:1orglaugh

Now thats funny!:thumbsup

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This post is all too funny. I think you're in the wrong industry. I think you're on the wrong planet.

GFY thanks you for your honesty

thats true. I saw many many clothed women in the industry who dont get harassed like content does as long as you let people know that your not the content but the actual webmistress.

Seriously man, you'd be surprised just what being a social butterfly at a convention will get you.

Cheers,
Backov

Sly RJ,

How am I on the wrong planet? Is anything bout what I said untrue? What is your problem? Everything I said is true, it may not be what you like to hear, but it's true.

How am I in the wrong industry? Just because I don't want to see a bunch of naked whores means i'm in the wrong biz? Just because I sell porn over the net does not mean I have to like to
be in that kind of an atmosphere.

The part about you having a bad attitude is extremely true.

What exactly do you do anyway? I was always under the assumption that you built porn sites. Do you not? I swear I saw one of your sites listed at Bomis, if not, someone else must be using phogirl69.

I don't understand how you can build porn sites, yet you cringe at the thought of seeing other women naked or some guy getting his dick sucked.

Please explain, I'm very interested.

Whats to explain? I do primarily gay sites right now.

Does that mean I want to go into a gay club, and watch 2 guys fucking then ending in a facial cumshot?

FUCK NO.

Your tone is all wrong.

Yeah , I have some Bomis rings I use to feed my sites so yeah they are mine. Anyways, umm... I just think of sex as a product, but I sell it over the net so I don't think it's as bad as like really doing it in person you know? I just promote affiliate programs, so I just think of it as advertising and pushing as many surfers as I can to sponsors... There's nothing wrong with a guy getting his little weenie sucked, but do I actually have to witness it in person????

Nothing wrong with naked whores either, but doesn't mean I wanna have them doing it in front of my face either.

Fuck that. Not attending content parties because of the sex, totally understandable. Not attending conventions because there will be various girls showing some ass in person or on pictures, funny. You don't find that strange?

Well, whatever. You do what you want to do, that's your right...

True there are some girls who are dressed rather skimpy, but ther are no naked "whores" running around fucking,sucking everyhting in site.

Bah, leave Phogirl alone... she's a bit strange, but a sweetheart in there somewhere.

Just because she doesn't want to see someone getting sucked off by some paid slut, doesn't mean she shouldn't be in this business...

Maybe it just means some people are in it for the wrong reason..

Edited-

I tried to tell her that.

occupational hazzard ;)

You caught me. I build porn sites so I can go to the conventions and get free blow jobs. Damn! I thought I was hiding it better than that...

You see Drew, sweetie, I have this schtick that prevents me from promoting, marketing, or endorsing products (through any means) that I'm not necessarily crazy about. Pissing, scat, lolita, rape, etc. I'm not going to promote something that would seriously make me cringe. Sure, this industry is all about the money, but it isn't ALL about the money.

Well, I'm not in this for the porn of it all either.... and I think if it's a "webmaster" convention, then it should be that. Not a fuck party. I have to agree with phogirl on this one. I don't necessarily wanna see someone getting sucked off in front of me either. If I did, I'd go to a swingers party.

if you can't get your money back in deals and new business, you're going to the conventions for the wrong reason.

And some people said that you always remember someone you saw face to face better than an ICQ contact. Thats 100% true.


Once people have met you, they can "judge" you and see if they trust you. If can BS whatever I want on ICQ. Or you can pretend you're a girl on a msgboard(gfy anyone?) but once you have met someone, reality sets in and you actually "know" that person.

Its >always< easier doing business with people you have met.

my :2 cents:

Hmm... No, I don't mind if girls dress skimpy and flash a boobie.
I see that much when I go clubbing sometimes... and I have to admit I dress skimpy too :eek2 but I just don't want to see
the sex parties!!

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...uh, no sex party at the actual conventions...

dont like sex parties (I dont either), dont go...

So don't go to the parties. :)

these parties you speak of don't really exist as such....

topbucks pays professionals to perform at their pasties....but they are so crowded you wouldn't get in..

A lot of Amateur parties where sex is involved are usually held in private hotel rooms where you need to be invited to even findout about it.

If you weren't interested in seeing any live sex taking place you wouldn't have much problem.

Well damn, and thats the main reason I was gonna go.
:(

You are just too funny, and if you think going to a convention is just about seeing "Naked Whores" you are totally wrong! And further more, that is a pretty high and mighty attitude from some one in the porn industry, who purportedly makes a living selling such "naked whores" on the internet !:2 cents:

guess I'm in the *high and mighty* category too then.....

Hey I need mine popped also!!!!

But I am going to Vegas in January woohoo

Will you be there Nina???

Same here... :(

Amp have you ever been to a convention?

I too thought it would be girls running around naked doing all kinds of things....but when I went to the show in Florida I couldn't believe all the suites that were there.

Mind you this is on the convention floor, parties are the exception.

I'll be there, with bells on. :moon

excellent!! I got something to show you.....:Graucho

nope.... haven't seen a need for going.

did someone say bells?? ding!!

I'm not a convention virgin, but I'm a GFY party virgin... somehow, last year, I was gonna go to the coconut party and then the gfy one.... but I ended up not making it to both....

hopefully this year ;)

Back off! She's mine!

oh this fight should be a doozy!..in one corner we have the ever loving Wheels McCoy vs. the Vention Virgin from over seas ross!!


by the way "Vention Virgin" is hearby trademarked so anyone using it will have to communicate with my lawyers..biattcchhh!!

Sure thing Big Boy no need to get nasty!!!

LOL just being friendly geez whats wrong with the world?

hahaha :BangBang:

My first convention was 5 days after I got into this industry. I've been to 5 now. People are there for the Business. The parties are always 2nd. Actually shaking the hand of someone you do business with goes a long way. If you push affiliate programs sometimes it can get you a higher payout or revshare % just by being friends with the people that run the program. There is no nudity allowed on the convention floor. There is no sex allowed on the convention floor. Although the occasional boob slips out for a picture. These so called skanks and whores make you money. They are just as important to this industry as anyone else. You said yourself you have a bad additude. I think we all agree on that.

NO............ I am sorry............ your application has not been processed ! Please wait your turn!!:Graucho

I think you missed my point entirely. I wasn't worried about missing out on lost income because of going to a convention. My point was that most of the info you need to make money in this biz are in chat boards and in wm resource sites [and in your server logs]. While I see the recreational value in conventions, I'd rather communicate via ICQ or YIM and see no advantage lost.

The moment they start telling convention goers "secret formulas" re improving conversion ratios and dramatically increasing traffic, that is when I'll start going. Other than that, I'd rather stay at home and keep learning.

BTW, I also do this full time.

But the key question [and a yes answer to this will get me to go to the next convention post haste] have people actually gotten "inside" info on how to increase conversions or paysite designs/text combos or traffic sources that result in INCREASED INCOME?

I see your point re meeting someone and getting a higher % partnership cut or per sign up boost but this is secondary to the key Question I devote every waking second to--finding new traffic sources and conversion methods to make more money. I mean, an increase in payouts is nice but if I don't have traffic or its a low level traffic these don't help me too much.