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Old 04-03-2008, 11:44 PM   #1
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Obama's List Of Lies - From a Liberals View

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn?t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ?Baraka? (from which Barack came) means ?blessed? in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn?t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn?t, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn?t, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won?t Run On A National Ticket In ?08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn?t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn?t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn?t.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn?t write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don?t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don?t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people?s words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren?t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don?t have to buy it.



Read more here http://www.slate.com/id/2188010?wpisrc=newsletter
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:50 PM   #2
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phewwwwwwwwwwww long read,any comments about gfy/porn/girls gone wild ? german doms to be banned ?
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:51 PM   #3
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I read them all, interesting...
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:56 PM   #4
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Clinton's people have the knives out now !
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:02 AM   #5
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too much reading, i'd vote for the brother over that other nutty troll
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:13 AM   #6
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Ah excellent... you should reference what you say to save us the trouble of Googling the claims and quotes, but bravo.

Just goes to enforce the inherent bullshit and fallacy of the US 2-party system.

Where's Ron Paul when you need him?
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:21 AM   #7
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Ah excellent... you should reference what you say to save us the trouble of Googling the claims and quotes, but bravo.

Just goes to enforce the inherent bullshit and fallacy of the US 2-party system.

Where's Ron Paul when you need him?



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Old 04-04-2008, 12:26 AM   #8
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.

I am skeptical of these types of lists. All of the things listed may or may not be true but the problem is most people will not double check and they (the people that compile lists like this) know this.
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.

I am skeptical of these types of lists. All of the things listed may or may not be true but the problem is most people will not double check and they know this.
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Ok thanks spunkmaster.
Could you also make a list of McCain most infamous lies?
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:53 AM   #11
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:06 AM   #12
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.

I am skeptical of these types of lists. All of the things listed may or may not be true but the problem is most people will not double check and they (the people that compile lists like this) know this.
Fucking idiot !

At the bottom of the first post it has a link to the source which is a liberal rag !

The post is to show clinton's people have the knives out for commie Barry Ala Ach Bar Obamma !

A socialist against a commie !
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Not to be outdone by Democratic presidential rival Senator Hillary Clinton’s bogus claims to have been named after the man who climbed Everest six years after her birth and narrowly escaped death in Bosnia, Senator Barack Obama claimed that a 1965 civil rights march in Selma Alabama encouraged his parents to give birth to him in 1961.

According to Obama, “the 1965 civil rights march inspired my father to abandon his wife in Kenya and come to America in 1960—even dodging sniper fire when his plane landed at the Honolulu airport—just so he could marry a white woman and father the interracial child who would later become president and put an end to global racial injustice.”

Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in August of 1961.
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McCain dirty little secret:

John is Cindy's gigolo.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=politics
McCain's marriage is key to his finances
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At the bottom of the first post it has a link to the source which is a liberal rag !
LOL. This was not written by anyone at Salon but a comment left from some crazed Hillary or McCain supporter. I'm not going take the time to research this but I'm sure that most of the information is false.

Anyway, it is to little to late. Obama is going to be the nominee and will beat McCain like a red-headed step child.
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.

I am skeptical of these types of lists. All of the things listed may or may not be true but the problem is most people will not double check and they (the people that compile lists like this) know this.
thank you
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Repubs are all pissed off that it isn't their year.

American politics are so corrupt.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:41 AM   #18
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people who say something bad about politicians are usually brainwashed by other politicians, that's why they only concentrate on one person. Why didn't you list clinton and mcccain's lies too? Because politicians are all the same.
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Some of that has been talked about in the news, and not debunked. But a lot of it could be shit.

I still dont trust the fucker.
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Anyway, it is to little to late. Obama is going to be the nominee and will beat McCain like a red-headed step child.
I bet it is a rosy world you live in.

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Repubs are all pissed off that it isn't their year.

American politics are so corrupt.
Canadians are so funny.

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It's sad in the end that we must vote for the lesser of two evils.
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I bet it is a rosy world you live in.
No it fucking sucks thanks to Bush fanboys like yourself.

Do you not think Obama will be the nominee or that the will beat McCain?
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.

I am skeptical of these types of lists. All of the things listed may or may not be true but the problem is most people will not double check and they (the people that compile lists like this) know this.


I was about to say this would be about a million times more convincing if links to viable news sources were embedded for each point... there being 2 per line.

Otherwise, it's pretty easy for anyone with an ounce of common sense to dismiss the list entirely. Too bad most Americans don't have that ounce of common sense.
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No it fucking sucks thanks to Bush fanboys like yourself.

Do you not think Obama will be the nominee or that the will beat McCain?
#1. Definitely not a fan of Bush.
#2. Doesn't matter who gets the nod for the Dems, McCain wins.
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Some people just go over the top when there's simply no need to.

Despite running as an "anti establishment" type, Obama is one of the most politically savvy people around. If I was able to vote present on every controversial bill, I would have too. Why give your enemies political ammo when you dont have to. Smart.

If I could get a house because a friend could deed the land, I most certainly would.. Provided it's not illegal. "Improper" or "shady" is not impeachable unless you also lie, which he has not. Smart.

If I could get permission to use a kick-ass speech (an admittedly "politics as usual" thing to do), and still have every media pundit praising my "outsider" status I've generated, I certainly would too! Smart.

When I go ahead by 2 points in a poll that has a 4.6% margin of error and yet media people say I was "surging ahead in the polls", well fuck yes I would too LMAO! Smart!

Lesser of two evils is spot on. I'm of the mind that it's better to have the enemy you know, than the enemy you dont know.
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I would have no problem accepting those facts if they were backed up with a proper link to each one stating a source.

Did you write that yourself? um.. no.. it was written by Salon.com (one source I found) where I still couldnt find proof of the accusations.

http://letters.salon.com/news/featur...view/?show=all
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Did you write that yourself? um.. no.. it was written by Salon.com (one source I found) where I still couldnt find proof of the accusations.

http://letters.salon.com/news/featur...view/?show=all
It's not even written by Salon. Just a letter sent to them by some anti-Obama person who supports Clinton, McCain or maybe just doesn't want to see a brother get ahead.
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Another email meant to scare middle America?
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The source appears to be a vehemently anti-Obama blog:

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/?p=62

This doesn't mean the claims are untrue but better sourcing would help.
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#2. Doesn't matter who gets the nod for the Dems, McCain wins.
so why don't you bet money on that ?
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THIS IS A COPY-PASTE

Dick Morris and RCP compiled a list recently of all the lies Hillary is known to have told:

Admitted Lies

1. Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
2. Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
3.She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
4.She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)

Whoppers She Won't Confess To

1.,She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
2.She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
3.Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
4.She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
5.She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
6.She opposed NAFTA at the time.
7.She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
8.She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
9.She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
10.The billing records showed up on their own.
11.She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
12.She was always a Yankees fan.
13.She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
14.She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
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Comment from a Black man, about Obama:

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All the NAACP and some churches is calling and e mailing saying we have got to support Obama. They don't really give any reason but he is black. They say "opportunity" over and over in the e mail. So they are saying that because I am black I have got to vote for Obama. I don't agree with it. Obama hasn't shown me any reason to think he is any different than any other lying politician. He is saying stuff just to get elected. They all do that. It is hard to find out what Obama is for because he changes a lot. For instance about Iraq. First he said the US should get out fast. Then he changed it to a few months. Then he said a year or more and he would have to talk to the generals. Now he is saying get out fast again. So see what I mean.
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Fucking idiot !

At the bottom of the first post it has a link to the source which is a liberal rag !

The post is to show clinton's people have the knives out for commie Barry Ala Ach Bar Obamma !

A socialist against a commie !
It was a comment posted on an article. Hardly sourced by anyone. Will you start posting 9//11 nut comments as "fact" too? I mean if it's a comment on a site, it must all be true.

As for socialists, every candidate running has socialist tendancies. Our country already is borderline socialist. In fact, McCain has just as much socialist tendencies and policies as the other two. But hey, maybe that wasn't written in a comment section of some site.
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so why don't you bet money on that ?
What makes you think I haven't?
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A liberal is an eternal college student fighting the evil authority/police.

A liberal needs group protection so my people don't beat him up around the corner.

**** irony ***
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A liberal is an eternal college student fighting the evil authority/police.

A liberal needs group protection so my people don't beat him up around the corner.

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Isn't it the conservatives who are sending other people's kids off to war? And isn't it the conservatives in power who all conveniently had deferments when it was their time to serve?
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Some of those points are backed up in this article
Barack Obama and Me .
The politician is from Chicago and people think he's some clean second coming .

He is going to be absolutely crucified in the general election by the Republican machine. Hillary's attacks are child's play compared to how hard they'll hammer him.
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I think Obama will get beat in a general election. McCain is one of the few candidates who doesn't get scrutinized hard by the media either. The Republican Party knows how to win Presidential elections. And I just think there is still too much racism in the country for a black man to win.

Nonetheless, I guess I'm surprised at how worried Republicans seem at the prospect of Obama running.
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The person that started this thread checked his facts before posting - LIAR, he didn't.
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Most of that list can be found in his autobiography
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