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Hooterdog 10-11-2002 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle

Now if I was letting guys come all over me,doing gang bangs etc...

would you . . . for a million dollars?
be honest

funkmaster 10-11-2002 01:38 PM

"are you kidding me? You are in the porn biz. EVERYTHING about it is degrading to women. "

... not everything, but almost ...

Socks 10-11-2002 01:50 PM

Touchy subject, and surprising posts.. But I think there's a line to be drawn here that isn't being drawn. Are girls "degraded" by posing nude? no. If they have sex on film, are they being degraded? no! But I can't say I understand why guys enjoy seeing girls suffer on film. To me that's not sexy, and I like sexy. I respect women, and I don't get turned on by seeing women disrespected every step of the way. Which begs the next question.. As Too $hort said, a woman should be treated with respect and class, but a bitch is a bitch, and gets treated as such. A respectable woman with morals would have issues with taking degrading parts, and so it's in her court I guess. I don't think it's wrong for the industry to ask them though.. Touchy subject.

pink_in_the_middle 10-11-2002 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Hooterdog


would you . . . for a million dollars?
be honest

Honestly? No.
For me sex is very intimate. I don't care if someone handed me the world on a silver platter. I was brought up to have morals and respect for myself.

I have too much respect for myself,my husband,kids,friends and family do ever do that to myself and them.

pink_in_the_middle 10-11-2002 02:03 PM

I was offered an all expence paid trip to the bahamas.
The condition was that I had to sleep with other men and women and so did my hubby.

It was a trip for swingers. I said thanks but no thanks :)
I can't be bought. And it pisses me off that ppl think that everybody can be bought. Yeah some ppl can but there are ppl out there they have morals. I happens to be the one with morals

SykkBoy 10-11-2002 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


Sorry I think you're missing something here.Let me explane...
You're making your living off (models) right? Isn't that what webmasters do?

If you didn't have the models or affiliates then what would you be doing? You make your money off these ppl right? If not please explane because I must be missing something here.

Which in conclusion, brings me right back to what I was saying in another post about we're (models) keeping you alive. If you didn't have models then you wouldn't be making money in this industry.

um and what would these models do without someone to pay them to take thier clothes off?

pink_in_the_middle 10-11-2002 04:23 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SykkBoy2


um and what would these models do without someone to pay them to take thier clothes off?
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aaaawwwww we can all hold hands and do this together then :winkwink:

Without eachother we'd both be nowhere.

Scootermuze 10-11-2002 04:36 PM

A hung jury....

Gotta love how court room lingo and porn go hand in hand.. :)

UnseenWorld 10-11-2002 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Riight, just shot two girls today. They earnt $500 each if they had of worked in Tescos (Lucky's) they would earn $170 for the month.

We have a strict no touching, no fondling, no sexual harrassment policy when shooting.

But the site of me in my GFY shirt
is sometimes too much for them.


RocHard a girl must never be forced coerced, treated as inferior, degraded or insulted. Either as an individual or collectively. I always remember that I have a mother, two daughters and a wife.

However she can be treated as sexual and desirable. If they are selling their bodies purely and only for the money, there is a word for it. Look up the definition of prostitute.

Never forget, girls like sex and when they look beautiful and sexy, making a pass is allowed. Just never assume because she is doing this work she's available.

I agree. The model is there to pose, not to be subjected to uncalled for touching or sexual suggestions. It's a workplace like any other with one or two major exceptions: 1) the employee is getting naked and posing provocatively; and 2) unlike most other work situations, models LIKE physical compliments. They are selling their beauty and sexiness, and unlike working in an office, for example, a well-phrased physical compliment makes the "employee" more comfortable, not less.

What I tell up and coming photographers of nudes is that compliments need to be tasteful and never personalized (e.g., "Your breasts are gorgeous" is a yes-yes; "I'd love to tit-fuck those things" is a no-no). Strangely, there seem to be guys who can't sense the difference.

My attorney once told me (and here I am forced to paraphrase), "If you and a model seem to be hitting it off and you'd like to advance to a social relationship. Wait until she is dressed and has been paid, and then invite her to something not-very-heavy, like coffee. If she says no, that's the end of it. On the other hand, if coffee seems to go well, invite her to something a bit more like a real 'date.' Dinner and a movie or something like that. Once you go out on a date, even if you end up breaking it off, and even if things go pretty sour, it would be very difficult for her to turn around and make sexual harrassment charges stick."

Oh, and I, too, have several women I love, including a daughter. I try to never do anything I wouldn't want her to discover, which is one of the reasons I don't do hardcore.

Validus 10-11-2002 07:08 PM

In the end it comes down to respect.

Have a good Thanks Giving Everybody and a good weekend.

PornoDoggy 10-11-2002 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Actually I sold my business two or three weeks ago to my manager/partner/friend, but even while I was in this business I had, and have, other sources of income. So I will repeat that a woman/women do not keep me alive. I do understand the point you are making, and as I stated I respect a man or a womans right to do porn, but that does not mean that I should, or do respect them, for doing porn.

If you can't respect them for doing porn, how can you respect yourself for selling it?

Carrie 10-11-2002 08:02 PM

I know that it takes all kinds. For me, looking at gothweb's content makes me just stare blindly at the screen and go "wow...", while a girl getting "degraded" just makes me say "ugh" and click the X.

The guys who like to see the degrading stuff - do they start out that way or do you think they work their way up to it? Maybe they get tired of seeing nude girls, then girls kissing other girls, then a couple screwing, then a couple of couples screwing each other...
Do you think they get bored with each "step' and work their way up until finally the only thing that interests them is the really nasty shit?

Mishi 10-11-2002 08:46 PM

"Degrading" is being hired to do programming and development, yet also being expected to answer the phone because that's what girls do.

But I'm not bitter. :feels-hot

Just don't ask your models to get you coffee, and it's all good.


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