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quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 01:04 PM

i am confused about the origins of reality porn.

who pioneered it? i am confused. i was sure it was seymore butts and then shane from shanes world with seymore.

chri$tian · 04-16-2008, 01:06 PM

I would say seymore too, he definitely was the first i can remember to think outside that box (get it, BOX, lol) hehe

quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 01:07 PM

half the sites called reality are not in fact reality. they are gonzo. setups with fucking. not reality. maybe that is why i'm confused.

fris · 04-16-2008, 01:09 PM

Bangbus had a big say

quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 01:09 PM

call a duck a duck, not a swan.

Kard63 · 04-16-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by quesadilla

half the sites called reality are not in fact reality. they are gonzo. setups with fucking. not reality. maybe that is why i'm confused.

Half? Did you say half? Seriously, half?

Socks · 04-16-2008, 01:09 PM

To me, the first real reality site was RealButts. It was the first place to get large episode style scenes as full length videos, and they pretty much introduced the Sybian to the world. Then it all went from there, I think their next venture at that point was Boob Squad.

J. Falcon · 04-16-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

Bangbus had a big say

Most definitely.

just a punk · 04-16-2008, 01:10 PM

Bangbus IMHO

stickyfingerz · 04-16-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

Bangbus had a big say

Thats who comes to mind for me also.

MJ_AVN · 04-16-2008, 01:13 PM

Jamie Gillis - On the Prowl - is widely considered the beginning of the reality genre (at least away from this forum). It was the influence for much of what followed, like Little Richard influenced Elvis.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gillis

Martin · 04-16-2008, 01:13 PM

BangBus was the first popular reality site. That got the ball rolling for sure.

quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 01:18 PM

reality porn. not reality websites.

reality porn is where the reality websites of today got their ideas, but just didn't do them exactly right to reality standards.

bangbus is the best reality site, yes.

jakethedog · 04-16-2008, 01:19 PM

BWHAHAHAHA... you guys are all to young ...
"Steve Sweet" pioneered it with sweetloads and then sweet auditions .. everything I can think of since has been a copy in someway or another .. so in an essence me .. lol.. for being his executive producer for 9 years ..

quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 01:28 PM

steve sweet was a POV pioneer. more proof that people don't know what reality porn is.

what is reality about a guy pissing on a girls face?

thats a gonzo microniche.

marcop · 04-16-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

BWHAHAHAHA... you guys are all to young ...
"Steve Sweet" pioneered it with sweetloads and then sweet auditions .. everything I can think of since has been a copy in someway or another .. so in an essence me .. lol.. for being his executive producer for 9 years ..

Not so fast... What Ed Powers was doing in the late '80's with his Bus Stop Tales and Dirty Debutantes series was reality porn. And Mitch Spinelli did a series of movies in the early/mid 80's called Reel People. And I bet there were producers even before that doing what could be called reality porn. It didn't all begin with BangBus or Steve Sweet.

munki · 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM

Net Video Girls made some waves back in the early net days...

J. Falcon · 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM

One of the first and absolute best ever adult reality sites was BackroomFacials.com

Never seen "audition" porn done that well ever again. Spawned countless cheap imitations.

seeric · 04-16-2008, 01:53 PM

you're a fucking idiot who cares!

marcop · 04-16-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

you're a fucking idiot who cares!

Hey, I thought you were banned . . . .

TheAmericanCannibal · 04-16-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

Jamie Gillis - On the Prowl - is widely considered the beginning of the reality genre (at least away from this forum). It was the influence for much of what followed, like Little Richard influenced Elvis.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gillis

That is 100% correct!

He went to adult bookstores with whores and got normal, real, customers to fuck them.
It was one of my favorite series ever.

tony286 · 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM

Dirty Debutantes

Snake Doctor · 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM

Ed Powers.

Back when all porn video was on VHS (or filmstrip).

CarolCox · 04-16-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

BWHAHAHAHA... you guys are all to young ...
"Steve Sweet" pioneered it with sweetloads and then sweet auditions .. everything I can think of since has been a copy in someway or another .. so in an essence me .. lol.. for being his executive producer for 9 years ..

The Sweet's got the idea for Sweet Auditions from our PornAudition.com website that Dugmor ran from our downtown studios.

But for the first reality, you also have to think of the original Homegrown Video series from over 20 years ago. Next to that, I would also say Ed Powers for video.

You can't forget Al Goldstein and Screw magazine from back in the 1970's. He had that along with his cable access TV show that was all crazy reality ;)

Carol xoxoxo

marcop · 04-16-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolCox

You can't forget Al Goldstein and Screw magazine from back in the 1970's. He had that along with his cable access TV show that was all crazy reality ;)

Carol xoxoxo

You just reminded me about Ugly George, who prowled the streets of New York in the late 70's and early 80's trying to get girls to show some flesh, and even suck and fuck him. I'd see him sometimes at lunchtimes on 57th Street and 7th Avenue when I worked near Central Park in 1982/3. His footage was shown on some late night cable show.

RyuLion · 04-16-2008, 02:39 PM

tranza · 04-16-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Ed Powers.

Back when all porn video was on VHS (or filmstrip).

Hell yeah! I loved his stuff!!

wargames · 04-16-2008, 03:14 PM

Bang Bus

tony286 · 04-16-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

You just reminded me about Ugly George, who prowled the streets of New York in the late 70's and early 80's trying to get girls to show some flesh, and even suck and fuck him. I'd see him sometimes at lunchtimes on 57th Street and 7th Avenue when I worked near Central Park in 1982/3. His footage was shown on some late night cable show.

I forgot about ugly George he is probably the first.

tony286 · 04-16-2008, 03:17 PM

boy george is real old school still. lol
http://www.uglygeorge.com/form.htm

jigga · 04-16-2008, 03:17 PM

the first one that I saw online I believe was called "california pimp".

Bang Bus took it to a new level and made it mainstream online with oxcash and nastydollars (milf hunter).

quesadilla · 04-16-2008, 03:57 PM

oh jesus, i give up. let this thread die.

CarolCox · 04-16-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

You just reminded me about Ugly George,

Yes, I had totally forgotten about Ugly George! He made Goldstein look like a preacher ;)

Carol xoxoxo

jakethedog · 04-16-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

Not so fast... What Ed Powers was doing in the late '80's with his Bus Stop Tales and Dirty Debutantes series was reality porn. And Mitch Spinelli did a series of movies in the early/mid 80's called Reel People. And I bet there were producers even before that doing what could be called reality porn. It didn't all begin with BangBus or Steve Sweet.

Oh i remember ole' Ed and his ventures .. but Eds models with Dirty Debutantes were actual adult film models who had done other productions in the past .. and were breaking into the biz with a few films/videos under their belts ..
I was personally there when 99% of the models that walked through the door went directly to Steve's office and were "interviewed" and absolutely no shitting anyone... there were woman who answered our ads with 100% the wrong idea of what we were doing that still stayed and did the scene .. I am not proud of it .. but he had a "unique" ability in which he would walk up to a girl on the street and in 2 hours she was in the office .. never in her life thinking she would be involved in an adult production .. ALL reactions and dialogs between Steve and the females are 100% genuine and albeit shocking and raw .. they are 100% real ....

jakethedog · 04-16-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolCox

The Sweet's got the idea for Sweet Auditions from our PornAudition.com website that Dugmor ran from our downtown studios.

But for the first reality, you also have to think of the original Homegrown Video series from over 20 years ago. Next to that, I would also say Ed Powers for video.

You can't forget Al Goldstein and Screw magazine from back in the 1970's. He had that along with his cable access TV show that was all crazy reality ;)

Carol xoxoxo

Steve actually had "sweetloads" which was before porn auditions and was distributed on VHS very possibly where porn auditions came from sweetauditions (which i performed in dozens and dozens of time by the way) was the same as sweetloads .... Hell I will message Dugmor tonight and ask .. lol

as for homegrown and the others mentioned .. all are/were awesome content and instrumental in porn going to the net .. I am more talking about the way people are suggesting bangbus and these type reality sites started ..

crockett · 04-16-2008, 04:54 PM

Bangbus on the web, but in reality haven't there almost always been "reality" type porn? i mean how many fake plumers, pizza guys or mail men were in porn flicks long before the web. Wouldn't you have to kinda say that stuff was reality porn but it just didn't have a name?

Fap · 04-16-2008, 04:59 PM

I think it might have been me.

marcop · 04-16-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

Oh i remember ole' Ed and his ventures .. but Eds models with Dirty Debutantes were actual adult film models who had done other productions in the past .. and were breaking into the biz with a few films/videos under their belts ..

I beg to differ: Ed's thing was he got girls' first scenes, and he paid agents extra to get those first scenes--I know this because I share an office with an agent who did a lot of business with Ed. A lot of those girls did very little more porn work because Ed would tell them horror stories about other directors (think Max Hardcore). Of course, some girls went on to be pretty big... think Krysti Myst or Katie Morgan to name just two.

And I'm not dissing Steve Sweet here, I LOVED the SweetLoads series and website, and thought he was awesome. Whatever happened to him? Is he still out terrorizing unsuspecting young women? Or did he get married and move the the suburbs?

On reflection, I'm not sure if it's really fair to compare Steve Sweet to Ed Powers as their products were so different. But I think it would be fair to put both of them in the reality porn category.

abyss_al · 04-16-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

Bangbus had a big say

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

One of the first and absolute best ever adult reality sites was BackroomFacials.com

Never seen "audition" porn done that well ever again. Spawned countless cheap imitations.

THEEEEE best site ever!!

(please bring it back.. bring him back.... hehe)

CarolCox · 04-16-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

Steve actually had "sweetloads" which was before porn auditions and was distributed on VHS very possibly where porn auditions came from sweetauditions (which i performed in dozens and dozens of time by the way) was the same as sweetloads .... Hell I will message Dugmor tonight and ask .. lol

We used to have a partnership with Trans-Video here in Montreal, and they had the rights to all the original STP (pre-Sweet Entertainment) videos back when they were first released.

The PornAudition idea came from my own website as I did Auditions with fans (the Casting Couch section) starting in 1995. I didn't have a members area at that time and used the free area of my website to sell the videos we produced. All main order and extremely lucrative. When Dugmor came on board back in 1999, we started the separate PornAudition.com website.

Back in 1995 and 1996 there were a bunch of websites doing similar things, and all for fun and free, or to sell VHS copies of the content. Many of the first Amateur websites were just Reality Porn sites that people did just for fun.

J. Falcon · 04-16-2008, 08:33 PM

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THEEEEE best site ever!!

(please bring it back.. bring him back.... hehe)

It did kick ass.

Zorgman · 04-16-2008, 08:40 PM

When did Milf Hunter go online? I asume after Bang Bus.

Matt 26z · 04-16-2008, 08:54 PM

How far back do casting couch scenes go? They certainly qualify as reality porn.

Now if you are talking about "staged reality" porn with convincing writing and acting with over the top storylines, maybe BangBus is it.

But if you are talking about legit reality porn, then maybe that is the first live cam sites.

rhon23 · 04-16-2008, 08:56 PM

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the first one that I saw online I believe was called "california pimp".

Bang Bus took it to a new level and made it mainstream online with oxcash and nastydollars (milf hunter).

netvideogirls and californiapimp were the same guy same site. And yeah he was up there with one of the first reality style pov sites.

arial · 04-16-2008, 08:57 PM

The guy from The Girl Next Door

MaDalton · 04-16-2008, 09:46 PM

Bang Bus for the internet i'd say - at least thats the first thing i could think of

but on VHS i remember lots of stuff from the 80ies about picking up girls on the streets - very popular here in germany

Sebastian Sands · 04-16-2008, 09:56 PM

Randy West with his Up and Cummers series. He discovered some real big names. And shot Jenna's first BG and GG

tony286 · 04-16-2008, 10:04 PM

The early DD's ed they weren't porn models, they were girls Ed picked up. Like his bus stop series before DD

Jai · 04-16-2008, 10:27 PM

BANGBUS 4 sure

Porno Dan · 04-16-2008, 10:27 PM

"Reality Porn?"

I might the only loser who brings out stacks of cash and model releases, tries to get girls to fuck on camera, suceeds at the times, and films it.

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quesadilla Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 360	half the sites called reality are not in fact reality. they are gonzo. setups with fucking. not reality. maybe that is why i'm confused.

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quesadilla Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 360	reality porn. not reality websites. reality porn is where the reality websites of today got their ideas, but just didn't do them exactly right to reality standards. bangbus is the best reality site, yes.

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quesadilla Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 360	steve sweet was a POV pioneer. more proof that people don't know what reality porn is. what is reality about a guy pissing on a girls face? thats a gonzo microniche.

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