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Stagg Chilli is the best thing in a can to come out of America. |
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the one true benefit of mediocrity :thumbsup |
Yes, Dragon. You're a genius. I live in America. We call our country America and the source of that is other Americans.
Next thing you'll tell me the Mexicans can't say themselves Mehicans anymore. You think your terminology for countries is superior to the people that actually live there? |
Omfg, a good sign that we are out of arguments...now it`s down to "my dick is bigger than yours"...
How `bout we stop this discussion before we get REALLY nasty and personal, eh? Cheers! :drinkup |
To refer to something as something else is fine, unless it's directly conflicting with something else. By your logic, we could call the planet we live on THE UNIVERSE! Hey if everyone starts calling it that, IT MUST BE CORRECT! Wrong. The earth is NOT the universe. And the USA is NOT America. We can call it that for ease sure, but the fact is, it is simply NOT that.
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I've never been there. I'm in it for the money. Australian porn companies = good money. |
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there is a riddle for you fuckers. what kind of cock do I like, if it is attached to 3 balls? :) |
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Guys who play soccer with their dicks?
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Colin:
*You're mistaken. You can't fathom the fact that the citizens of a country called the "United States of America" would refer to itself as America. This all because the continents have the same name.* DUH??? What "continents" have the same name? There is only one! The US is made up of a bundle of assorted "states" - that is not America! There is MUCH more to America than the US :-) Mmm.. geography???:Graucho |
Sorry, I meant America. Guys who play America with their dicks.
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To refer to something as something else is fine, unless it's directly conflicting with something else. By your logic, we could call the planet we live on THE UNIVERSE! Hey if everyone starts calling it that, IT MUST BE CORRECT! Wrong. The earth is NOT the universe. And the USA is NOT America. We can call it that for ease sure, but the fact is, it is simply NOT that.
---------- Nice in principle. Maybe the way you want the world to work, but it doesn't. Language is ambiguous and you have to often determine meaning from context. When I say South Africa do I mean the country or Southern Africa? When I say "pet", do I mean Playmate, dog, or the verb (to pet)? |
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I would assume that the only nationality buying penis pills is American.
First, only American man believes in such bullshit and second, only American man finds himself so helpless in front of the mirror Correct me if I'm wrong, penis pill entrepreneurs |
*You're mistaken. You can't fathom the fact that the citizens of a country called the "United States of America" would refer to itself as America. This all because the continents have the same name.*
DUH??? What "continents" have the same name? There is only one! The US is made up of a bundle of assorted "states" - that is not America! ------------- *Sigh*. Let me go a little slower. The continents I refer to are North and South America. It is TWO continents. Not one! They both have the name "America" in them but neither is called America by itself. "America" is what Americans (USA) often call their country. If you don't like it, we'll bomb you (or beat you in basketball if you prefer). |
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Have you ever seen Pluto?
What'd you think of when I asked that, the cartoon dog or the planet? Guess neither one should have been named Pluto since it was already the name for the god of the Underworld. |
Sheesh!!:Graucho
Oh shit.. I gotta go! Ain't got time to dicuss the "USA" *g* - but sure ain't "America"! Mmmm.. noticed the "bomb" thought was before the basketball?... Mmm.. reckon the idiot President has that impulse as well! Peace to all!! PS.. We all need to try some of em peace pills for a while! |
Err, correct me if I'm wrong, but you just contradicted yourself.
When you say America, do you mean North America, South America, the United Staes of America? In fact, there was NO real context. Look at the topic "You judge America" - where's the context in that? If you had said, America is looks like it's going to war with Iraq, then we'd instantly realise you meant the USA since they're the only America related "thing" that relates to the context. But your context there contained no obvious clues as to which America you were referring to. Of course, we all realised what you meant seeing as the USA is so often referred to as America. But the fact is, the USA is NOT America, and nothing in the context could have referred to it as such. This argument won't end. |
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WOT'S WEBSTER?? *G* Gotta get back later and see the volume of never ending posts! |
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Colin,
You usually post more intelligent things than what you posted in this thread. America is NOT the United states. conventional long form: United States of America conventional short form: United States abbreviation: US or USA Just because you refer to the United States as America doesn't make it correct. |
"Look at the topic "You judge America" - where's the context in that?
But your context there contained no obvious clues as to which America you were referring to. Of course, we all realised what you meant seeing as the USA is so often referred to as America." In this case, the context was very clear. I said "You judge America". Arguments regarding America (USA if you're confused) are all over this board. If you read this board regularly, the board itself is the context. --------------------- "But the fact is, the USA is NOT America, and nothing in the context could have referred to it as such." Well, here in America we call ourselves "Americans" and don't seem to ever get confused. OK, again you think you can determine for a whole country what they call themselves. You will surely feel the wrath of Pluto for your sins. Repent, sinner! |
Ok so here in Australia, if everyone does it, we can call ourselves America? Or maybe we can call ourselves Germany? Or Mars. And because everyone in the country calls it that, it becomes true no matter what it conflicts with.
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You usually post more intelligent things than what you posted in this thread.
America is NOT the United states. conventional long form: United States of America conventional short form: United States abbreviation: US or USA ------------------ I didn't invent the language, I speak it. From "The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language": A·mer·i·ca 1. The United States. |
12clicks,
Is having money the ultimate element of being a respectful individual? There are enough idiots on this planet with money but without intelligence of any substance. I shall wait for one of the traditional 12clicks responses. |
Ok so here in Australia, if everyone does it, we can call ourselves America? Or maybe we can call ourselves Germany? Or Mars. And because everyone in the country calls it that, it becomes true no matter what it conflicts with.
---------------------- Well, yes, it actually does work that way. New words appear all the time in language and often the new meanings conflict with old ones. If usage of a word becomes popular enough, it begins to appear in dictionaries and becomes accepted as common usage. People here have been calling themselves "Americans" for a very long time and have also refered to our country as "America" for a very long time. It's even in our dictionaries. We don't however refer to our country as "The States" and we wish you would stop it. |
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How can you take him seriously? Look at that fashion sense, beer gut and charming receeding hairline. :1orglaugh |
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This board uses text, not speech if I am not mistaken. I am surprised that a writer like yourself does not find it important to be clear at all times for different types of readers from several nations and cultures about what you are referring to. |
The fact that the definition of America in dictionaries includes the United States of America is because so many people call the USA America. Dictionaries will obviously put that in so that people will understand what people mean by America in conversation.
It doesn't changes my point. Hell, if the whole world started calling a chair a poopoobumbumthingy for years, it'd be put into a dictionary as well. English has been warped over the years to accommodate the stupidity of people speaking it incorrectly. America does not mean the USA, period. Everyone will keep using America in place of the USA (including me) but the fact still remains that it is not. |
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You speak it, yes - but you cannot refer to The United States of America by using the word
"America" in any written context. This board uses text, not speech if I am not mistaken. I am surprised that a writer like yourself does not find it important to be clear at all times for different types of readers from several nations and cultures about what you are referring to. --------------- Hmmmmm ... THESE writers are speaking of the country, not the two continents... "America makes prodigious mistakes" - ee cummings. "America is hard to see. Less partial witnesses than he In book on book have testified They could not see it from outside...." - Robert Frost "America, I've given you all and now I'm nothing." - Allen Ginsberg "America was indebted to immigration for her settlement and prosperity." - James Madison "America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen, but, I am afraid, it is not going to be a success." - Sigmund Freud "America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." - John Updike Should I go on? |
"The fact that the definition of America in dictionaries includes the United States of America is because so many people call the USA America."
Yes, true. Dictionaries reflect the language people use, they don't make it. There is no book, god, or committee making language. It evolves according to the traditions of those using it. LONG LIVE AMERICA! |
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"America is a hurricane, and the only people who do not hear the sound are those fortunate if incredibly stupid and smug White Protestants who live in the center, in the serene eye of the big wind." - Norman Mailer Or how about ... "America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization." - Georges Clemenceau (French statesman). More? "America is a young country with an old mentality" - George Santayana |
So how can we then define anything in a language as being correct or incorrect? Why do we take English classes if our English language is evolving the same way fashion or music is? Somewhere along the lines we HAVE to govern what is, and what is not correct.
The general rules of logic can be used to realise that America does not mean the USA - why not South America? Why not North America? Why not Latin America? |
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"So how can we then define anything in a language as being correct or incorrect? Why do we take English classes if our English language is evolving the same way fashion or music is? Somewhere along the lines we HAVE to govern what is, and what is not correct."
Well, it is a bit of a problem. Tried reading Shakespeare lately? The language changed quite a bit in the last 400 years and it hasn't stopped. No one has to govern anything. Language needs to be free to change to best describe the environment of it's speakers. After all, English is just German with 1500 years of social evolution. |
"I don't see what these quotes have to do with my post?"
You said "you cannot refer to The United States of America by using the word "America" in any written context." Many people have. I gave examples. ------------- "I am surprised that a writer like yourself does not find it important to be clear at all times for different types of readers from several nations and cultures about what you are referring to." I would agree with you if clarity were my goal today. It is not. I have had no moments of clarity today. |
Well by your logic then Colin, all English should ceased to be taught in schools. English teachers wouldn't be able to mark assignments since nothing can be defined as being correct or incorrect.
Obviously, your logic is flawed. Any English scholar could point out to you that you cannot refer to the USA as America and have correct English. |
"Obviously, your logic is flawed. Any English scholar could point out to you that you cannot refer to the USA as America and have correct English."
Hahaha. Read the quotes above. ee cummings, Robert Frost, John Updike. These are writers - better authorities than ANY english scholar. You're wrong anyway. --------------------------------- "Well by your logic then Colin, all English should ceased to be taught in schools. English teachers wouldn't be able to mark assignments since nothing can be defined as being correct or incorrect. " No,. Current English is taught in classes. There are no English language rules set in stone (Well, read Chomsky for some interesting stuff on that. Some thigns may be Universal). No vocabulary, rules, nothing. It constantly changes. Ask a group of English professors whether "ain't" is correct english or not. Some will say yes. Some will say no. Some will say it has advanced to above the level of slang now. |
Colin, plz use the "quote" button
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