very interesting

You are saying this is bad news for the industry overall or bad for non-US based companies?

The dollar is weak but it will rise..

There is a lack of creativity going on too, a lot of the new sites coming out look the same. Same type of content/scenarios. For example the chicks holding a big dick with that look of shock on their face type of content.. It's getting tired. It's time to micro niche your sites with more amateur made looking content.. Just my 2 cent.

Good thread.

Well from a billing standpoint, we must continue to offer clients new ways to increase their profits with out raising their price points. Volume discounts and billing in multi currencies, coulped with regional billing in a multi-currency format. I.E. expand customer base by offering someone in South America or Latin America a discounted membership. Lets say we have a $29.95 per month price point in the US, well in Latin America we could still bill them in US dollars but knock down the price point to $USD 7.95 or offer a conversion to a Latin American Currency equivalent to $7.95. We can do this now, even with a language conversion for the payment page so they know what they are getting.. its a big world out here and some economies are not tapped into our market.

Effecting the US Market.

Are you trying less with copycat and more with new ideas.

This is very important (billing in multi currencies)

you're very healthy? so no sales lost at all because the U.S. economy blows? Doubtful.

if healthy was happy there would not be this thread.

Some good points, but far from 'every' company is lacking at least 20% of they monthly turnover. I have a number of clients growing and a couple have reported this year, as the best year for them yet, so far.

3: In the next 6 months will see more companies closing down or Merging to stay on board.
Aye, this year again will be strong for this. But don't mistake what you 'hear' going on for actual business. I have purchased programs and sites, then turned around and sold them.

It wasn't the state of the industry that did it, just business. About 3-5 years ago most sites/programs actually started to produce decent content - which finally gave people a reason to buy them. We have less programs going 'poof' today than ever before, because they are being purchased.



The Internet changed, the people moved. Before they had Porn and 10 other things to look at that was worth a shit. Now they have 1000's of amazing things to do online and 1000's of new things coming out every year.

"OUR" surfers have simply been pulled away and anytime someone figures out how to remind those people that the 'net has porn or that X site has great porn, the traffic/sales just role in.

New page?

Now that's true....The first time I really saw it used a lot was by the BangBros....Now EVERYBODY has a girl with a shocked look on her face...

Healthy means we will be here for a long time. Dropping the sales that goes for everyone.

I agree.
We're in a recession. The phrase "tightening the belt" keeps coming up. You're going to see companies cutting back on extemporaneous expenses.
This isn't just about the dollar and piracy though - there's more competition than ever for the same decreasing dollar. There aren't fewer porn consumers. In fact, there are probably now more than ever.
There's going to be a shakeout in the market. Some will weather the storm, some won't.

we are processing in many many different currencies - to cover all types of markets.. we pay out in us or euro as well - hit me up so i can increase your bottom line by 60% - just based on currency conversions

maybe we should just stay with the european billing companies - its our market ;)

Good
Views from european billing company. They know they job very well

I say the customer base is growing.
The public is more educated and has a better idea for what they want.
Our overcrowded market is self cleaning, and requires stronger business structures and practices.
The consolidation has already started 2 years ago and will soon reach its peek.
Whatever your business is, survival and growth in today's market will come with brand loyalty, which means a clean and efficient experience for the users.

There are some very relevant points, one thing I would point out:

retention / care about the content programming / interaction with existing members base is going to be more important then ever, adult biz powerhouses with a combination of dating / cams / video in place are the best positioned to cope with any potential losses.

As for the international traffic - just to note, we are just testing the brand new site with ccbill / epoch in place so far and in three languages with different and very much local traffic sources.

The numbers so far confirm my theory, that the potential of non English (German and Italian in our case so far) speaking traffic paying with a credit card is probably way higher than what's the general public and presented opinion. More $ / unique sign up then what we could most likely make with phone billing.

The problem I see is that the international members are even not aware they can choose more suitable solutions such as EuroDebet and go for the first choice available, therefore more localisation of the join page neccessary.

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It didn't ever leave us Socks, it was always with us, in our hearts & also our minds, brainwashing us... dee no doo bah hai...

I have to agree with you.

need to hear more opinions.