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Anthony 04-10-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 14052409)
Milan,

Dude, I'm tired. Are you just trying to push my buttons? Those aren't real questions and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am simply giving marketing lip service.

I suppose you want your logical lead in to saying that OC3Networks is already doing what I just said MojoHost is going to do. Ok, you have it. That would make you unique Milan, every other host turns a blind eye to all of the tube sites and has not been canceling repeat DMCA offenders or not seeking this high volume hosting.

I run a tight network with a great client list. I don't expect to discover very much but will be making a sincere effort to find what needs to be found in fairly short order.

I don't have tricks under my sleeve, I have my sleeves rolled up for work.

Brad

Well that settles it, I'm going to do everything in my power to move all my servers that I work with over to Mojo Host.

Sausage 04-10-2008 06:55 PM

The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

I host our tube with mojohost, and while we are pretty sure we aren't the type of tube they are talking about, when a company takes an anti-tube stand ... the good tend to be lumped in with the bad.

Also to address another point regarding so many tubes selling. Yep many are, but you have to be a bloody idiot to allow 20 min videos and still expect to make lots of money. Tubes can produce good profitable traffic just like tgps, mgps, etc etc, but you gotta use some common sense. Also, with the sheer number of sponsors contacting us wanting to get their promo content and clips on our tube ... there is no reason you would ever need to use stolen content or turn a blind eye to it .... it just doesn't make sense.

milan 04-10-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 14052409)
Milan,

Dude, I'm tired. Are you just trying to push my buttons? Those aren't real questions and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am simply giving marketing lip service.

I suppose you want your logical lead in to saying that OC3Networks is already doing what I just said MojoHost is going to do. Ok, you have it. That would make you unique Milan, every other host turns a blind eye to all of the tube sites and has not been canceling repeat DMCA offenders or not seeking this high volume hosting.

I run a tight network with a great client list. I don't expect to discover very much but will be making a sincere effort to find what needs to be found in fairly short order.

I don't have tricks under my sleeve, I have my sleeves rolled up for work.

Brad

Hey,

what's up? you can't get some dialog open on something you brought up? you do the same all the time and I mean ALL the time.

Just trying to understand what you are announcing that is ALL.

anyhow cheers! :thumbsup

milan 04-10-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 14052635)
Don't know u brad but good call:thumbsup ........ALSO, I have to agree with the comment above, this Milan dude just made himself and his company look bad by sayin' stuff like that......, I guess some hosting companies are so full of illegal tube sites they'd be in trouble if they cancel them all uh?

did you even read my comment? I guess not.

go back and read it... it says ALL (hosting companies) of us already doing this and my question to Brad was is he doing something new... that is all.

instead of getting angry he could explain what is he doing new so we can maybe.... learn?

madfuck 04-10-2008 07:07 PM

thx for the info....

Brad Mitchell 04-11-2008 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14054346)
The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

I host our tube with mojohost, and while we are pretty sure we aren't the type of tube they are talking about, when a company takes an anti-tube stand ... the good tend to be lumped in with the bad.

Also to address another point regarding so many tubes selling. Yep many are, but you have to be a bloody idiot to allow 20 min videos and still expect to make lots of money. Tubes can produce good profitable traffic just like tgps, mgps, etc etc, but you gotta use some common sense. Also, with the sheer number of sponsors contacting us wanting to get their promo content and clips on our tube ... there is no reason you would ever need to use stolen content or turn a blind eye to it .... it just doesn't make sense.


You are making excellent decisions with your site as are a silent majority of other people out there. Keep on tubing! :)

Brad

Matiz 04-11-2008 10:50 AM

great move

Snake Doctor 04-11-2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14054346)
The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

There is no shifting ground here, you either own a license to use the content, or have the copyright owner's permission to use the content, or you don't.

Just because DMCA allows you to remove copyright infringing material without having to pay a fine or damages to the copyright holder does not mean that stealing their content and then taking it down when they catch you is "legal"

NoWhErE 04-11-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 14049586)
My bad, im in my own little world today and didnt think about what time u had posted the thread.


But ya, I'm curious to see what the actual reaction to a Host denying tube services does. Do they switch? comply? do many tube sites even host in the US? So let us know when you get more data :)



2 days into the official announcement. Is there any data yet?

Brujah 04-11-2008 02:26 PM

milan, are you already doing this? is webair? is prohosters? Have you read the AUPs of the hosting companies that host the tubes? It's just verbiage in most cases because we all know hosts make exceptions or look the other way. What I get from this is that Brad / MojoHost isn't looking the other way and doesn't want to be the host you use if you plan on running an illegal tube site.

Brad Mitchell 04-11-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 14056958)
2 days into the official announcement. Is there any data yet?

A little bit. Mostly it's been clients contacting me that have tube sites with either sponsor content and/or genuine user submitted stuff. I have not as of yet come across any tube sites that need to go or change YET. I have actually heard back from a few dozen clients after making the announcement for these various clarifications and questions they have had and only one of them thought it was a bad idea but was not himself hosting any such tube site on my network.

What a great group of clients! :)

Brad

pocketkangaroo 04-11-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14049811)
Nice move Brad.

I would like to ask anyone else who feels the same way as Brad to join me in boycotting GTS until they stop selling ads on illegal tube sites.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=817025

Looks like it may have worked. I don't see that site selling tube traffic any longer and someone was worried enough that they got those threads pulled from all the boards on the web.

Paparazzi 04-11-2008 03:59 PM

good, but 60 days? Give them 1 week max

milan 04-11-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14057150)
milan, are you already doing this? is webair? is prohosters? Have you read the AUPs of the hosting companies that host the tubes? It's just verbiage in most cases because we all know hosts make exceptions or look the other way. What I get from this is that Brad / MojoHost isn't looking the other way and doesn't want to be the host you use if you plan on running an illegal tube site.

Brujah, yes we do but you raised a good point, you will be surprised how many accounts are getting canceled every months do to AUP violation.

AUP was really started being enforced during the SPAM surge. SPAMHAUS did a great job educating ISP's (by some extreme methods) on enforcing it.

Brad Mitchell 04-12-2008 10:58 AM

Bump for the weekend warriors :thumbsup

Brad

Chio 04-12-2008 11:20 AM

Congrats on a bold move. Hopefully others will follow. :thumbsup

TheSenator 10-05-2009 07:08 AM

Congrats!

Nicky 10-05-2009 07:31 AM

old bumpage

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-05-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 14059763)
Congrats on a bold move. Hopefully others will follow. :thumbsup

How have you been Chio

Altwebdesign 10-05-2009 07:40 AM

brilliant move, standing up for what you believe in and actually acting upon it!

mad props!

nation-x 10-05-2009 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16393322)
How have you been Chio

:2 cents:

Brad Mitchell 10-05-2009 08:35 AM

Wow, nothing like bumping old news! Very exciting. lol

Brad

Agent 488 07-20-2010 04:54 PM

adapt or die.

billywatson 07-20-2010 06:00 PM

I knew you were a good guy when we had lunch together in Amsterdam last year Brad!

Rock on with your bad self!!

Ethersync 07-20-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17350347)
I knew you were a good guy when we had lunch together in Amsterdam last year Brad!

Rock on with your bad self!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=978914

Barefootsies 07-20-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17350206)
adapt or die.


DirtyDanza 07-20-2010 06:23 PM

mojo is on top

Good move

Supz 07-20-2010 06:31 PM

A mile away is where I saw this coming from....

trishauptown 07-20-2010 08:19 PM

You are the man ;-)

Loch 07-20-2010 08:28 PM

Old post!
So brad how is that coming along with not hosting "illigal" or "questionable" content?

Interesting post and i missed it back in that day
Must be a bitch to keep track of today though.

Agent 488: you shit kicker lol :1orglaugh

JD 07-20-2010 08:37 PM

old thread ftwwwww

buck30 07-20-2010 09:35 PM

Way to go. Thank you!

sicone 07-20-2010 09:36 PM

Bumping old threads is fun

GAMEFINEST 07-20-2010 10:11 PM

still the same ..?

rowan 07-20-2010 10:29 PM

This bump is far too subtle.

For those of you that don't get it, see http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=978914

DateDoc 07-20-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17350347)
I knew you were a good guy when we had lunch together in Amsterdam last year Brad!

Rock on with your bad self!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 17350388)
mojo is on top

Good move

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishauptown (Post 17350581)
You are the man ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck30 (Post 17350686)
Way to go. Thank you!

Um, did you check the thread date? :error

rowan 07-20-2010 10:34 PM

http://thsrv.com/hl/http://www.basso...4420_39475.jpg

"I cannot self-terminate."

nicMLS 07-20-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17350778)
This bump is far too subtle.

For those of you that don't get it, see showthread.php?t=978914

Wow, interesting read, guess someone's policy on hosting illegal tube sites changed if it's true. It will be interesting to watch it play out and hear both sides before making judgement.

Marcus Aurelius 07-20-2010 11:26 PM

Brad, you're fag.

And your hosting sucks anyway.

I don't see anyone possibly giving a fuck.

Marcus Aurelius 07-20-2010 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17350778)
This bump is far too subtle.

For those of you that don't get it, see http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=978914

ROFL LMAO! What an idiot.


This was a publicity BRO thread from the get go.

Brad is a fucking fag.


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