sounds good! Let's try it

We will be releasing a new version of our Flash player within the next 2 weeks max. Make sure to check back for it, it will be a valuable addition for your surfers

wow after the upsells, the surfer could be charged about $140/mo

At first I thought this would be great... But now that I see the shady way you sign up the consumer to other sites without the option to opt out on the join page, I won't be signing up.. Going to have to go have a look at the cecash programs I promote now to see if you're doing the same shitty thing on there.

54 pre-checked cross-rapes.

is there only one partnership which allow only free trials and no sign up?

i think it's a great step, just wondering is there anybody else ;) just yes or no, i think it's not a good place to spam reflinks.

thx and sorry.

and is this ok that there're no hentai pics and videos galleries?
all another are available

LOL it is normal, I called and to order a pizzahut pizza and they showed up with salad, chicken strips and a 2 liter of coke. Already charged my card so now I have to call Visa and tell them I can't read to get my money back. Never calling pizzahut again

congrats on this shite

Looks good, will have to give it a try!

You won't regert it, these sites are converting great.

Only payout via check?

We payout via any option you like, epass, check, wire, paypal.

hmmm

in my cp i found only Check Check by FedEx Wire Transfer

btw can't find hentai pics and vids galleries. other are available ((

I'm ICQ'ing ya now

So you're just blatantly ignoring all webmasters with concerns about your multiple pre-checked cross-sales?

Are we invisible? Hello?

Congratulations to Ardy and Ray! As usual, one of the most innovative teams in our business continues to raise the benchmarks to compete. Great work and looking forward to sending you guys some additional traffic.

I don't care about the pre-checked cross sales.. but the fact that there are "cross sells" you can't even opt out of is what's pure dirty business.

Haha...Thanks buddy, was good seeing you in NY. Looking forward getting all of our projects move forward.

$40 per free signup is so COOL!

Exactly the point there right there.. How many people have said "never buying porn again" after getting fucked by something like this. Lot easier to stop buying porn than it is to stop ordering food too.

But it's okay, Ardy can keep ignoring everyone (including his CURRENT affiliates that have already said they're looking to see if they do this other places and pull links) and all the other program owners can continue to pile in with their ass kissing, I guess it works for them.

This industry is fucked up.

they will... buyers now will switch to tube sites :winkwink: then we've lost them all

Not only is it common sense to never pay for porn, we're now pushing people to get it for free, even if they're completely willing to pay for it.

I started a thread some months ago after seeing a "NEVER PAY FOR PORN AGAIN!" marketing campaign, and I was repeatedly told by everyone here that I was a moron, it was a great idea, and I should "adapt or die".

I think it was also CE Cash honestly.

hit me up.. I tried your icq.. it's not working?

Signed up :)

Just try reading those cross-sales. Honestly give it a go. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

Wow, looks great guys. But doesnt TrafficCashGold have some kind of copyright or something on using "traffic" and "cash" for a program name? Not trying to stir up shit but just curious

I don't think Ardy is ignoring anyone except for your wanker ass ... consider the following (as posted in another thread):

FreeLifetimeBonusPass $0 for life
LifetimeLesbianPass $39.95/mo
XratedLesbians $49.95/mo
MegamovieLibrary $39.95/mo
Total offer: $129.85

This is all based on the surfer NOT unchecking the pre-check box (which we know they do) AND them not canceling any of the bonus offers (which again a lot do) ... and still they'll get a free lifetime pass to a megasite valued at $39.95/mo ... not too shabby of an offer if you actually read English (which apparently you have problems doing :winkwink:)

Oh, and being the math is there to support the payouts it must also mean that CE can afford to payout rather than shave affiliates. :thumbsup

Yeah...

your membership will renew at $39.95/month, or the then applicable rate, until cancelled.

(***) Optional Bonus Offer details: If you remain a member beyond the Trial Period, your membership will renew at $49.95/month, or the then applicable rate, until cancelled.

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Old ICQ was all numerical at some point, was out of control ;)

I sent you an e-mail.

And yet after reviewing nearly 2,000 paysites, I can't name a single site that charges a $49.95 monthly fee.

Not one.

looks good

Touche. Now show me the respectable site that charges $49.95 a month.

Actually I think Abby Winters does now, with their new pricing.. They split their site into 3 different sites and if you buy all three, it's more money now.. But of course you get an amazing product for the money.

So bring it out man, if I'm such a tool, show me the site.

"Blabbedy bloom blah, blum blabbedy bloom blah ... I ain't hear a word you said ... hibitit hoopla!"

$49.50/mo
http://en.caribbeancom.com/eng/join.htm

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ribbeancom.com

Caribbeancom.com has a traffic rank of: 1,178

It's been fun but I poop turds like you before breakfast :1orglaugh

Great job CECash!

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Thanks JMK, was good seeing you in NY.

Socks,

I think you're really pushing this issue a bit much. The "other" thread wasn't meant to turn into a lynching, just a discussion of where this biz is at. CE is a company that has been around for a long time and I know the people there, they're certainly not looking to destroy the adult biz.

I'm a bit pissed that a thread meant for a discussion about xsales was taken and turned into an attack on the credibility of a company like that :( Especially one on people I have known for a long time.

Hey! Nice to finally meet you in NY @ WMA!

$0.45 short, try again. :winkwink:

I'll contact them and see if I can get inside to see what they're selling for 50 bucks.

But my point remains, it's *very* rare.

Thanks for your statement John, I really appreciate it.

You're right man.. I'm sick, I think I have mono.. Kinda delirious.. But honestly I'm tired of the constant clusterfuck in adult. In the early 2000's, adult sites really started cleaning themselves up. In the late nineties it had reached a point where a large number of sites were complete scams, which just diluted the value of online porn overall.

Then in the 2000's, it started to get a LOT better. Sites were really pushing value to the consumers, and it showed. Webmasters were making much better products.

Now it seems like with the money drying up a bit, the vultures are coming out in droves.

Anyways endrant, I'll drop the issue, but if everyone just keeps nodding along it won't be long before it's you who feels the pain. Nobody cares if someone is getting screwed until it happens to them, and I don't think that's right.

Also when these customers who DO chargeback become dead customers, that affects all of us. I guess the bro-machine is too strong for common sense around here. If nobody else cares enough, I guess I'll just go watch the Celtics win ;)

Now Ardy.. I'll behave.. I'd appreciate you addressing the issue of chargebacks as it relates to your new sites, and your company's views.. I won't even respond. I hope you'll have the decency to explain this to your affiliates.

Our affiliates need only to worry about sending traffic, let us worry about conversions, cb's and managing the risks at hand.

Ok, thanks for your response.

One more question as it relates to affiliates. Since I run review sites, I would only feel comfortable promoting these new sites if I was allowed to explain to my customers that there are pre-checked cross-sales, how they work, where they are, and how to spot them.

Would this be kosher with you?

Offering a 'free lifetime membership' just screams scam to most people. The stupid ones might think its a good deal but also probably can't afford all those xsales either.
I hate this type of program.

http://tour.lifetimetrannypass.com/t...html/ct13282.-

This only shows me a white page with text for me.. I am looking at it in FF

Sebastian

So you are saying that if you get chargebacks the webmasters will not get literally "fucked"???? .. Sorry .. meant > will the webmaster suffer after a CB? (moneywise)

Some hot looking sites CECash