If this doesn't anger and scare you...

[BradM]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...736831,00.html

Well I don't know what to say.

[J. Falcon]

It angers me a lot.

[Mike Honcho]

WOW, looks like Zeitgeist is turning out to more true by the hour.....


This was such a corrupted goverment, that we may never recover from it.


Just think where we'd be today if Gore wasn't shafted out of the white house.


It makes me sick to think the world is nothing but a farse, and that big buisness truly runs the world, god, if there is one, help us.

[Martin]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5xtjxRySbg

Watch this...

[StuartD]

Over time, more and more of these will surface.

They've been getting away with murder for so long just to line their own pockets and their friend's pockets a little finer.

History will see this as the time that a nation let a bunch of greedy pigs have the ultimate power and never questioned it.

[notoldschool]

not at all surprising. It happens at every level in the military. its called blame shifting. "shit flows down river".

[Elli]

What a kerfuckle.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

WOW, looks like Zeitgeist is turning out to more true by the hour.....


This was such a corrupted goverment, that we may never recover from it.


Just think where we'd be today if Gore wasn't shafted out of the white house.


It makes me sick to think the world is nothing but a farse, and that big buisness truly runs the world, god, if there is one, help us.

Was?????

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Over time, more and more of these will surface.

They've been getting away with murder for so long just to line their own pockets and their friend's pockets a little finer.

History will see this as the time that a nation let a bunch of greedy pigs have the ultimate power and never questioned it.

keep in mind that these greedy pigs are in a position to rewrite history. mark my word, in a hundred years you will read about the glorious bush adminstration and their good deeads in iraq and the good they did for the entire world.

[2012]

yeah, just one of a 100's that you can't do anything about.... nobody seems to care. they get away with murder ...

[Violetta]

nothing surprises my with that gang!

[dropped9]

it is fucking disgusting...

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

keep in mind that these greedy pigs are in a position to rewrite history. mark my word, in a hundred years you will read about the glorious bush adminstration and their good deeads in iraq and the good they did for the entire world.

If anyone is left to read the history books.

[Swish]

Rumsfeld was and is a tool

[Ethersync]

I wish the democrats would grow a pair and try to do something about all this shit...

[CDSmith]

To say I was shocked would be an understatement. I had never seen any approved CENTCOM campaign plan, either conceptual or detailed, for the post�major combat operations phase. When I was on the ground in Iraq and saw what was going on, I assumed they had done zero Phase IV planning. Now, three years later, I was learning for the first time that my assumption was not completely accurate. In fact, CENTCOM had originally called for twelve to eighteen months of Phase IV activity with active troop deployments. But then CENTCOM had completely walked away by simply stating that the war was over and Phase IV was not their job.

That decision set up the United States for a failed first year in Iraq. There is no question about it. And I was supposed to believe that neither the Secretary of Defense nor anybody above him knew anything about it? Impossible! Rumsfeld knew about it. Everybody on the NSC knew about it, including Condoleezza Rice, George Tenet, and Colin Powell. Vice President Cheney knew about it. And President Bush knew about it.

There's not a doubt in my mind that they all embraced this decision to some degree. And if it had not been for the moral courage of Gen. John Abizaid to stand up to them all and reverse Franks's troop drawdown order, there's no telling how much more damage would have been done.

In the meantime, hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars were unnecessarily spent, and worse yet, too many of our most precious military resource, our American soldiers, were unnecessarily wounded, maimed, and killed as a result. In my mind, this action by the Bush administration amounts to gross incompetence and dereliction of duty.

Surprising, no. Highly disconcerting? Absolutely.

[severe]

check out the movie / doc IRAQ FOR SALE: The War Profiteers

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

I wish the democrats would grow a pair and try to do something about all this shit...

The democrats are politicians too.

It's the people that need to stand up and do something.

[directfiesta]

Rumsfeld, Bush, Wolfowitz , Cheney should be judged for the killing of 4000 americans and 10's of thousands of Iraqis.
If found guilty ( they should consider themself lucky to be granted the right of defense - Gitmo ... - ), they should be hanged, just like Saddam was for the killing of 120 or so shiites ( those that you guys are killing now ... ).

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by StuartD

The democrats are politicians too.

It's the people that need to stand up and do something.

Oh, I agree. Just sayin' the Dems talk a lot of shit, but they are pussies and equally complicit

The whole 2 party system needs to be flushed down the toilet.

[Tom_PM]

You need to start paying attention to the best show on tv. Frontline on PBS.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/

Find and watch the ones pertaining to Bush and Iraq.

Some look down on PBS as a matter of course, but some of us set our Tivo's and DVR's. They do a fantastic job of good old investigative reporting. And not the kind of news magazine bullshit that the networks and cable news stations do. They do it real and right.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

not at all surprising. It happens at every level in the military. its called blame shifting. "shit flows down river".

Yep.. like how all the people caught on Camera at Abu Ghraib got spanked but pretty much no one that had been in charge was. New documentary either just released or about to be released.. gonna be interesting..

As far as I'm concerned, Bush and crew should be thrown in jail or even better yet, tried for treason.. He's clearly broken his oath to office.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Over time, more and more of these will surface.

They've been getting away with murder for so long just to line their own pockets and their friend's pockets a little finer.

History will see this as the time that a nation let a bunch of greedy pigs have the ultimate power and never questioned it.

I just read the whole thing...
Its a real shame that Rumsfled is claiming "ignorance" as a defense. I agree with Ricardo S. Sanchez that the actions of the Bush administration amounts to gross incompetence and dereliction of duty.

I want to see the Bush administration hanged in the public square.

[Phoenix]

wait..where are the tinfoil hats?

[Tom_PM]

Rummy was angry when the doj said you could only force prisoners to stand for 4 hours. You see, Donald worked at a standing desk all day, so he wrote a hand written memo on the doj document, asking "why only 4 hours? I stand 10 to 12 hours a day!".