in the states and will be in even more schools than they are now, and how many universities and colleges are handing out Apple laptops to students?
Look into it and you'll see where I'm going,
The next generation will not be windows dominated, I like windows and see it's value, but it will not be the majority as it is now for long.

Nicely done with that quote btw, except that ISN'T what I said is it?

Well you know its obviously cause most people dont "get" the mac ideal. They are only sold to the smartest people and THAT is why the market share is small. Only stupid people buy anything but a proprietary cant find software cant find games Mac.. FEEL THE APPLE!! WOOT!! Apple elite yo!

Do you have to lie? Can you comprehend what I wrote yet?

[WarChild]

Here's what matters to me. I just picked one of my domains at random for this month.

Windows 23828124 91.1 %
Macintosh 1344867 5.1 %
Unknown 791332 3 %

[SayWhut]

It's funny you say that, because when I use a Mac I feel like my hands are tied.

You may have problems with your limp wrist.

I was speaking in terms of productivity .... what an OS is intended for.

But on the real, even Linux kicks the shit out of Windows. Ever tried installing Ubuntu? That thing works like a dream.