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i like epass poo

100%

You cant walk into any bank and give some bogus info, get a card and get paid to it. Hell paypal was even more of a pain in the ass to get an account, and they verified bank accounts and credit cards.

Are you serious? Any of the people included in you a), b) and c) points will make up fake documents in no time. Epass has nothing to check the info that is sent with.

What they are doing in building useless bureaucracy, annoying their customers and putting personal information of users at risk. :2 cents:

And, if so, they are requiring a copy of the front and back of a credit card with CVV code clearly showing. Storing that is not allowed by the card association rules and regulations.

How is my info being stored other than "secure"? If I upload it, then what type of server is it being stored on? If I fax it over, what type of location is it being stored at?

I feel like ripping my fuckin' hair out today with the amount of idiots on this board.

what is Ticket #?

where can i find that in my epass account?

Stop comparing epass to a bank.

I won't submit this shit to epass because the info is NOT secure. If I open a BofA account there is no risk of personal identity theft etc.

At Epass 4 people could just go rogue and walk out with everyones info. Enough to completely destroy peoples lives.

Are you joking? Come on. If you submit this info, I will post this reply in every one of your "omg i got fucked" threads.

i need to know what is that so i can upload my requirements now

Ditto :disgust

paging epass rep!

:Oh crap

I would like an answer to how they figure they can legally store CVV2 numbers?? I am sure that the major credit card conglomerates would not be very happy about this either ...

Where is Chad Bellevue, JD Obenberger, Lawrence Walters, or other internet lawyers who used to frequent GFY when we need them?

Found this tidbit on VISA's website :

Card Verification Value 2 (CVV2)

Is a three-digit number imprinted on the signature panel of Visa cards to help card-not-present merchants verify that the customer has a legitimate card in hand at the time of the order. The merchant asks the customer for the CVV2 code and then sends it to the card Issuer as part of the authorization request. The card Issuer checks the CVV2 code to determine its validity, then sends a CVV2 result back to the merchant along with the authorization. CVV2 is required on all Visa cards.

To protect CVV2 data from being compromised, Visa U.S.A. Inc. Operating Regulations prohibit merchants from keeping or storing CVV2 numbers once a transaction has been completed.

As the card that we use to load our Epassporte is not issued by them, for all intense purposes, they fall into the category of merchant for the transaction involving our signing up for an epassporte card!

For MasterCard:
http://www.mastercardmerchant.com/do...hant_rules.pdf

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So as you can clearly see, for ANY Acquirers, merchants, and merchant service providers TO STORE CVV2 NUMBERS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, IS ILLEGAL, AND DEALT WITH VERY STRICTLY ...

Could we start a CLASS ACTION to keep Epassporte honest I wonder??

I am truly sorry Michael, as I have dealt with you in the past, and you are HANDS DOWN the GREATEST asset that Epassporte has ....

I'm sorry to be making your life more difficult Bro :(

Michael,

I also uploaded a pic of me blowing a kiss ;)! I LOVE EPASS!

Just leave the ticket# balnk.

for all the guys complaining about not feeling safe sending documents, um dont send them and stop using epass....its their fucking company, they run it the way they want...they provide a service, you dont like said service then stop using them...stop trying to crusade against identity theft etc and move on. most of you come off as whiny bitches.

if they said they wont release any funds until they receive the documents then that is a whole different story but MichaelO has already mentioned that they will allow you to get your money and then close your account.

In regards to the CVV2 number cant you just black it out before you upload it to epass?

Will uploading these documents mean that the account won't become frozen anymore when it reaches $5k balance?

Yes you can.

Yes.....

Michael,

Please send everyone's credit information to the feds, and the Canadian version thereof (probably sitting on horses). I know I pay my taxes, and I have no worries.

Thank you,
GA

I smoke crack rocks.

I wrote Visa on this, lets see if I get some answer

One more cluster fuck from epassporte... go figure...

So if we are permitted to "blackout" sensitive data before uploading, then please do tell us what purpose uploading the copy serves ....

What is stopping somebody from taking ANY card and scanning it, and blacking out the info?

This whole "anti-fraud" process smells ... LIKE SHIT!

Which ePassporte genius thought it up I wonder? They deserve a raise!!!

I concur!

"Know Your Customer" and related regulations are laws that all financial institutions doing business in the U.S. must abide by, including Epassporte.

There is no simple answer - the U.S. population, overall, is complacent ... they don't mind being watched if it's "for their safety", and furthermore most want to be told what to do...

The U.S. government, like most any government, when left unchecked, continues to expand and further control the masses, and thus such laws, like the "Know Your Customer", are the result...

Digressed a bit, but the bottom line is that until the laws are changed, financial dealings will be ever further scrutinized...

Many banks, brokerages, eCurrency changers (ie. LondonGoldExchange), and even the U.S. Post Office have in the past couple of years, been agressively retroactively demanding ID, paperwork, etc from their current longtime customers.

Ultimately, for many people, the choice will be the lesser of the evils ... providing all sorts of paperwork to ePassporte (and services kinda like it, such as as PayPal) --or-- using a regular bank instead ... my guess is that many more people will insist on payment via ACH (direct deposit), wire, etc to their bank account...

An added benefit of using banks is they must follow many strict rules, and thus one can have confidence their money will still be there, and available for use ... unlike many third-party places, such as PayPal, that have a nasty reputation of losing funds, holding funds, lack of service, etc.

Ron

What about moneybookers is it better there?

they closed a ton of accts down
they dont like adult

I don't really see a problem with this. I did it years ago and haven't had a problem.

Only thing is the voided check ... outside the US who uses checks?? I haven't encountered checks in the course of business for well over 6-7 years. Thats a strange one.

when end the 30 days period ?
I have noticed today that information but there is no information since when they is in my account ?
how much time I have to send that scan's ?
to the end of May ?

where are these documents being held ? country/city
what kind of facility , security etc ?
who has access to these files ? americans only ?

can epassporte assure us users who have already sent in these documents that were told implicitly they would NOT have to go through this again who are now going through this all again that it wont happen again ?

yea, gee, they want
- front and back of your credit card, which has just cc # + cvv, which they already know anyway...
- a voided check... they have routing # + account # for your bank anyway...
- cc statement... just needs address + cc #, rest can be blacked out, which they already know anyway...
- drivers license... this one is a little iffy, but it's not like it's some super secret document, every place like a local bar, your landlord, library, local video rental place, even $5/hr waitress at some local dive, etc, can easily copy it too...

so guys, one week later, how is it going with the verification?

is the process running smoothly, meaning you upload documents and are verified soon after that? how long does it take?

I havent been asked for any docs yet but from my understanding, it may happen quite soon

Back up to the top for some feedback ... :thumbsup

ePassporte is only requiring this additional documentation for accounts they have, for some reason, flagged. My contact at ePassporte could not say why exactly they are flagging people, but for those of you who might have used your accounts for online gambling or haven't been reporting income on your taxes I would be really weary of sending them this info if you're asked for it... :2 cents:

Umm... I'll give you a hint why they are flagging accounts (not people):

The reason includes "$5,000 cumulative" ...
(as has already been established)

YP

I am glad I verified already in the past. Doesn't look like i'm going to have to travel through that gauntlet again.

This is a good thing though. Will make it so major banks don't blacklist epass. More banks will work with it, more credit cards will work with it.

I already verified too, and Im having to do it again along with a bunch of other people. What bothers some of us is "where did the first documents go?" And if they can't keep track of those, then why send them in again. Its not a confidence builder. Ive stood behind Epass for quite a long time, but I must admit Im a bit irked by this. To me its not that we have to send in docs to prove identity. I agree with that, its that we have to do it twice, and why weren't the docs from the first go round kept? Where are the first ones I sent in? It was less than a year ago I sent in docs and told I would not have to do it again. :Oh crap

Being an accepted payment method for online casinos in the past is a big reason why we have to go through this now.

I feel for that, but since I dont gamble it shouldnt be an issue I have to deal with. :winkwink:

epass is officially going down the shitter as we see it, most of the time customer service doesnt even give a direct answer

oh not to mention their retarded verification system, ive tried 2 different times and each time they bill my CC more then $2.00 and their form doesn't even allow you to enter a amount over $2.00

I'm approved :thumbsup!

Took me under a day. submitted em, logged in the next morning for some other reason, noticed the warning message thing gone, i was all set.

they asked me for docs too, sent it over, awaiting for a month almost, no email back. Accoutn frozen for withdrawal.

epass rocks

i got an account about a year ago. Didn't use it. When i went to use it to use the money i uploaded to it, i couldn't login. I tried emailing there customer server about 4 times and every response i got back was useless. Atleast it only cost me the minimal load amount to figure out its not worth the headache. In a business like that, customer service is the most important thing.