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Old 04-02-2008, 07:41 PM   #1
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Do black people commit more crime than any other race in the USA?

why is it like that? I was reading the book today that had some data and blacks had 65% of prison population? That is amazing!
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Yep blacks more then triple any other race in the prison population.
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Poor people steal, not black people. Negros have been repressed by the white man and most are poor as a result. As you can see this crime problem is entirely created by the white man. If you dont believe me go ask a darkie.
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Is it a matter of race, or of socioeconomic disadvantage? I'd be freaking pissed if I were born black in the USA... life is tough enough without people judging you on skin color.
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Is it a matter of race, or of socioeconomic disadvantage? I'd be freaking pissed if I were born black in the USA... life is tough enough without people judging you on skin color.
Its more of a matter of your peers and parents. Their parents are poor, and therefore raise their kids in poor neighborhoods. Poor people generally think alike. Poor people steel, listen to rap music, and do other low life shit.
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Being poor does not mean you automatically have no morals.
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Poor people steal, not black people. Negros have been repressed by the white man and most are poor as a result. As you can see this crime problem is entirely created by the white man. If you dont believe me go ask a darkie.

The Gov't has replaced fathers in the black population so they don't have a stable upbringing !
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Maybe, or maybe not. But they do seem to do better at getting caught.
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i guess no one has thought that maybe there are so many blacks in jail because

1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
2) blacks typically cant afford the good lawyers that get white people off
3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them


lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks

flame me all you want, its true
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i guess no one has thought that maybe there are so many blacks in jail because

1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
2) blacks typically cant afford the good lawyers that get white people off
3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them


lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks

flame me all you want, its true
No need to flame you campimp as its all true
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except OJ but well that was different story he was INNOCENT
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i guess no one has thought that maybe there are so many blacks in jail because

1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
2) blacks typically cant afford the good lawyers that get white people off
3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them


lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks

flame me all you want, its true

you are right, those black guys never commit crimes, they were all framed, just ask them!
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Being poor does not mean you automatically have no morals.
Exactly. Spot on.

So many people today look for others to blame for their own failures. Poor people steal and go to prison, because they're poor, BULL SHIT.

They steal because they think you can get away with it. Most of the time they steal or kill one another.
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i guess no one has thought that maybe there are so many blacks in jail because

1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
2) blacks typically cant afford the good lawyers that get white people off
3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them


lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks

flame me all you want, its true
I totally agree, the thread is wrong since the start, assuming every crime is the same, everybody has the same oportunities, etc etc etc.

Im pretty sure in 'soft' crimes the sentence depends a lot of the judge sympathy, and of the accused skin color, if he is white i think he has more chances to get a provation or any social service sentence, if he black 'its better to keep the nigga in jail'...

racism sucks, and ppls complaining they are being discriminated to take advantage sucks even more.
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1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
There's a pretty big line between arrest and warning. What kind of crimes do you have in mind that generally get a black arrested, but a white let go?

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Definitely true, but this plays only a limited role. The justice system in the US is fairly accurate. I think it's more likely that innocent whites get off more often than innocent blacks (mostly because of prior record) rather than white criminals buying their way to freedom all the time. Fact is, the verdict is almost always in line with your true guilt or innocence.

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3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them
The courts look primarily at prior history. For the average white guy, it's his first and probably only time in front of the judge. Unfortunately a lot of black criminals do not learn and come back again and again. Thus, their punishments are more harsh.

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lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks
It's 2:30 AM. There are three young men walking behind you on the sidewalk. What race do you want them to be? If you say anything but white, you are a liar.
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Exactly. Spot on.

So many people today look for others to blame for their own failures. Poor people steal and go to prison, because they're poor, BULL SHIT.

They steal because they think you can get away with it. Most of the time they steal or kill one another.
I agree with that. Everyone has the same opportunity in life from the start, its then up to them to make something of themselves. Sure everyone needs a helping hand along the way but just because you are born into a poor family doesn't mean you are gonna live a life of stealing and no job. Work hard and you'll get that good job and earn more money.
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It doesn't matter the race for stealing.
People who can't find a job end up stealing. If everyone would have decent jobs, noone would be stealing anything.
Here in Andorra, unemployment is 0%. The few robberys there are, are made by foreigners.
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Poor people with a bad education tend to commit more crime; unfortunately in the U.S. the black population fit this, but that does not mean the crime is commited due to their race.
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There's a pretty big line between arrest and warning. What kind of crimes do you have in mind that generally get a black arrested, but a white let go?



Definitely true, but this plays only a limited role. The justice system in the US is fairly accurate. I think it's more likely that innocent whites get off more often than innocent blacks (mostly because of prior record) rather than white criminals buying their way to freedom all the time. Fact is, the verdict is almost always in line with your true guilt or innocence.



The courts look primarily at prior history. For the average white guy, it's his first and probably only time in front of the judge. Unfortunately a lot of black criminals do not learn and come back again and again. Thus, their punishments are more harsh.



It's 2:30 AM. There are three young men walking behind you on the sidewalk. What race do you want them to be? If you say anything but white, you are a liar.
Good response to the usual excuses.
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Yawn.

The facts, opinions and thoughts in both, rather, all sides, of any race argument are spun to favor the message of the person that is trying to get his or her point across.

Arguing about it (racism and pretty much every other ism) is pointless and most with an opinion are too set in their ways to have an intelligent debate over it.

There are people that don't like those of the ebony persuasion. There are those that don't like whitey. There are people that do not like Mexicans (these people typically label all Spanish and Portugese speaking people as Mexican because they are too fucking stupid to know any better. They also think all Orientals are Chinese), Asians, Indians, Native Americans, Arabs, Mongoloids, Canadians... short people, tall people, thin people, fat people, smart people, dumb people, blondes, brunettes, redheads... normal healthy people, people with disabilities, relgious zealots, atheists....

Life isn't fair. Somebody hates you. Get over it and get on with life.

Stop fucking crying and perpetuating stereo-types that affect "your people" whatever they are.
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why is it like that? I was reading the book today that had some data and blacks had 65% of prison population? That is amazing!
Drug laws in the USA are pure ass. I'd love to see the stats on how many of that 65% are in there for minor shit like possession. Something that would send 90% of adult webmasters to jail if they had to submit to a search of their house right now.
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As long as it's Black on Black crime, it doesn't fucking matter anyway.

African American men more likely to commit violent crime, but Caucasians, Aryans more likely to commit white collar crime (= fraud, scams, theft).
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i guess no one has thought that maybe there are so many blacks in jail because

1) cops are much more likely to arrest a black man, while letting a white man off with a warning
2) blacks typically cant afford the good lawyers that get white people off
3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them


lets face it... blacks, white, mexicans... whatever... every race has good and bad... its just a shame that in america there are still so many stereotypes against blacks

flame me all you want, its true
excuses of the black man looking to blaim others.
that's what fucked up with society today. always looking to blaim others for your issues.
go do something with your life and make it better instead of blaiming others.
who is obama blaiming for his success ? himself and no one else because he moved beyond feeling sorry for himself and made his life better.
people would not do things just because. there is no smoke without the fire.
now in the classic words to all those that are looking to blaim others for the "black problems in american" that this board knows all so well "GO FUCK YOURSELF "
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usually poverty rather than race, and the whiteman can afford a good lawyer,
happens in the U.K aswell. When in doubt arrest a blackman.
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you are right, but when you are brought up in other poor and low moral people, you automatically become like those.
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In 2004, Maori made up just 15% of the total New Zealand population but 49.5% of prisoners.

Native Americans make up about 2% of the Canadian population but account for 18% of the federal prison population as of 2000
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Its not a race issue its a poverty issue. It just happens the majority of poor people are minorities.
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Black people don't commit more crime, they just get caught more often. When a black man steals from you, he steals $40.00 from your wallet. When a men man steals from you he steals your entire pension fund.

No scratch that, when a white man steals from you he steals the entire corporations pension funds.
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Its not a race issue its a poverty issue. It just happens the majority of poor people are minorities.
I would think there are more white people living in poverty in the U.S. then the entire black population of the country; or pretty damn close to it. I would think a larger percentage of the black population live in poverty though when compared to the white population.

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Negros have been repressed by the white man and most are poor as a result. As you can see this crime problem is entirely created by the white man. If you dont believe me go ask a darkie.
That's just plain horse-shit.

Blacks (as well as any other race) were given the same school books that I was given, took the same tests that I took, had the same teachers that I had, drank from the same water fountain that I did and rode the same bus that I rode...

It all starts with education mixed with an inner drive to better ones self. To say you can't move up in todays world because of your race is just plain horse shit!

Now, I'm not an idiot and yes, there was a time when blacks were repressed because of their race (was being the operative word) - but the only cotton I've ever seen a black person pick is a shirt off of a K-Mart rack.
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excuses of the black man looking to blaim others.
that's what fucked up with society today. always looking to blaim others for your issues.
go do something with your life and make it better instead of blaiming others.
who is obama blaiming for his success ? himself and no one else because he moved beyond feeling sorry for himself and made his life better.
people would not do things just because. there is no smoke without the fire.
now in the classic words to all those that are looking to blaim others for the "black problems in american" that this board knows all so well "GO FUCK YOURSELF "

im not black. and i am not making excuses for black people that are in jail... simply stating, that if you have 2 people that commit the exact same crime, with the exact same prior history there is a MUCH greater chance that the black man would wind up in jail while the white man would wind up with community service, or a huge fine.

and to whoever asked if it were 230 in the morning would you rather have a black or white man walking behind you.... well that depends on where you at the time


detroit... id prefer a white guy behind me
dumbfuck alabama... id prefer a black guy


but the point is.... it really doesnt matter, either are just as likely to shank your ass if you are stupid enough to be in a strange place at 230 in the monring on the streets
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why is it like that? I was reading the book today that had some data and blacks had 65% of prison population? That is amazing!
I read once that blacks commit 60% of all crime and 80% of all violent crime. not sure how current these numbers are. and to be fair at different times different races have more issues than other races. for instance the Irish had heavy crime issues earlier in the century.

the reason the blacks have issues with prison is the culture, and the federal sentencing guidelines. the blacks have a real problem with the guidelines due to their social issues.

the broken families and lack of education or work history. really sink the blacks. -bmb
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According to the last numbers I saw in an article about increasing violence at black funerals they are. According to the numbers in the paper, the number of whites murdered dropped slightly to 6956 between 2004 in 2006. In contrast, the number of blacks killed rose to 7421. But it gets even better! African-Americans only make up 13% of the United States population, so if you back those numbers out and made the black and white populations equal, there would be in excess of 57,000 homicides in the black community!

Poverty may have something to do with it, but I am telling you that culture has at least as much to do with it, if not more!
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Poor people steal, not black people. Negros have been repressed by the white man and most are poor as a result. As you can see this crime problem is entirely created by the white man. If you dont believe me go ask a darkie.
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3) judges typically are so biased against a black man standing in front of them that they put harsher penalties on them

not true at all: federal sentencing guidelines determine the sentence.
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