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				Anyone here watch the HBO MOVIE "Hacking Democracy" Diebold Voting Systems? FUCK!
			 
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			http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76866669054201 Very disturbing. Has anyone else seen it? 
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		 About as fucking scary as it gets. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 another grand conspiracy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Boo! 
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		 They all are unless they say what you want to hear, right?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 You work on the Internet, using computers. You know how easy it is to hack and tamper with programs and you made a stupid statement like that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 JEWS DID WTC! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Not saying there is any Conspiracy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			But its very disturbing to see Diebolds major security flaws in the Voting system. THe hacks and these people were able to do was very disturbing. Republicans and Democrats in many states have raised questions and probed inquiry. If anyone is to blame its that spineless John Kerry for not doing what he said he would with his probes. 
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		 Stupid statements like this is what keeps real issues from being looked at. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Anyone who questions serious issues is looked at as one of the nuts who belives shit like this. The Diebold issues are facts. Stupid "theories" like the one you posted are just that. Stupid.. 
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		 All I know is if someone claims they "can't" make those machines give you a receipt, it's just an outright lie. A gas pump gives me a receipt. A voting machine doesnt? Not using it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 12 clicks knows just as well as I do how easy an exe or how possible it is to exploit a system. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Ive made money doing it, or let me rephrase, Ive known friends who for many years have made profits off secure companies like Microsoft browsers and such "secure" bullshit systems like sp2 holes. The public and consumer outrage helped kill off the exploit biz.. The public and consumer outrage has yet to become aware of the holes in the Diebold system. 
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		 It's retarded to not question something so important for fear that it "might cast doubts". You don't want to cast doubts? Then investigate it to make certain that it's 100% accurate! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 When I talk to people outside the biz about companies like Zango, toolbars, exploits, etc they look at me like im fucking crazy.... Like im some consipracy nut....  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			They look at me like, "yeah right" like something that steals your money could really exist out there. They dont take me serious. ITs a similar dynamic for this group looking into diebold. They have facts, data, and proof. Yet people dont really care. They dont want to hear about serious issues of anykind really... Ive seen this first hand. Im mean give the sheep American Idol and they are happy. 
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		 Yep. Pretty Scary to say the least  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have it DVR'ed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I'm all for paper ballots 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Nothing wrong with using technology...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			There just needs to be a better auditing and accountabilty systems in place. To see them deny deny deny and deny issues on security only to later proven wrong time and time again is concerning. Using machines for voting is a good thing. But the lack of auditing and accountabilty needs to be addressed. 
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		 wow that really fucking sux..I just hope the hackers want OBAMA in 08 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I really hope any hackers out there will try to prove a point and make a Green party person win in a particular state or County. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			That would be too funny, and would really prove the point. 
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		 It's an amazing movie. It's sad no one seems to care. Both sides should want it fixed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I think one side did "fix" it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 how come i dont get dragged into the conspiracy threads anymore? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I think I've seen a movie with a similar message starring Robin Williams 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I can't hear you. Please yell it in my ear next time you're handing me my fries. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 havent seen it 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Yeah that was quite a program. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Of course just like a Michael Moore documentary, they won't concede a single point that would help the other side even if it's patently obvious....so you have to take it with a grain of salt and research the issue yourself if you want to come to an unbiased conclusion. That being said, it definitely reinforces my belief that we need to have a paper record of every vote that we can go back to in case of a challenge or a malfunction or anything like that. 
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