To most of you shooting in HD - it looks like shit.

We picked up a Canon HV-30 last week and after shooting a few scenes on it I have to say the quality is fucking amazing compared to our GL2... Most the scenes were shot outdoors in natural sunlight though so no idea how it'll work under lower light situations.

That is impressive. If it can keep this level of quality at true HD sizes and b/w requirements this is huge.
I'd like to learn more about this for my clients so whoever deals with this technology directly please contact me.
Thanks!

Bryan L is the man to talk to. But if you want some other demo vids hit me up icq and email are in sig. I dont work for cavecreek but glad to explain it all more for you.

That is saying a lot as I loved shooting your wedding with the GL2. Have an HV10 and Xha1 canon. Love em both.

Appreciate that, Ryan, thank you.
I'd like somebody to show me pricing structures, technical requirements, and go into details of how this could be implemented on an existing site's infrastructure.

I'll hit you up to check out your vids as well.

Thanks!

COMPLETELY agree. It may just be because I'm a girl and thus am more bitchy/superficial/catty/whatever, but it always bothers me when I'm looking through content and see ass pimples, scars, uneven skintones, etc etc... and HD makes it so much worse.

Well the benefit being higher quality girls to shoot.

I said it before and say it again: if done properly, pimples and wrinkles are not an issue even in HD.

bump......its wateva

I guess I'll be the first to say 95% of you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Let me first state the obvious; Yes, HD is the future. Yes, connections will get faster. Yes, 720p is considered "high def", and 1920x1080 interlaced is considered high definition as well. And yes, consumers will demand higher resolution.

To the nay-sayers that are saying porn shouldn't be high def because porn-sluts don't look good in high resolution, you are completely and utterly stupid and I'll say keep it up, because I'll have the sales / retention that you will never see.

Where is the logic in saying low resolution content is better because you see less flaws in the model? You don't seriously believe that, do you?

Oh well, I couldn't really care less I suppose... keep on believing that. Ignorance is bliss.

I guess that's why I love GFY. Because deep down, I really love retards.

Without question it is the future because everyone wants to shoot in HD now. And yes, speeds are getting faster in some parts of the world so the video will be able to be accessed better in the future.

With that said, I don't think porn should stay in SD because of flaws. What I said is too many of you have moved from SD, where your content looked great, to HD and now it looks like ass.

What I also said is, it doesn't matter the format as long as it's hot. I've seen hotter videos from cell phones than just about any "pro" sites on the net. Why? Because it's real. Real sex, hot sex and a good fantasy will always prevail over the latest gadgets and formats.

If the quality of the image counted to the surfer Tube sites would not be getting any traffic at all. OK they only get it because it's free, but you miss the point. The millions of surfers on Tube sites do not see the point of paying for a brilliantly clear image of porn that's shot by a guy who's more interested in the techie shit than the porno.

Most people selling porn on the Internet are webmasters, few are porn consumers and fewer even understand why the members that do sign are paying for it when so much is free. Talking for 4 pages on the merits or problems of a HD image shows how much you guys know about the reasons people pay for porn. And until you understand that you will be left trying to sell the same old shit, just in HD instead of SD and left trying to persuade more webmasters affiliates to send more traffic to more sites that miss out on what makes the guy sign up.

Someone told me something in the beginning of my sales career that still rings true. Empathy with the buyer is the key to selling. And I'm sure most of you have heard me say "Vegetarians make bad butchers."

It does not matter a flying fuck to the surfer if it's in HD, SD or any fucking D. It matters if it stokes his imagination enough to make him want to join THIS site. Start understanding that and you start empathising with the surfer. Yesterday was about sending as much traffic as possible, tomorrow will be about converting it. Having mediocre porn in HD is not going to cut it.

If the quality of the image mattered to the porn consumer then Playboy, Penthouse and other top class mags would of out sold the middle and lower range ones. They never ever did. The same goes for videos, cable and Internet porn. The quality of the image that sells porn is the quality of the image in the viewers imagination. Get that right and you sell over and over again.

Shame you didn't invent the ability to shut the fuck up.

But when the guy creating it is a techie and thinks the quality of the image, the lighting, the speed and other thing that gets a techie's dick are the most important things then he will go for that.

If the main reason you have for selling a site is the clarity of the image you really have lost the plot as far as the surfer is concerned. It's irrelevant to the general porn buyer. Maybe us concentrating on things that impressed us have been the main reason we find it so hard to sell.

xenigo I really truly, whole hearted, 101% wish you were right. I would love this to be right. In fact I'm getting a hard on dreaming that you have it right. LOL

But we all know the consumer does not demand this and we know you are saying it to influence webmasters not surfers. Because if you were right it would be great for us. Tubes can't deliver the quality you tell us the consumer demands. It's really that simple. Tubes are collecting traffic like nothing, crap shit product that the consumer will put up with, jerk off to and move on. If you were right and the consumer demanded HD Tubes would be losing traffic. A surfer does not need HD to jerk off never did, never will and sadly never going to need it. AND I do mean sadly because the simplest way to make millions would be we all move to HD.

Reasons why a surfer becomes a member.
The sample he saw triggered something in his imagination that told him he needed to see more.
The site he went to satisfied him it has the porn he loves in sufficient quantity to warrant spending money.

Getting those two right are tough and why so many of you think traffic is the key. Along with getting the image in HD.

I am not boasting that our content does either.

The consumer will demand this in the future. They may not right this second, but to try to convince yourself otherwise is incredibly short-sighted. When I'm watching a SD signal of a television show, and I know there's an HD version, I flip it to the HD version.

Everyone I know does the same thing. I don't buy DVD's anymore, I buy Blu-Ray discs. There is no way a consumer will choose a low-def version over a high-def version of something that's essentially the same.

Porn is no different.