New Best Estimate: Universe is 13.73 Billion Years Old - LOL @ CHRISTIANS! - GoFuckYourself.com

Socks · 03-29-2008, 01:26 AM

Take that bible thumpers!!!

13.73 Billion Years - The Most Precise Measurement of the Age of the Universe Yet

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03...-universe-yet/

NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) has taken the best measurement of the age of the Universe to date. According to highly precise observations of microwave radiation observed all over the cosmos, WMAP scientists now have the best estimate yet on the age of the Universe: 13.73 billion years, plus or minus 120 million years (that's an error margin of only 0.87%… not bad really…).

The WMAP mission was sent to the Sun-Earth second Lagrangian point (L2), located approximately 1.5 million km from the surface of the Earth on the night-side (i.e. WMAP is constantly in the shadow of the Earth) in 2001. The reason for this location is the nature of the gravitational stability in the region and the lack of electromagnetic interference from the Sun. Constantly looking out into space, WMAP scans the cosmos with its ultra sensitive microwave receiver, mapping any small variations in the background "temperature" (anisotropy) of the universe. It can detect microwave radiation in the wavelength range of 3.3-13.6 mm (with a corresponding frequency of 90-22 GHz). Warm and cool regions of space are therefore mapped, including the radiation polarity.

This microwave background radiation originates from a very early universe, just 400,000 years after the Big Bang, when the ambient temperature of the universe was about 3,000 K. At this temperature, neutral hydrogen atoms were possible, scattering photons. It is these photons WMAP observes today, only much cooler at 2.7 Kelvin (that's only 2.7 degrees higher than absolute zero, -273.15°C). WMAP constantly observes this cosmic radiation, measuring tiny alterations in temperature and polarity. These measurements refine our understanding about the structure of our universe around the time of the Big Bang and also help us understand the nature of the period of "inflation", in the very beginning of the expansion of the Universe.

It is a matter of exposure for the WMAP mission, the longer it observes the better refined the measurements. After seven years of results-taking, the WMAP mission has tightened the estimate on the age of the Universe down to an error margin of only 120 million years, that's 0.87% of the 13.73 billion years since the Big Bang.

Catalyst · 03-29-2008, 01:40 AM

I am listening to coast to coast am right now.. and they are talking about this now.

the Shemp · 03-29-2008, 01:41 AM

God is much older than we thought ....

Socks · 03-29-2008, 01:44 AM

This information can't be believed though, as they wrongly chose to use "science" to make this complete and total guess they've made.

They didn't even mention Moses in the article.

Tempest · 03-29-2008, 01:48 AM

ok.. one more time... the bible said the earth, the animals and man etc. were created in 7 days... but it also says at one point that something like 1000 years is like 1 day to god.. in other words.. the "7 days" is not necessarily a literal 7 days but can very well be millions of "man" years... and nowhere does it say god created the universe or how long it may have taken...

Socks · 03-29-2008, 01:50 AM

Man they didn't even have the word "universe" back then, nor did they have any concept of it.

More evidence it was: written by man.

Brujah · 03-29-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

ok.. one more time... the bible said the earth, the animals and man etc. were created in 7 days... but it also says at one point that something like 1000 years is like 1 day to god.. in other words.. the "7 days" is not necessarily a literal 7 days but can very well be millions of "man" years... and nowhere does it say god created the universe or how long it may have taken...

I don't think that's how it's calculated. They use genealogies to calculate the ages of people from Adam to Jesus for example.
http://www.geocities.com/his_emissary/time.html

Tanker · 03-29-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I don't think that's how it's calculated. They use genealogies to calculate the ages of people from Adam to Jesus for example.
http://www.geocities.com/his_emissary/time.html

What happened to the human race we only like to be 100 years old these days if we are lucky that whole geneology report has them living to be 160 before they even had kids some of them. and noah was 600 before the flood gates opened

we must have really done something wrong along the way that messed up a DNA and caused us to lose the longevity in our lives

Michaelious · 03-29-2008, 07:11 AM

I have a honours degree in science but i think that there is no point laughing at the Christians as most of the square state guys have their minds closed so it's waste of time explaining this to them.

Brujah · 03-29-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker

What happened to the human race we only like to be 100 years old these days if we are lucky that whole geneology report has them living to be 160 before they even had kids some of them. and noah was 600 before the flood gates opened

we must have really done something wrong along the way that messed up a DNA and caused us to lose the longevity in our lives

Antedeluvians (before the flood) lived much longer apparently. That all changed after the great flood. I always thought it was interesting how Isaac Newton, one of the greatest scientists and physicists, was such a strict theologian. He calculated the end of the world to be 2060 (or after).

Socks · 03-29-2008, 10:10 PM

Tempest · 03-29-2008, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

I don't think that's how it's calculated. They use genealogies to calculate the ages of people from Adam to Jesus for example.
http://www.geocities.com/his_emissary/time.html

You sort of missed my point... days 1 thru 5 could have been billions of man years... day 7 could have been a dozen years.. a hundred.. how "god" would think of time would be completely different than what we would think of it... when we write books, or outline a step by step process, we break it up into sections.. to indicate a start and a beginning.. there's no reason not to think that god partitioned up billions of years into "days" simply so we could comprehend things easier. Now here's another concept for all the "non-believers".. The bible doesn't say god created man "right" the first time.. He could very well have created many versions of man (thus the neandathals etc.) until he got it right... Religions think of god as a "perfect" being, one who doesn't make mistakes etc. But if that was so, then (and this is just 1 simple example) he would have known Adam needed a companion and would have created one right from the start instead of having to see if any of current creation would be a suitable companion and when not finding one, THEN creating woman...

Brujah · 03-30-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

You sort of missed my point... days 1 thru 5 could have been billions of man years... day 7 could have been a dozen years.. a hundred.. how "god" would think of time would be completely different than what we would think of it... when we write books, or outline a step by step process, we break it up into sections.. to indicate a start and a beginning.. there's no reason not to think that god partitioned up billions of years into "days" simply so we could comprehend things easier. Now here's another concept for all the "non-believers".. The bible doesn't say god created man "right" the first time.. He could very well have created many versions of man (thus the neandathals etc.) until he got it right... Religions think of god as a "perfect" being, one who doesn't make mistakes etc. But if that was so, then (and this is just 1 simple example) he would have known Adam needed a companion and would have created one right from the start instead of having to see if any of current creation would be a suitable companion and when not finding one, THEN creating woman...

Pfft. HERETIC!! You will BURN!

lazycash · 03-30-2008, 09:04 AM

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/video.php

who · 03-30-2008, 09:44 AM

Honestly, how can they measure any cosmic events at all using 'earth years' ? It's all relative and .. irrelevant. I mean, you'd have to be positioned on Earth itself to be able to observe and measure events using Earth time. If you're not located on Earth, an 'Earth year' is not a real measurement. So, before earth existed, measuring events in Earth years is ... well... to me anyway, it sounds absurd.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-30-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

ok.. one more time... the bible said the earth, the animals and man etc. were created in 7 days... but it also says at one point that something like 1000 years is like 1 day to god.. in other words.. the "7 days" is not necessarily a literal 7 days but can very well be millions of "man" years... and nowhere does it say god created the universe or how long it may have taken...

if 1 day is 1000 years wouldn't 7 days be 7000 years , not "millions" of years ?

God isn't very good at math, but then again he never claimed to be a math whiz.

Fap · 03-30-2008, 10:35 AM

damn, thats older than my grandpa

amateur-skin · 03-30-2008, 10:39 AM

nah son earths only 5000 years old. the universe is the same age lol

Michaelious · 03-30-2008, 10:41 AM

I love how people are still arguing over this even after Billions of Dollars of research

moeloubani · 03-30-2008, 11:13 AM

Religion and science can live side by side but religious people have to stop taking everything so literally!

papill0n · 03-30-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

Honestly, how can they measure any cosmic events at all using 'earth years' ? It's all relative and .. irrelevant. I mean, you'd have to be positioned on Earth itself to be able to observe and measure events using Earth time. If you're not located on Earth, an 'Earth year' is not a real measurement. So, before earth existed, measuring events in Earth years is ... well... to me anyway, it sounds absurd.

you may want to touch up on your physics and astronomy ;)

Tempest · 03-30-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if 1 day is 1000 years wouldn't 7 days be 7000 years , not "millions" of years ?

The phrase is something like "is like", not "is"... in other words it's just a way of indicating that god's time is not like ours, it's not literal.

Fizzgig · 03-30-2008, 04:45 PM

What's the dollar value of the universe?

Iron Fist · 03-30-2008, 04:55 PM

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	New Best Estimate: Universe is 13.73 Billion Years Old - LOL @ CHRISTIANS! Take that bible thumpers!!! 13.73 Billion Years - The Most Precise Measurement of the Age of the Universe Yet http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03...-universe-yet/ NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) has taken the best measurement of the age of the Universe to date. According to highly precise observations of microwave radiation observed all over the cosmos, WMAP scientists now have the best estimate yet on the age of the Universe: 13.73 billion years, plus or minus 120 million years (that's an error margin of only 0.87%… not bad really…). The WMAP mission was sent to the Sun-Earth second Lagrangian point (L2), located approximately 1.5 million km from the surface of the Earth on the night-side (i.e. WMAP is constantly in the shadow of the Earth) in 2001. The reason for this location is the nature of the gravitational stability in the region and the lack of electromagnetic interference from the Sun. Constantly looking out into space, WMAP scans the cosmos with its ultra sensitive microwave receiver, mapping any small variations in the background "temperature" (anisotropy) of the universe. It can detect microwave radiation in the wavelength range of 3.3-13.6 mm (with a corresponding frequency of 90-22 GHz). Warm and cool regions of space are therefore mapped, including the radiation polarity. This microwave background radiation originates from a very early universe, just 400,000 years after the Big Bang, when the ambient temperature of the universe was about 3,000 K. At this temperature, neutral hydrogen atoms were possible, scattering photons. It is these photons WMAP observes today, only much cooler at 2.7 Kelvin (that's only 2.7 degrees higher than absolute zero, -273.15°C). WMAP constantly observes this cosmic radiation, measuring tiny alterations in temperature and polarity. These measurements refine our understanding about the structure of our universe around the time of the Big Bang and also help us understand the nature of the period of "inflation", in the very beginning of the expansion of the Universe. It is a matter of exposure for the WMAP mission, the longer it observes the better refined the measurements. After seven years of results-taking, the WMAP mission has tightened the estimate on the age of the Universe down to an error margin of only 120 million years, that's 0.87% of the 13.73 billion years since the Big Bang.

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	ok.. one more time... the bible said the earth, the animals and man etc. were created in 7 days... but it also says at one point that something like 1000 years is like 1 day to god.. in other words.. the "7 days" is not necessarily a literal 7 days but can very well be millions of "man" years... and nowhere does it say god created the universe or how long it may have taken...

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Man they didn't even have the word "universe" back then, nor did they have any concept of it. More evidence it was: written by man.

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who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Honestly, how can they measure any cosmic events at all using 'earth years' ? It's all relative and .. irrelevant. I mean, you'd have to be positioned on Earth itself to be able to observe and measure events using Earth time. If you're not located on Earth, an 'Earth year' is not a real measurement. So, before earth existed, measuring events in Earth years is ... well... to me anyway, it sounds absurd.

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