***Are Epassporte payments traceable/taxable? - GoFuckYourself.com

MOxxx · 05-05-2008, 12:19 PM

I have a question which was probably asked several other times...

Are the payments received with Epassporte traceable?

Can the IRS find out about this money or The withdrawn made from any ATM in the US..?

sandman! · 05-05-2008, 12:20 PM

assume they are and just pay your taxes

roly · 05-05-2008, 12:26 PM

i would say yes

polish_aristocrat · 05-05-2008, 12:31 PM

'political correctness' and general responsibility will get you many replies saying that "you can never escape the taxman"

that being said, I know several guys in Europe who get paid with epassporte, withdraw their earnings from ATM's and never ever claimed any taxes! (usually young guys, not making/withdrawing more than a few $k's per month though)

(fuck, I know a guy receiving wires to his personal bank account for YEARS in a Western European country who never bothered to open a company and report any kind of income to the local IRS... )

but obviously, if you're serious about your biz, then not reporting income is generally not a good idea and epassporte income could be tracable as well. Better report everything and sleep well at night.

Chris · 05-05-2008, 12:32 PM

i would not think so
but you should be paying tax on anyone income you make for starters

it WILL catch up with you at some point.

Epassporte doesnt ask for ss# to pass onto the irs so dont think they get the info

unless the irs goes after them and then im sure the feds will be all over everyone

05-05-2008, 12:32 PM

Yes...They have your social security in their records for a reason. Just pay the tax and you'll be fine.

Cyndalie · 05-05-2008, 12:33 PM

You bet your bananas it is.

Chris · 05-05-2008, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm

Yes...They have your social security in their records for a reason. Just pay the tax and you'll be fine.

i never gave them a ss#?

Wizzo · 05-05-2008, 12:40 PM

Only if the payments are from a US company reporting them to the IRS, Epassporte doesn't report them...

MOxxx · 05-05-2008, 12:42 PM

I actually have been paying all my taxes since i opened the account 4 years ago, i was just wondering about what "polish_aristocrat" said about Peeps in EU compare to the U.S..

I personally know people and companies that use only the EP card at the ATM's so that's why i was wondering how it works here in U.S. and A.

I like to support the useful "war of terror" so i keep paying my taxes.

Chris · 05-05-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Only if the payments are from a US company reporting them to the IRS, Epassporte doesn't report them...

Yet ;)
give it time before they come knockin on epass' office doors ( IN THE US ;) ) and ask for all the records

i dont see anyone really getting THAT fucked unless they are doing like 100k+ without tellin anyone
and if you are that stupid to fuck around like that
you deserve your life being taken away by the irs

MOxxx · 05-05-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

i never gave them a ss#?

When i opened last week a corporate account for another company of mine they asked me my SS#

Chris · 05-05-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOxxx

When i opened last week a corporate account for another company of mine they asked me my SS#

hugeeeeeeeeee difference between a personal acct and an biz account

baddog · 05-05-2008, 12:57 PM

Legally, of course it is taxable income. What kind of question is that?

Antonio · 05-05-2008, 01:00 PM

if you log in to your epassporte account you can see the date, the time, the amount, and the ATM location where the withdrawal was made, that should tell you something, I belive (not 100% sure) that every single ATM transaction gets recorded

of course only unusual ATM transactions will trigger some sort of "reporting mechanism" and might lead to an investigation but if the IRS starts investigating YOU I think they'll have no problem finding out about your epassporte withdrawals

wargames · 05-05-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!

assume they are and just pay your taxes

You never know if they ever become traceable

J. Falcon · 05-05-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOxxx

I like to support the useful "war of terror" so i keep paying my taxes.

woj · 05-05-2008, 02:14 PM

It's not tracable till you somehow get caught... and there are dozens of ways one could get caught, all probably not very likely, but if you do get caught you are beyond fucked, with penalties, interest, lawyer fees, etc, you will probably be paying it off for the next 20 years... and that's a good case scenario too, if they choose to make an example out of you, they will probably tack on some bullshit charges and you will spend a year or 2 in jail... catching a pornographer fucking with the taxman would be a great way to get re-elected

okdesign · 05-05-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Only if the payments are from a US company reporting them to the IRS, Epassporte doesn't report them...

stev0 · 05-05-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Legally, of course it is taxable income. What kind of question is that?

I think his question was "can they catch you?" ;)

Pleasurepays · 05-05-2008, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Only if the payments are from a US company reporting them to the IRS, Epassporte doesn't report them...

yeah right.

Epassporte (and any bank for that matter) doesn't report anything to the IRS until someone from the IRS/State Dept shows up and demands the information as part of an investigation.

You have no protection, safety or security at all if you are a US Citizen breaking the law. Period. End of story.

Anyone outside the industry reading this board would think everyone here is 12 years old.

MOxxx · 05-05-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Legally, of course it is taxable income. What kind of question is that?

Dude we all know you are the smarter around here, just answer the question and don't make another one.

Furthermore read why i made that question in my second post.

rowan · 05-05-2008, 04:39 PM

For personal accounts, the answer to the question could change a little once you're required to submit all the extra verification docs...

Barefootsies · 05-05-2008, 08:11 PM

My old college roommate works for homeland security, and we've had this discussion. He used to be F.O.C. before that, and even THEY had ways to track the shit in some database. Not all counties, but his did.
Anyways... I do not have epass, but it comes up enough on the board(s) that I posed the question.

The answer to your riddle is, "yes". Everything electronic, and running through any kind of financial institution is 'traceable' in compliance with homeland security (and even before that). Both domestic, and international.

So, best to pay your taxes. Now to the second part of your not planning to pay taxes question...

Luckily for a lot of people, the IRS is so overwhelmed that it may be 5, 10, 20 years before they catch you. By that time, the money you owe will be in the XX,XXX or XXX,XXX so not only will you get hammered in all their bullshit back taxes in fees. You will most likely end up next to Wesley.

Kinda hard to deny you should have paid SOME kind of tax on income over a decade(s).

The morale of the story is,... it's only a question of 'when', not 'if'.

SweetT · 05-05-2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

... catching a pornographer fucking with the taxman would be a great way to get re-elected

DING DING DING....we have a winner!

--T

Domain Diva · 05-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

The answer to your riddle is, "yes". Everything electronic, and running through any kind of financial institution is 'traceable' in compliance with homeland security (and even before that). Both domestic, and international.

Thats the answer condensed into 3 lines

or to make it even more simple "You can run but you cant hide"

Epassporte,Paypal,Western Uni,all global movement of money is recorded and not just the IRS is interested but goverments worldwide.

Of course it does not mean you are going to get a knock on your door but dont assume using online processors is a way to avoid tax

Emil · 05-06-2008, 01:21 AM

I'm sure they can find out if they really want to. The Swedish tax department didn't have any idea that I had another VISA account until I told them.. I thought they already knew. They said:

"But your transactions on that card will show up on your swedish bank statement, right?"

But I do pay all my taxes from now on, because I'm sure they can find out if they really look into it..

bloggingseo · 05-06-2008, 01:32 AM

Just ask wesley snipes about avoiding taxes. No matter what you do, the taxman will always fuck you somehow

pstation · 05-06-2008, 01:54 AM

whenever you pull money out of an atm regularly using a foreign card, that gets your name thrown on some sort of irs watch list

timoxxl2 · 05-06-2008, 02:40 AM

actually, you should not bother about epass, but rather about the company the money is from ... if sponsor X pays you through epass and you give your information to sponsor X, there might be a tax investigation at sponsor X and than they will find your information as well ... and they dont care on which way you received the money, because they have all the statistics at sponsor X ... but than they will investigate in all your income and find everything

05-05-2008, 12:19 PM	#1
MOxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 3,022	***Are Epassporte payments traceable/taxable? I have a question which was probably asked several other times... Are the payments received with Epassporte traceable? Can the IRS find out about this money or The withdrawn made from any ATM in the US..? __________________ Increase revenue and maximize your business potential by translating your website with a partner who truly understands your industry! For more information about X-Rated Translations visit https://www.xratedtranslations.com

05-05-2008, 12:20 PM	#2
sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,431	assume they are and just pay your taxes __________________ Need WebHosting ? Email me for some great deals [email protected]

05-05-2008, 12:31 PM	#4
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	'political correctness' and general responsibility will get you many replies saying that "you can never escape the taxman" that being said, I know several guys in Europe who get paid with epassporte, withdraw their earnings from ATM's and never ever claimed any taxes! (usually young guys, not making/withdrawing more than a few $k's per month though) (fuck, I know a guy receiving wires to his personal bank account for YEARS in a Western European country who never bothered to open a company and report any kind of income to the local IRS... ) but obviously, if you're serious about your biz, then not reporting income is generally not a good idea and epassporte income could be tracable as well. Better report everything and sleep well at night. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

05-05-2008, 12:32 PM	#5
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	i would not think so but you should be paying tax on anyone income you make for starters it WILL catch up with you at some point. Epassporte doesnt ask for ss# to pass onto the irs so dont think they get the info unless the irs goes after them and then im sure the feds will be all over everyone __________________ [email protected]

05-05-2008, 12:33 PM	#7
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	You bet your bananas it is. __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

05-05-2008, 12:26 PM	#3
roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	i would say yes

05-05-2008, 12:32 PM	#6
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Yes...They have your social security in their records for a reason. Just pay the tax and you'll be fine.

05-05-2008, 12:40 PM	#9
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Only if the payments are from a US company reporting them to the IRS, Epassporte doesn't report them... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

05-05-2008, 12:42 PM	#10
MOxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 3,022	I actually have been paying all my taxes since i opened the account 4 years ago, i was just wondering about what "polish_aristocrat" said about Peeps in EU compare to the U.S.. I personally know people and companies that use only the EP card at the ATM's so that's why i was wondering how it works here in U.S. and A. I like to support the useful "war of terror" so i keep paying my taxes. __________________ Increase revenue and maximize your business potential by translating your website with a partner who truly understands your industry! For more information about X-Rated Translations visit https://www.xratedtranslations.com

05-05-2008, 12:57 PM	#14
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Legally, of course it is taxable income. What kind of question is that?

05-05-2008, 01:00 PM	#15
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	if you log in to your epassporte account you can see the date, the time, the amount, and the ATM location where the withdrawal was made, that should tell you something, I belive (not 100% sure) that every single ATM transaction gets recorded of course only unusual ATM transactions will trigger some sort of "reporting mechanism" and might lead to an investigation but if the IRS starts investigating YOU I think they'll have no problem finding out about your epassporte withdrawals

05-05-2008, 02:14 PM	#18
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	It's not tracable till you somehow get caught... and there are dozens of ways one could get caught, all probably not very likely, but if you do get caught you are beyond fucked, with penalties, interest, lawyer fees, etc, you will probably be paying it off for the next 20 years... and that's a good case scenario too, if they choose to make an example out of you, they will probably tack on some bullshit charges and you will spend a year or 2 in jail... catching a pornographer fucking with the taxman would be a great way to get re-elected __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

05-05-2008, 04:39 PM	#23
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	For personal accounts, the answer to the question could change a little once you're required to submit all the extra verification docs...

05-05-2008, 08:11 PM	#24
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	My old college roommate works for homeland security, and we've had this discussion. He used to be F.O.C. before that, and even THEY had ways to track the shit in some database. Not all counties, but his did. Anyways... I do not have epass, but it comes up enough on the board(s) that I posed the question. The answer to your riddle is, "yes". Everything electronic, and running through any kind of financial institution is 'traceable' in compliance with homeland security (and even before that). Both domestic, and international. So, best to pay your taxes. Now to the second part of your not planning to pay taxes question... Luckily for a lot of people, the IRS is so overwhelmed that it may be 5, 10, 20 years before they catch you. By that time, the money you owe will be in the XX,XXX or XXX,XXX so not only will you get hammered in all their bullshit back taxes in fees. You will most likely end up next to Wesley. Kinda hard to deny you should have paid SOME kind of tax on income over a decade(s). The morale of the story is,... it's only a question of 'when', not 'if'. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?" Last edited by Barefootsies; 05-05-2008 at 08:13 PM..

05-06-2008, 01:21 AM	#27
Emil Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,657	I'm sure they can find out if they really want to. The Swedish tax department didn't have any idea that I had another VISA account until I told them.. I thought they already knew. They said: "But your transactions on that card will show up on your swedish bank statement, right?" But I do pay all my taxes from now on, because I'm sure they can find out if they really look into it.. __________________ Free 🅑🅘🅣🅒🅞🅘🅝🅢 Every Hour (Yes, really. Free ₿itCoins.) (Signup with ONLY your Email and Password. You can also refer people and get even more.)

05-06-2008, 01:32 AM	#28
bloggingseo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 1,793	Just ask wesley snipes about avoiding taxes. No matter what you do, the taxman will always fuck you somehow __________________ Writing mainstream and adult since 2003 Hit me up ICQ 375089597

05-06-2008, 01:54 AM	#29
pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	whenever you pull money out of an atm regularly using a foreign card, that gets your name thrown on some sort of irs watch list

05-06-2008, 02:40 AM	#30
timoxxl2 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 997	actually, you should not bother about epass, but rather about the company the money is from ... if sponsor X pays you through epass and you give your information to sponsor X, there might be a tax investigation at sponsor X and than they will find your information as well ... and they dont care on which way you received the money, because they have all the statistics at sponsor X ... but than they will investigate in all your income and find everything