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Barefootsies 05-01-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14138409)
Another thing you might consider, is that they (Clips.com) have VOD theaters as well, where people pay per minute instead of downloading. I know you have a lot of content, so packing it in longer format for VOD might work for you.

Interesting suggestion.

Barefootsies 05-01-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 14138528)
right now I am doing about the same with both but it looks like clips.com will be passing the other soon.

I doubt that. But time will tell.

Boobgirl 05-01-2008 02:54 PM

Question - does it matter on the length of the clip as to the actual number of sales you may get?

Jim_Gunn 05-01-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 14138667)
Question - does it matter on the length of the clip as to the actual number of sales you may get?

I find that the scene itself or the particular screen cap matters a lot more than the clip length. I try to make mine 5 or six minutes, up to 8 or 9 minutes for the longer scenes with a few shorter clips 3 or 4 minutes if the full length scenes are shorter like for my softcore vids. But on the other hand some people think nothing of spending $30 for a single 30 minute scene.

Barefootsies 05-01-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 14138667)
Question - does it matter on the length of the clip as to the actual number of sales you may get?

No.

Better for other reasons.

Ryan St. Germain 05-01-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 14138667)
Question - does it matter on the length of the clip as to the actual number of sales you may get?

Really, it depends on what the content itself is. Non nude fetishes for instance, often sell better if they are a little longer (at least in my experience). Tickling video's sell better for me at the 10-12 minute mark, tease and denial at about the same, but forced orgasms sell better at about 7 minutes.

Barefootsies 05-01-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14139090)
Really, it depends on what the content itself is. Non nude fetishes for instance, often sell better if they are a little longer (at least in my experience). Tickling video's sell better for me at the 10-12 minute mark, tease and denial at about the same, but forced orgasms sell better at about 7 minutes.

Interesting.

Barefootsies 05-02-2008 05:49 AM

The verdict would appear that... Based on the feedback, and for those who use the single clip selling business model....

Most use C4S. Through their experimentation, store owners make significantly more through C4S than clips.com.

On the flip side, some are loyal to clips.com companies, and are content making their money there, and look to the future of possibly more money in the long run through added bonuses, or features.

danclips 05-02-2008 09:32 AM

Hey all, haven’t been on here in a while. I always suggest to anyone that is interested in adding their content to our site that they really should try to have their content in as many places that they possibly can. We never try to steer providers away from one site in favor of another. Get out there and make as much as you can. That’s why you’re in the business, right?

In the near future, we are really going to be pushing our affiliate program out through the moviedollars program so that our webmasters can start send more and more traffic through to clips.com.

If you are already a member of moviedollars and have not yet had a chance to check out the affiliate program for clips, please login to your moviedollars account and see what's available.

We've spent a lot of time over the last year on the design of the site. (Lots of new changes were just made live yesterday, check it out)

As someone mentioned above, the key to top sales on clips.com is updates. Providers that are able to update often enjoy a much higher payout every month.

As far as payments, we get all payments out between the 10th and 15th of each month.
We are processing payments for all of our webmasters, clips.com providers, and vod providers, so we have a whole lot of payments to process each month.

If anyone has questions about our affiliate programs, please feel free to contact Adam at [email protected].

And as always, if you are interested in adding content to clips.com, or just have questions about how our program works, please feel free to call me at 1-800-500-CLIP or email me at [email protected].

Dan
Clips.com
Hotmovies.com
Moviedollars.com
1-800-500-CLIP
ICQ: 241-169-479

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14141369)

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tony286 05-02-2008 04:05 PM

are there others sites with this model?

Barefootsies 05-02-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14143371)
are there others sites with this model?

I've heard others talk about some, past and present, but there really have not been any that make you the money of a C4S.

While uploading video, for me anyways, has gotten faster over the years. Uploading video for no sales would be frustrating. But.. I think independants make more money on a C4S type of model then big budget companies.

Niche fetish seems to work better then the over produced stuff. I've heard this from a few people/companies over the years. The more hardcore mainstream, the less sales they make.

But... there is a formula to clips4sale. It's not just about having goodies. You have to get exposure to your goodies versus the thousands of others now trying to get the same. A lot of factors beyond your content only.

:2 cents:

Barefootsies 05-05-2008 08:51 AM

I just checked alexa on the clips.com, clips4sale.com, and fetishclips.com.

No wonder everyone wants to be on the front page.

:winkwink:

Jim_Gunn 05-05-2008 09:08 AM

Don't sell it too hard Barefootsies, we don't need that many new studios pushing us off the front page! :-)

Barefootsies 05-05-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14151073)
Don't sell it too hard Barefootsies, we don't need that many new studios pushing us off the front page! :-)

Amen brother :winkwink:

I'm just trying to keep up with you hoss!

Andy Servers4Less 05-05-2008 09:42 AM

Do C4s and clips.com sell the rights for webmasters to use the scenes (content brokers), or just sell to end users?

Barefootsies 05-05-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Servers4Less (Post 14151255)
Do C4s and clips.com sell the rights for webmasters to use the scenes (content brokers), or just sell to end users?

I can't speak for clips.com, in regards to C4S, they are selling to the end user.

You are not licensing, or reselling to them (the company). They are little more than the store, and processor, that the product/clip/sale passes through on the way to the surfer/buyer.

Ryan St. Germain 05-05-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Servers4Less (Post 14151255)
Do C4s and clips.com sell the rights for webmasters to use the scenes (content brokers), or just sell to end users?

they both just sell to the end user.

Barefootsies 05-09-2008 07:59 AM

After signing up the clips.com to see the scoop. I see under their COMPENSATION section, and I quote, CLIP PROVIDER receives no less than 40% of the revenue of all revenue generated. Decided I would pass on that.

For those who do not manage their own stores, their percentage is much less. Plus you need to make $400 to get a wire.

Jim_Gunn 05-09-2008 08:24 AM

A 40% split for the studio owner is a lot less than the 60% split that C4S offers. I wonder if that is negotiable with your Clips affiliate rep. I don't mind paying 40% since I am mostly taking advantage of their massive traffic but frankly, I wish there was a way to keep more of that revenue for sales from the little bit of traffic that I self-generate.

Barefootsies 05-09-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14169395)
A 40% split for the studio owner is a lot less than the 60% split that C4S offers. I wonder if that is negotiable with your Clips affiliate rep. I don't mind paying 40% since I am mostly taking advantage of their massive traffic but frankly, I wish there was a way to keep more of that revenue for sales from the little bit of traffic that I self-generate.

Amen brother.

When you have good selling content, I simply feel supplying content to another site/program/vod for them to make 60-80% on your material, and break you off some crumbs under the slogan of, "it's just extra money for you", is not my cup o tea.

A 'partnership' of 60/40 (content) or even 50/50 I could see factoring in if they have traffic, and deal with BW. But not 40-15% (content owner) split

Good thing another alternative is on the horizon. Should be launching shortly. :winkwink:

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