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05-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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Are the tube sites going to be the next money making system?
Sure seems that way - blogs gonna stop to be so popular in the near future and everyone will start a tube site ... frankly I'm thinkin' to make one myself lol
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05-30-2008, 12:50 PM
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No they dont make money..its just a faze
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05-30-2008, 12:53 PM
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05-30-2008, 12:54 PM
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05-30-2008, 01:00 PM
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Doesn't matter to me whether its a blog, tube, tgp or whatever. Its just another CMS. It all depends on what you can do with it.
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05-30-2008, 01:09 PM
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I think there will be tubes for the foreseeable future, however I think some of them will be changing. I think we will see the downfall/decline of the tubes that have the 20 minute movies on them and all the illegal content. When you give that much away for free it is next to impossible to actually sell a membership. I think giving all that away for free really limits what type of advertising you can have on the site and eventually that advertising stagnates so your already slim profits decline even more and force you to start curbing your expenses like bandwidth. I think those sites will then either have to change become a tube that offers much smaller clips or they will just go out of business. If there were all super profitable then why are most (if not all) of the big tubes up for sale and actively looking for buyers? And why is nobody buying them?
I think blogs will be around for a long time because I think the primary reason for them is as search engine food and that traffic is typically pretty good. I would take 1,000 target search engine hits over 50,000 tube hits any day. |
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05-30-2008, 01:09 PM
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You already missed the boat.
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05-30-2008, 01:41 PM
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Tube sites seem really stupid to me, they're movie galleries without a design and less targeted advertising.
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05-30-2008, 01:50 PM
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Yes that is where all the money is. Spend a million to give away free porn. It's a solid business model.
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05-30-2008, 02:24 PM
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05-30-2008, 02:56 PM
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Some says it is, but for me it depends.
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05-30-2008, 06:13 PM
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tube sites are lame now
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05-30-2008, 06:18 PM
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I can see them becoming the mgp's of the future.
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05-30-2008, 06:20 PM
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If anything they'll be scaled back and have membership. Bandwidth ain't free..
Youtube has still to make a profit.... news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932778-7.html |
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05-30-2008, 06:52 PM
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05-30-2008, 06:55 PM
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what planet are you guys from seriously???????????????????? Scripts are being sold for $12.50 what bloody five hundred and they guys making these sites are simply trying to make 10 bucks a day from visitors not thousands |
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05-30-2008, 06:57 PM
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05-30-2008, 06:58 PM
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Dating, maybe. Or cams, I don't know. But no one will buy video content if you give away lots of trailers for free. Not to mention the tube site with 10 mins + vids on them. |
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05-30-2008, 07:03 PM
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05-30-2008, 07:23 PM
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05-30-2008, 07:27 PM
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05-30-2008, 08:47 PM
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Right, but they are mainstream and THE leader in video distribution. The AFF and webcam affiliates most likely have similar conversion ratios as any other site. With that, their margins would be slimmer (bandwidth costs), unless, like I said they go with a pay per play model. Or, let other sites post their content as affiliates. But as for free movies with AFF or webcams as the only income stream... I just don't see the pay out until bandwidth costs drop. Then you have the litigation from copyright claims(illegal tubes).. I may be wrong, but I'd have to see the numbers to believe they are making a killing. Ya, they're here to stay, but I don't think they're are the end all be all. |
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05-30-2008, 09:18 PM
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splogs and blogs will live on as long as they get search engine traffic
I can be in profit with splogs with a penny or less a day each. Tube sites run on bookmarkers who are looking for free content. That can't be as profitable as someone searching you out with the normal ways of monetization. |
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05-30-2008, 11:38 PM
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05-31-2008, 12:20 AM
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Tube sites don't generate traffic on their own.
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05-31-2008, 01:56 AM
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05-31-2008, 02:18 AM
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Even if you have traffic, if it costs more than it makes you lose money. Getting a Tube site to make money is tough unless you can sit it on a good server which costs very little. The future is giving the customer more reasons to sign up other than he HAS to pay. Because he clearly does not have to. Quote:
How do you know they make money? Are they sitting on a server that costs little to nothing because of the link to AFF and others? Because they make money, if they do, how does that relate to it being the future? So many people in this business are totally clueless. They think it's about traffic, system or niche. It's about none of them. It's about delivering something the buyer wants at a price the buyer is willing to pay. Thankfully few get it. |
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05-31-2008, 03:00 AM
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There is no money in tube sites.
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05-31-2008, 03:03 AM
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Tube sites will be the next money making system for Plaintiffs
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05-31-2008, 03:58 AM
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If you think Redtube and Youporn and the rest aren't making A FUCKLOAD of money you are highly mistaken
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05-31-2008, 05:54 AM
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Wake up people. Tubes are here to stay and it's replacing the mgp's.
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05-31-2008, 06:19 AM
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then create 200 fake tubes and start trading traffic n shit tubes are still at their beginning IMO, how many BIG niche tubes are out there? now is the time, create a shemale tube and Google will send you thousands of visitors, make ebony tube - same story.... |
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05-31-2008, 06:40 AM
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Maybe the ratios are crap compared to other traffic (1:2000 instead of 1:200), but since the tube sites have so much traffic, it still brings in lots of sales. |
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05-31-2008, 08:26 AM
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05-31-2008, 10:29 AM
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web 3.1 is the next money making system
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05-31-2008, 10:35 AM
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tubes are the shit - they are killing paysites - in the near future its either do tube or die
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05-31-2008, 10:54 AM
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they already are....as a simple answer
some people are making them totally unsustainable these people are simply making to look a buck on the turn-around sale based on their traffic rank solely but most tubes are turning a nice profit already if you're looking for a full scale custom tube solution...feel free to hit me up
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05-31-2008, 11:11 AM
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Not all "Traffic" is created equal.
Traffic for Traffic's sake is a fools pursuit. Imagine a drunk blind man... playing golf.
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05-31-2008, 01:14 PM
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I think the current tube model is going to be limited. How can giving away so much make you money? Why would I join a pay site when I can watch full 20 minute videos on your site for free?
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05-31-2008, 01:58 PM
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I sustain my point of view : "visitors=power"... if there's a bit of quality too. :P
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05-31-2008, 04:52 PM
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Tube sites are like car boot sales lots of people who want something for nothing or a good bargain .... There is one sponsor which is doing 1:126 so far(which kinda suprised me) on a tube with a small amount of traffic and I aint gonna say who they are because all of you bastards will put it on your tubes....clue ..not dating or webcams
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05-31-2008, 04:56 PM
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oh Im logging of ICQ right now....
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05-31-2008, 05:05 PM
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ya, cuz giving shit away for free has worked out so well for this industry.
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05-31-2008, 05:58 PM
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there's no money in porn
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