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			 Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 He want to say they pay toomuch for ppc beacuse of bidding to non profitable keywords. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 hahahahahahaha 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 He's mad that he can't compete  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 oh jeez, ppc 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 "Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords" 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm sure AEBN knows what they are doing. Why do you care anyway? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 Look, this is their ad: Top Gay Porn Series Watch adult movies online now Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now! www.MovieMonster.com Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click. Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that. He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.  | 
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		 umm sig spot?? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 btw, if you have issues with any of what AEBN is going, you can call your google rep and complain 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 If you happen to want a gay site then they don't have any competition. 
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		 I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should. Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use. Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me. 
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		 I do well with AEBN...  Liz Wright rocks! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i dont do adwords much but they could just be buying ads at a loss in order to make people like yourself give up on looking to bid on those terms, or they could be "tasting" each keyword to get an idea of value. any number of things , including just straight making money  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all. Ron 
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 The other thing is a lot of listings are AEBN's WMs, not AEBN themselves. So the WMs must be making some good cash with AEBN to keep forking over those prices. And yes, VOD keywords are that expensive. 
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 See, you can't 'force' it to happen, it happens because people don't know 'how' to use Adwords. Nobody forces me out with the higher prices, it just makes it so I buy less trash words that don't produce very well anyway. You can tell, very easily by looking, if the correct matching is made on the keywords, related ad, url, and landing page - and very quickly see and know what the quality score would be. 
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		 looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I don't understand the fuzzz, let them burn cash, they don't get traffic from me anyway, so i don't mind their budget, non of my business. If one of my top sponsors who i make good cash with does this, i would perhaps think like you do, but still, whats the background idea of starting this post? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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