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Old 03-29-2008, 10:59 AM   #1
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No naked dodgeball :(

Got canceled yesterday. Will they try again today? Anyone know?
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:01 AM   #2
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im assuming with what went down with both the policies and the media, no..

i also wouldnt be surprised if theres an issue next year... i heard the media is being bitches because the mission palms wouldnt let the media in...

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I would guess no Baddog. Steve said no nudity in the public areas of the property, or else Mission Palms could/would loose their liquor license. I highly doubt any of that has changed today.
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gotta love how the local press is slamming it....
gotta love the idiots

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...alker0328.html


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The Web site promoting the event promises it will be "a unique networking opportunity for participants ... with unsurpassed educational and promotional opportunities geared specifically to businesses operating in the adult industry."

It's impossible to know exactly what that means because for an industry that claims to be ardent supporters of the First Amendment right to free speech, they sure don't want any newspaper coverage.
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I would guess no Baddog. Steve said no nudity in the public areas of the property, or else Mission Palms could/would loose their liquor license. I highly doubt any of that has changed today.
Not really sure why it became an issue this year. Does that mean we will move?

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gotta love how the local press is slamming it....
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Well, just being the devil's advocate, they kind of have a point. Just wondering why all of a sudden we are of such great interest to them.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:25 AM   #6
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I heard its because the media caught wind that Girls Gone Wild is at Phoenix and they of course, want to catch a glimpse of Dupree playing dodgeball... naked would be even better.
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you dont see enough naked girls in your work? lol
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Well, just being the devil's advocate, they kind of have a point. Just wondering why all of a sudden we are of such great interest to them.
"because for an industry that claims to be ardent supporters of the First Amendment right to free speech"

We are standing up for our our First Amendment Rights by not allowing media sources that have never given our Industry anything but shit.

We have media at the show, just not ones that continually bash us.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:40 AM   #10
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Ok, calm down here's the web site.

http://thephoenixforum.com/...

It's not a porn star convention it's a "how to" for porn business owners.

BTW, to print "It's impossible to know exactly what that means because for an industry that claims to be ardent supporters of the First Amendment right to free speech, they sure don't want any newspaper coverage" shows how lazy this reporter is.

The complete agenda and course descriptions are listed at the web site and you can still register and go if your that obsessed with knowing about it.

They just don't want a bunch of loser reporters like this guy lurking around."

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The negative press sucks... wonder how it'll affect things in years to come.
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The media are a bunch of idiots.

But I think naked dodgeball is pretty lame.

Dunno how it's not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls.
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The media are a bunch of idiots.

But I think naked dodgeball is pretty lame.

Dunno how it's not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls.
I disagree with this...

the girls have the choice... the ones that actually get naked are paid more... its theire choice as to how much participation they give...

some are there to promote their new stuff... such as FDAU, which i have to give props to Phil-flash to... those are some sexy college girls... i think the skirts a re a little too long too


as for demeaning... its fun games... most of them only get partially naked, or no less than they already are for the whole day...




some of them are soft core, some are cock mongering sluts... which is more likely to be demeaning... taking a load or spreading eagle on camera, or laughing and having fun shaking their goods with each other... its harmless fun...
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Obviously its fun and games and everyone has a good time.

You are allowed to disagree.
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Obviously its fun and games and everyone has a good time.

You are allowed to disagree.
my point is, perhaps demeaning to a girl thats not normally in front of a lens, but im sure much less bothersome to a seasoned vet
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:58 PM   #15
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Yeah all the laughing girls last year looked very demeaned. They were smiling and having a great time at first, but once they realized where they were, what they were doing, and had an "OH MY GOD" moment when they noticed they were naked, I saw a few girls crying in the corner :/
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That sucks that was the best part of the show
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If you missed it, here is footage from day 1:

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Demeaning? You make the call.
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I heard its because the media caught wind that Girls Gone Wild is at Phoenix and they of course, want to catch a glimpse of Dupree playing dodgeball... naked would be even better.
That was the announcement I heard. Someone there tipped the media about Girls Gone Wild and the media came out as they were told to and where not aloud into the Hotel and because of that no more naked dodge ball.

For all those claiming it was because of the media it wasn't the media, they didn't take away our rights, climb down from the bashing band wagon and agenda crazy point of view. haha The hotel canceled it because they didn't want their liquor license taken away.
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Dunno how it's not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls.
Why? Because it can simply be taken for granted that nudity is a demeaning state for women? Or is it that the nudity is public? Or is it the dodgeball that does it? And what about men? It would be demeaning just for women or men too?
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It is your own belief that says nudity is a demeaning state. Obviously the girls participating do not share your belief.

Its not a broad belief shared by all, it is an INDIVIDUAL belief / state of mind. Don't try to act like it needs to be forced onto everyone
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Dunno how it's not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls.
I know we can disagree and stuff, that's cool, but I will explain how it is not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls. Being a woman myself I am so fucking sick of people saying it’s demeaning to girls doing porn, like we are some kind of brainless fools who can't make decisions for ourselves. Like we are being tricked into sex because we are too stupid and man can trick us into bed or into taking our clothes off for the camera. WRONG! I am a woman I make my own decisions. If a girl wants to take off her clothes and fuck that is HER decision and if she regrets it later she can only blame herself. The women's lib shit in this country has gotten out of hand. The 60's are over. They are so stupid they don't even realize they are hurting women. Check out the NOW organization, they think Victoria Secret models are bad for women and society. Like women are too stupid to realize some girls are models and thin and some girls are curvy and chunky. If we see a thin model we will kill ourselves trying to be them, even though I am thin haha it's fucking stupid. We can handle seeing other girls who are pretty and have nice bodies. They don’t need to hide them from us. I can only image how these men hating women feel about porn.

Anyway point is women are just as smart as you, and other men, and they can make any decision they want, freely. If they want to take their clothes off and have fun it's not demeaning. Demeaning would be if someone stripped down a girl who didn't want to and tossed her out into the middle of a crowed party. No one does that and if they did their ass would be kicked in less than 5 seconds with the guys around here!
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Why should they be allowed in if they haven't registered? That's stupid. It's a private event, the media doesn't have any right to demand they be able to cover whatever they want. Imagine someone walking around and trying to get into every exclusive event just because they have a camera and claim to be media. And then bitching about it when they aren't allowed in.
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Perhaps the media is bored now with all the Cactus league MLB teams heading out of AZ and to their respective opening day venues. So. they want to oogle the beautiful ladies at the Forum.

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I know we can disagree and stuff, that's cool, but I will explain how it is not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls. Being a woman myself I am so fucking sick of people saying it?s demeaning to girls doing porn, like we are some kind of brainless fools who can't make decisions for ourselves. Like we are being tricked into sex because we are too stupid and man can trick us into bed or into taking our clothes off for the camera. WRONG! I am a woman I make my own decisions. If a girl wants to take off her clothes and fuck that is HER decision and if she regrets it later she can only blame herself. The women's lib shit in this country has gotten out of hand. The 60's are over. They are so stupid they don't even realize they are hurting women. Check out the NOW organization, they think Victoria Secret models are bad for women and society. Like women are too stupid to realize some girls are models and thin and some girls are curvy and chunky. If we see a thin model we will kill ourselves trying to be them, even though I am thin haha it's fucking stupid. We can handle seeing other girls who are pretty and have nice bodies. They don?t need to hide them from us. I can only image how these men hating women feel about porn.

Anyway point is women are just as smart as you, and other men, and they can make any decision they want, freely. If they want to take their clothes off and have fun it's not demeaning. Demeaning would be if someone stripped down a girl who didn't want to and tossed her out into the middle of a crowed party. No one does that and if they did their ass would be kicked in less than 5 seconds with the guys around here!
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gotta love the idiots

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...alker0328.html
The First Amendment slap is ridiculous. It's a private event, held at a private establishment. Just because the media wants to cover a story doesn't mean they have a right to step foot into every private event in the world. Am I anti-1st Amendment if I don't want them covering me having sex with my girlfriend?
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But I think naked dodgeball is pretty lame.

Dunno how it's not embarrassing and demeaning for the girls.
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Yeah all the laughing girls last year looked very demeaned. They were smiling and having a great time at first, but once they realized where they were, what they were doing, and had an "OH MY GOD" moment when they noticed they were naked, I saw a few girls crying in the corner :/
I take it this is a sarcastic remark?
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Couldn't the girls have still played dodgeball in shorts/bikinis?



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This is totally the pits. I can totally understand how the mission palms does not want to lose their liquor license. Imagine a forum w/o booze!! LOL Instead we can have a cake and punch forum!! NOT.
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I remember how traumatized last year's girls were. They were so distraught they were ripping off their booty shorts and bras in front of everybody, the poor dears. Then they started making out in the middle of the tennis court and bending over to flash their cooches at the crowd. I guess that's the equivalent of cutting their hair off in a supreme state of grief?
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