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Old 10-12-2002, 10:56 PM   #1
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Terrorist attack

holy... fucking... hell and the US consulate

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...222664046.html


Terrorists were today blamed for a huge bomb which killed at least 171 people as it ripped through two bars packed with foreign tourists, including many Australians, on the Indonesian resort island of Bali.

The explosion completely destroyed the bars in the tourist district of Kuta and triggered an intense blaze which burned for hours as rescuers struggled to ferry scores of injured people to hospital.

Indonesian police said 171 people were killed and possibly hundreds of others injured.

Traumatised foreign tourists - many covered in blood or with horrific burn injuries - stumbled around the scene looking for loved ones or fled hotel rooms for the safety of the beaches.

Australians among casualties
Many Australians were among the casualties and Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said it appeared the blast was a terrorist attack while pointing the finger of suspicion at al-Qaeda.



No figures were available for the number of Australian killed, although Downer said at least 40 Australians were in hospitals, including 15 seriously injured.

"It is almost certain that several Australians will have been killed," Downer said.

Christine Foster, a Westerner living on Bali who went to help the victims at Sanglah hospital in Denpasar, 15km north of the bomb site, said 75 per cent of those being treated were Australian.

She told BBC television that there were many other people from "all over the world". Foster listed the other nationalities of the injured victims as Swiss, German, Swedish, American, British and Italian.

Describing the injuries, Foster said: "There's a lot of shrapnel. People are having things sewn up. There are some serious head injuries." Britain's ambassador to Jakarta, Richard Gozney, told BBC that initial reports indicated "six or seven" British nationals were injured in the blast.

Howard expresses outrage

Prime Minister John Howard today expressed the nation's outrage at what he described as a barbaric attack on innocent people in Bali.

Many Australians are feared dead among the growing toll of those killed in a blast which destroyed two bars in the Kuta Beach district overnight.

Mr Howard said on all available evidence to the federal government the bombing was clearly a terrorist attack and the war against terrorism must continue.

"I know I speak for all Australians ... in expressing a sense of outrage, sadness and horror at what occurred overnight in Bali," he told reporters in Sydney.

"The war against terrorism must go on with unrelenting vigour and an unconditional commitment."

He described the attacks as "wicked", "cowardly" and "barbaric".

Mr Howard said while the Australian death toll was not known, the nation should prepare itself for "a significant number" of Australian deaths among the fatalities.

He warned Australians not to travel to Bali until further notice.

A RAAF C130 with a medical team of seven including surgeons was due to arrive in Denpasar tonight, and could medically evacuate 30 patients.

Further aircraft would dispatched as needed, Mr Howard said.

Bars packed with Aussies
The bars were packed with Australians, many of them footballers from NSW, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia on end-of-season tours.

The blasts come just weeks after the United States reopened its diplomatic missions in Indonesia following a shutdown over the September 11 anniversary caused by fears of new attacks by the al-Qaeda network.

Shortly after the blast at around 11pm (0100 Sunday AEST) last night at the Sari Club a second bomb exploded near the honorary US consulate on the island, without causing casualties. Nobody claimed responsibility.

"There are charred and mangled bodies everywhere, it is unbelievable," said French photographer Cyril Terrien at the scene. "I have never seen such an appalling thing in my life."

Clubs destroyed
Witnesses said the blast devastated the Padi bar and the Sari Club across the street, which has a garden that is popular with young foreign tourists, and also ripped apart nearby shops and vehicles.

"We have counted 150 bodies but more are yet to be counted," said Putu Prata Wisada, a doctor at Sanglah hospital in Denpasar, some 15km north of the site.

Bali Police Chief Brigadier General Budi Setiawan told Metro TV the explosion was caused by a bomb, while a senior military official said he believed TNT was used.

Setiawan said witnesses spoke of two separate explosions, a small one followed by a more powerful one seconds later, but he declined to confirm reports it was a car bomb despite the large hole some 1.5 metres deep in the road in front of the Sari Club.

Karim Ansel, 27, from Paris, was in a restaurant around 100 metres away when he also heard two separate explosions.

'Everybody shouting and screaming'
"Everybody was shouting and screaming, there was dust all over the place. Somebody asked me if an aeroplane had fallen on top of us," said a shocked Ansel, who arrived in Bali on holiday 10 days ago.

"As I came out I saw awful, awful things. One person was absolutely covered in blood, another woman was running with her clothes burned onto her body."

About 125 casualties were ferried to Sanglah hospital and several other hospitals in Denpasar, hospital officials said.

An official at Sanglah hospital morgue who identified himself as Wayan said that most of the bodies were foreigners.

Witnesses said body parts were scattered across the site and on the roofs of surrounding buildings.

In a second incident, there was an explosion just 250 metres from the US consulate in the Denpasar suburb of Renon, Bali Police spokesman Suyatmo said.

"The blast took place on the side of the road and there was no one injured because the homemade bomb was apparently thrown and exploded some 250 metres from the US consulate general," he said.

RAAF on its way
Downer said an RAAF medical assistance and evacuation team was on its way to Bali to assist hospitals on the island which have been swamped with injured.

He said the government had been concerned about the possibility of an attack in Indonesia for some time after an organisation called Jemaah Islamiyah tried to attack Australian, British and US targets in Singapore last year.

"Jemaah Islamiyah, JI as it's known, does have links to al-Qaeda, it has financial as well as personnel links to al-Qaeda, and it's conceivable that an organisation like that could be behind this action," he said.

Bali, a postcard paradise island that is about 95 per cent Hindu, is a magnet for holiday makers from Europe, Australia and the United States.

Until now it has avoided much of the unrest that has rocked Indonesia since the fall of the Suharto regime after the 1997-98 financial crisis.

Warnings over al-Qaeda in Indonesia
The United States has issued repeated warnings in recent months over fears Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, may be home to al-Qaeda sympathisers.

After months of official denials, senior Indonesian military officials late last month said they believed al-Qaeda might have a limited network in the country.

The change in attitude coincided with the revelation that former Indonesian resident Omar al-Faruq had admitted under interrogation in US custody to being al-Qaeda's top representative in South-East Asia.

Al-Faruq, a Kuwaiti, also reportedly revealed plans to truck bomb Western embassies in Asia to mark the September 11 anniversary.

AFP

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Old 10-12-2002, 10:59 PM   #2
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i have no doubts that the al queda had something to do with it
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The Western world continues to pay the price for decades and decades of cultural and economic imperialism. This is hardly surprising.

I would, however, wait a few days to wait for some accurate figures regarding numbers of dead and injured.

With hysteria comes disinformation.
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I always wondered, what is al queda trying to accomplish?
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The Western world continues to pay the price for decades and decades of cultural and economic imperialism. This is hardly surprising.

I would, however, wait a few days to wait for some accurate figures regarding numbers of dead and injured.

With hysteria comes disinformation.
Blah blah blah. If you're so concerned about people in the middle east. Why don't you do something about it? How much money have you donated? How many refugees have you offered to take into your home? Put up, or shut the fuck up.
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Blah blah blah. If you're so concerned about people in the middle east. Why don't you do something about it? How much money have you donated? How many refugees have you offered to take into your home? Put up, or shut the fuck up.
If you play with matches you have to be prepared to get burnt.
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The Western world continues to pay the price for decades and decades of cultural and economic imperialism. This is hardly surprising.

I would, however, wait a few days to wait for some accurate figures regarding numbers of dead and injured.

With hysteria comes disinformation.
Some indonesians are pissed at us because of timor, and with the crash of their economy there is fertile grounds for islamic fundamentalism..
Bali is the offical aussie holiday destination.. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 30-40 aussies in the casualites..
i know it might be a case of high death counts in the initial hysteria, but theres not that many people to have to "count" if they counted around 150 bodies plus the guys that died in hospital im sure it's not going to be far off...
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Some indonesians are pissed at us because of timor, and with the crash of their economy there is fertile grounds for islamic fundamentalism..
Bali is the offical aussie holiday destination.. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 30-40 aussies in the casualites..
i know it might be a case of high death counts in the initial hysteria, but theres not that many people to have to "count" if they counted around 150 bodies plus the guys that died in hospital im sure it's not going to be far off...
Indonesia is a muslim country. If it was a terrorist act by muslim extremists then surely this was to be expected considering Bali is one of the few spots in Indonesia known for international tourism.
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Indonesia is a muslim country. If it was a terrorist act by muslim extremists then surely this was to be expected considering Bali is one of the few spots in Indonesia known for international tourism.
of course.. theres no fucking way you would have got me there after s/11.. we've been warned - we know there are terrorist groups operating there... we know they're pissed at us.. kinda why im annoyed howard is posturing about events on the other side of the planet when our own backyard is in question.. we;ve got a lot more to fear from Indonesia than Iraq.
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I always wondered, what is al queda trying to accomplish?
What were the Bader-Mienhof and Red September gangs trying to accomplish?

Al Queda are puppets of people who want to rule the Arab oil and Bush is playing straight into their hands. Does he think that by going to war with Iraq the Muslims will just give up and say sorry?

9/11 was not the start, it started a long time before. One terrorist gets what he wants and the next thing you have two terrorists. Be they Israeli, Irish or Muslim.
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well there goes the bali economy....
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Well I guess we need to show those terrorists "we mean business" hehe -- whatever that means.
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of course.. theres no fucking way you would have got me there after s/11.. we've been warned - we know there are terrorist groups operating there... we know they're pissed at us.. kinda why im annoyed howard is posturing about events on the other side of the planet when our own backyard is in question.. we;ve got a lot more to fear from Indonesia than Iraq.
Howard is the worst PM we've had since ummm... geez, a long fucking time.

We have no beef with Iraq, Howard is just licking Bush's nutsack. Personally I don't think Saddam is capable of organising a piss up in a brothel.

International sanctions have brought Iraq to its knees. The Iraq thing is about oil.

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Well I guess we need to show those terrorists "we mean business" hehe -- whatever that means.
australia will bomb indonesia into the stone age?
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Al Queda are puppets of people who want to rule the Arab oil
What led you to make that deduction?

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and Bush is playing straight into their hands.
What led you to make that deduction?

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Does he think that by going to war with Iraq the Muslims will just give up and say sorry?
Which Muslims are you speaking about?

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This begs the question again. What does a terrorist want? In addition, what terrorist has gotten what he/she wanted?
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Little problem half way down CNN's article.

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Once again, we learn that muslims are dirty scum.

I wouldn't have thought that they would bomb a nightclub in Bali, damn, I was considering a trip there too! FUCK THAT!!!

I'm going to Fiji instead!
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Indonesia is a muslim country. If it was a terrorist act by muslim extremists then surely this was to be expected considering Bali is one of the few spots in Indonesia known for international tourism.

WAS known for international tourism.


The Bali tourist industry just ended, permanently!
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it's saying "180 dead - the majority australians on the news"
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The Bali tourist industry just ended, permanently!

Yeah, but think of all the deals you could get now! Cheap! Cheap!
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I always wondered, what is al queda trying to accomplish?
Their stated goal is they want the US to stop it's policy of unconditional support for Israel.
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Yeah, but think of all the deals you could get now! Cheap! Cheap!
It was cheap to begin with... thats why it was so popular.
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Their stated goal is they want the US to stop it's policy of unconditional support for Israel.
The Israel thing is an aside that was added relatively recently.
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A number of Australian footballers were part of a crowd of several hundred people, most of whom were Australians.

"Not just our football club. I know there were boys from Geelong there, Geelong AFL club, I know there were a few other AFL teams floating around as well, there were some rugby boys," Mr Quayle said.

"The place was packed, and it went up within a millisecond.

"I reckon the place probably had 300 people in there, maybe even more, and probably 250 of them were probably Aussies."


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The Israel thing is an aside that was added relatively recently.
I was going by:
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"Ramzi Yousef, the convicted mastermind of the 1993 bombing at New York's World Trade Center, was to be sentenced Thursday and could receive a maximum term of life in prison without parole. The attack killed six people and injured more than 1,000.

After three days of deliberation in November, a federal jury convicted Yousef and Eyad Ismoil on murder and conspiracy charges for their roles in a plot by Islamic extremists to topple the trade center's two 110-story towers to punish the United States for its support of Israel."



What was their stated goal before this?
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The Western world continues to pay the price for decades and decades of cultural and economic imperialism. This is hardly surprising.

I would, however, wait a few days to wait for some accurate figures regarding numbers of dead and injured.

With hysteria comes disinformation.
Yeah, well, no doubt this act may have killed even more Indonesians than Australians, so if it is Al Qaeda, they are not very good at public relations.
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Yeah, well, no doubt this act may have killed even more Indonesians than Australians, so if it is Al Qaeda, they are not very good at public relations.
no - it was a club full of foreigners.. whilst bali is part of Indonesia, it's 95% hindu.. im sure the collateral muslim damage was small, and im sure that muslim indonesians aren't fond of the hindu's, who like the chinese in indonesia are the merchant/business class.. even the destroying of the bali economy is probably not much of a issue for them.
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Yeah, well, no doubt this act may have killed even more Indonesians than Australians, so if it is Al Qaeda, they are not very good at public relations.


Death toll soars in Bali blast
A huge bomb blast at a tourist resort in Indonesia kills at least 180 people, mainly foreigners, in what police call an "act of terror".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/
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Muslims probably hate that Bali is known as a place for partying, drinking, girls, fun, sex, etc... all that stuff is taboo for muslims.

Allah wouldn't approve of Bali
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Muslims probably hate that Bali is known as a place for partying, drinking, girls, fun, sex, etc... all that stuff is taboo for muslims.

Allah wouldn't approve of Bali
How about Jesus?
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From the positive side, i was planing on going there soon...its going to be dirt cheap...
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From the positive side, i was planing on going there soon...its going to be dirt cheap...
Yeah, thats what I said, but you're gonna be all alone. No hot sluts there to party with.
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Yeah, thats what I said, but you're gonna be all alone. No hot sluts there to party with.
yes but think of all the indonesian sluts that don't have any foreigners to party with...
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yes but think of all the indonesian sluts that don't have any foreigners to party with...
yeah and think about all the awesome STDs you'll get from those dirty bitches!

no thank you!

Go to this island resort instead -------> http://www.contiki.com/resorts/home.asp
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:03 AM   #40
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Check this out:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapc...tas/index.html

You can almost hear the tourist money being sucked out of that country. This is going to destroy their economy.
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:12 AM   #41
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The target of the attack was foriegners, a second bomb went off at a nearby US consulate as well as one in the philipines.

The australian media is jumping on this because there hasnt been a story big enough to lift there ratings in months.

or if you want to run with a conspiracy theory (I don't personally believe this) ASIO planted the bomb to increase australians support for sending troops to Iraq.
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:17 AM   #42
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bali
where the fuck is bali???
is that ballet??
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That must have been one huge fuckin bomb to kill that many people. Even the most successful suicide bombers in Isreal usually only manage to kill about 25 people.

and whats up with that bomb in Finland yesterday too?
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:20 AM   #44
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bali
where the fuck is bali???
is that ballet??
Bali is a HUGE party destination in Indonesia. Its like Cancun or Ibiza.
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:21 AM   #45
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Bali is similar to Indonesia? Really??? I'm definetly going to look into this when I wake up tomorrow... (provided of course that this thead is still on the first page)
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:23 AM   #46
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bali
where the fuck is bali???
is that ballet??
I know you're not American but I couldn't help myself. You are North American after all. I also know it's been posted before but it still makes me laugh.

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In the two years since Bush took office, there've been a lot of explosions and a lot of people dying. The next two years should be lots of fun.
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Old 10-13-2002, 01:48 AM   #48
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That must have been one huge fuckin bomb to kill that many people. Even the most successful suicide bombers in Isreal usually only manage to kill about 25 people.
Car bomb outside a packed nightclub, nowhere to hide
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Wonder what the Australians will do?
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Wonder what the Australians will do?
No "Crocodile Hunter" for a whole month for those naughty muslims!

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