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05-02-2008, 02:14 PM

SO I have been doing some testing with some of the new "TRUE" HD codecs h264, VP6E and the VP6S 720P 2mbps streams. I have come to the conclusion that the VP6S codec performs the best all around and really seems to need less processing power to view the file. SO I thought I would share a little sample of some true HD content. Recorded in HD, encoded from the master into the VP6S codec for viewing in 720P in our X2K Media video player.

Just go to the site and click the demo button: www.x2kmedia.com

In the player there is a little HD button give it a click and let me know what your thoughts are about it. I already know the scene is hot come on now!! Please do not give me shit if your connection sucks I cant help you with that..

We will be making a nice PR next week regarding Matrix Feeds so keep an eye out for it.

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05-02-2008, 02:19 PM

REAL TRUE HD on the web, about time.... NICE Bugbee... Maybe we will stop see'n the HD button on 320x240 (4:3) videos now, LOLOLOL

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05-02-2008, 02:24 PM

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SO I have been doing some testing with some of the new "TRUE" HD codecs h264, VP6E and the VP6S 720P 2mbps streams. I have come to the conclusion that the VP6S codec performs the best all around and really seems to need less processing power to view the file. SO I thought I would share a little sample of some true HD content. Recorded in HD, encoded from the master into the VP6S codec for viewing in 720P in our X2K Media video player.

HD isn't 2mbps at 1280x720. A dvd has a higher bitrate than that.

Most "HD" content for 720p sponsors has a bitrate of 3.5-4.0 (or higher).

Nevertheless, your content looks good. Just easy it on the "TRUE" HD marketing bullshit.

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05-02-2008, 02:28 PM

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05-02-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by ucv.karl

HD isn't 2mbps at 1280x720. A dvd has a higher bitrate than that.

Most "HD" content for 720p sponsors has a bitrate of 3.5-4.0 (or higher).

Nevertheless, your content looks good. Just easy it on the "TRUE" HD marketing bullshit.

thanks, we have it at 3.0-3.5 but that is kind of overkill for now, i hear you about the marketing bullshit no where on my site does it say "TRUE HD" only in this thread, fucking around on a friday I suppose, thanks karl

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05-02-2008, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by ucv.karl

HD isn't 2mbps at 1280x720. A dvd has a higher bitrate than that.

Most "HD" content for 720p sponsors has a bitrate of 3.5-4.0 (or higher).

Nevertheless, your content looks good. Just easy it on the "TRUE" HD marketing bullshit.

H.264 you can use a lower bitrate and still get the same quality output. If you want to see a demo of a 1.5mbps stream that will blow your mind with 0 buffering let me know.
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05-02-2008, 02:35 PM

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05-02-2008, 02:43 PM

It looks perfect. I really like the "SCENE SELECT" navigation feature on the flash player

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05-02-2008, 02:50 PM

Nice, do you have teen feeds? Can we see a screen shot of a members area that has it in use?
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05-02-2008, 03:01 PM

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05-02-2008, 03:04 PM

we are working on a teen feed should be up soon, we do have a solo girl feed check it out,
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05-02-2008, 03:32 PM

Thanks for all your help on adding the MatrixHD line to our website, works great and been getting a lot of good feedback from our members

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05-02-2008, 03:54 PM

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Thanks for all your help on adding the MatrixHD line to our website, works great and been getting a lot of good feedback from our members

thanks it just gets better and better!!!

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05-02-2008, 04:04 PM

thats some shit hot cmpression.

bugs is that the standard now? 2mbps?

i see brazzers and bangbros streaming at that now, flash and wmv.
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05-02-2008, 04:06 PM

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05-02-2008, 04:07 PM

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thats some shit hot cmpression.

bugs is that the standard now? 2mbps?

i see brazzers and bangbros streaming at that now, flash and wmv.

thanks I see it becoming more of the standard, our high is a little smaller than that but with the VP6S we are doing it around there, for now....i would love 3.0-3.5 but patience bugbee patience lol

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05-02-2008, 04:25 PM

True HD in flash.

Uhh...

Yeah OK. Sure.
I got a bridge for you to buy.

Far to many relics, you can see the ripples in the compression.
Flash has a way to go before it can deliver real clarity. What are you trying to pull here?
If thats 720P I will put a bullet to my head because it is not 720P in Flash.

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05-02-2008, 04:29 PM

Why not just say Some good quality feeds and relie on the content?
Because the quality is not "Up there".
It is substandard IMHO to WMV HD compressions that blow the quality away on what I just saw.

This is fucken silly.

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05-02-2008, 05:12 PM

looks like nicely shot sd dont see a big difference. Very nice shooting work.
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05-02-2008, 05:46 PM

I don't get it, I can only go full screen which made it look like shit and being that small it is hard to say, from high quality to HD I can't see much difference.
Also I would think Flash would be harder to pull off then most others, Keep in mind I do not know much LOL. I just finished encoding some in HD but I think I am going to call it super high quality LOL, everyone has an opinion though and my customers opinion is what I go with.

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05-02-2008, 06:07 PM

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05-02-2008, 06:24 PM

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True HD in flash.

Uhh...

Yeah OK. Sure.
I got a bridge for you to buy.

Far to many relics, you can see the ripples in the compression.
Flash has a way to go before it can deliver real clarity. What are you trying to pull here?
If thats 720P I will put a bullet to my head because it is not 720P in Flash.

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Flash 9 h.264 codec.

www.hulu.com/hd pick a trailer any trailer.
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05-02-2008, 06:28 PM

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05-02-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Flash 9 h.264 codec.

www.hulu.com/hd pick a trailer any trailer.

thats done with hardware not with a pc and some encoding program. cant compare.

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05-02-2008, 06:34 PM

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thats done with hardware not with a pc and a copy of squeeze. cant compare.

Nope its not. Its software. h.264 codec. What hardware do you think is different than what we have availability to? Brb hot tub and pool calls.
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05-02-2008, 06:45 PM

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Nope its not. Its software. h.264 codec. What hardware do you think is different than what we have availability to? Brb hot tub and pool calls.

here you noob lol http://www.visiblelight.com/mall/pro...w.aspx?pid=716
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05-02-2008, 06:54 PM

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here you noob lol http://www.visiblelight.com/mall/pro...w.aspx?pid=716

You think that is required to encode a 2mbps HD stream using h.264? That is for heavy duty huge batch files. It just does it faster, not necessarily better. Faster no doubt. Not required thankfully in order to do beautiful HD video encodes though. Pool closed for maintenance bah

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05-02-2008, 07:04 PM

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You think that is required to encode a 2mbps HD stream using h.264? That is for heavy duty huge batch files. It just does it faster, not necessarily better. Faster no doubt. Not required thankfully in order to do beautiful HD video encodes though. Pool closed for maintenance bah

Sorry it makes a huge difference.
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05-02-2008, 07:13 PM

1 - The sample is badly compressed I'm afraid

2 - I'm sorry to say Sticky is right about this one

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05-02-2008, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by NoWhErE

1 - The sample is badly compressed I'm afraid

2 - I'm sorry to say Sticky is right about this one

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05-02-2008, 09:28 PM

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True HD in flash.

Uhh...

Yeah OK. Sure.
I got a bridge for you to buy.

Far to many relics, you can see the ripples in the compression.
Flash has a way to go before it can deliver real clarity. What are you trying to pull here?
If thats 720P I will put a bullet to my head because it is not 720P in Flash.

SOrry to interrupt the ass kissing parade.

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Yes it is. Video is 1280x720. I have a gun for you.

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05-02-2008, 09:37 PM

This is not anywhere near Matrix potential, sorry to say.
You guys have some fabulous stuff and great, inventive minds...but that sample is not it.

High pixelation, compression artifacts, buffer lag, ... nah sorry Stephen.

As mentioned several times here already, the bitrate is simply too low. High bitrate requirements ARE an issue with many consumers but again, you can't say it's true HD if it doesn't even have the necessary bits to work with.

With an announcement bashing half of the industry you'll really want to make sure that what you present as TRUE HD is really that.

(BTW, the player functions are nice, but the look needs some serious polishing too to go with the HD look, IMHO).

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05-02-2008, 09:38 PM

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Yes it is. Video is 1280x720. I have a gun for you.

But that does not make it Progressive Video, and the video does not play back at that aspect ratio

The quality is nice, the feed should do well, the player is cool.
Now I seem to recall when I was doing content, I ran around talkin HD this and HD that. Little lesson from the past. I happened to shoot in 720P and thats not 720P on the final output. Its gone through a compressor people are going to point that fact out in every thread made about the matter which in turn will down play the actual significance of what you got here.;)

Don't do that shit unless you offering true HD Video downloads

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05-02-2008, 09:40 PM

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05-02-2008, 09:44 PM

It's just not the right time for HD... bigger files, more internet bandwidth, hardware specs to manage the data -- and they need to invent a cure for pussy and ass zits before we start looking at high resolution crotch shots.

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05-02-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin

AlienQ invented HD (shitposting.)

Actually I did.

http://www.ialien.com/juliabond/trailerfin.wmv

That was done in 1080i in 2006. Well before anyone in adult picked up an HD cam and produced with em let alone understand or even pronounce HD.
Goin on and on about how impossible it is.

Only one guy before then did it for DVD.

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05-02-2008, 09:50 PM

Now that was HD.

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05-02-2008, 09:56 PM

For all who don't think that the encoded sample can be improved, you're right. Encoding with VP6s is very difficult and has bugs. It's a first step and will improve. Anyone willing to pay the bandwidth cost can have the feeds in this quality:
http://matrixhd.com/download.php

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05-02-2008, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Actually I did.

http://www.ialien.com/juliabond/trailerfin.wmv

That was done in 1080i in 2006. Well before anyone in adult picked up an HD cam and produced with em let alone understand or even pronounce HD.
Goin on and on about how impossible it is.

Only one guy before then did it for DVD.

I have been doing HD since middle of 2005 (first cam used was the HVR Z1U).

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05-02-2008, 09:58 PM

from looking at the grain in the trailer I'd bet your cam was prolly also one of the first Sony HDV cams and you possibly accidentally hit the gain button, eh?

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05-02-2008, 09:59 PM

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I have been doing HD since middle of 2005 (first cam used was the HVR Z1U).

Yeah I started in 2005 with the very first prosumer from JVC.

JVC GR HD1.

So fuck you;)

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05-02-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Kroy

from looking at the grain in the trailer I'd bet your cam was prolly also one of the first Sony HDV cams and you possibly accidentally hit the gain button, eh?

It was pretty low light and yeah that was done with the Sony.

The Sony did way better than the JVC. Infact it kicked the most ass in 2006.

2005 http://www.ialien.com/valoriedemo/demo1.wmv

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05-02-2008, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by NLB

For all who don't think that the encoded sample can be improved, you're right. Encoding with VP6s is very difficult and has bugs. It's a first step and will improve. Anyone willing to pay the bandwidth cost can have the feeds in this quality:
http://matrixhd.com/download.php

As far as H.264, please note that you have to pay to use it.
http://mpegla.com

IMHO I think the issue is not so much what can be done but rather that what's being touted as so much better than anything else out there is really just mediocre at best.

Second, you can get encoding solutions that utilize the H.264 codec and has already taken care of the licensing issue.

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05-02-2008, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Yeah I started in 2005 with the very first prosumer from JVC.

JVC GR HD1.

So fuck you;)

Okay man you got me beat there.
But that should have been sometime around 2005 for you then too, no?

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05-02-2008, 10:05 PM

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Okay man you got me beat there.
But that should have been sometime around 2005 for you then too, no?

Sorry link above is JVC GR HD1, yes 2005, its in the sub title as well
http://www.ialien.com/valoriedemo/demo1.wmv

I am not trying to stomp what Matrix has here, I think it is going to be a great product, Norm is a way better shooter than I ever will be.
So lets not get to side tracked

The pluggin they offer is pretty outstanding all in all.
I checked some of the other demo clips they got its pretty sweet.

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05-02-2008, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by NLB

For all who think that the encoded sample can be improved, you're right. Encoding with VP6s is very difficult and has bugs. It's a first step and will improve. Anyone willing to pay the bandwidth cost can have the feeds in this quality:
http://matrixhd.com/download.php

As far as H.264, please note that you have to pay to use it.
http://mpegla.com

It's a little late, so oops. That's what I meant! We will begin shooting with a Red camera. Can't wait.
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05-02-2008, 10:09 PM

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05-02-2008, 10:09 PM

Maybe I dont know what Im looking at, but that looks like run of the mill video to me.
I have seen much better quality.

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05-02-2008, 10:10 PM

RED ONE or one of the newer ones they'll be pushing out soon?
THAT will be amazing, man!
Can't wait to see your footage from the RED.

...Now Norman, for that kind of quality you really want to figure out a way to publish HD all the way

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05-02-2008, 10:16 PM

People have got 720P HD to play at 500K. Its all based on how good your source material and how good your encoding skills are.

Take a look at the demo on

http://www.flashvideofactory.com/tes...H264_500K.html

As for Codec, its either H264 or VC1

http://on10.net/blogs/benwagg/Hands-...ll-Stars-Redo/

Talks about why VC1 is better

Jay
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