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Old 03-26-2008, 07:50 PM   #1
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Islam is a Peaceful Religion ... ?????

I've been analyzing the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts.

I'm WIDE Open Minded and accepting/tolerant of others.


However, how are we supposed to believe that all the Violence committed by followers of Islam upon others - INCLUDING Other Muslims(Shia VS Sunni they burn each other in the streets) ... is isolated to only a "Minority of Extremists"??


How are they a Minority ... when Mobs of people flood the streets and cheer when they ("The Terrorists" According To the Western World) kill others Including Other Muslims.???

How is That A Peaceful Faith???



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I am not a Catholic or a Christian or any of their other factions, but I remember Pope Benedict XVI saying that Islam was a religion of the sword and taking a lot of heat for it. Funny thing is he was 100% right...
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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
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I am not a Catholic or a Christian or any of their other factions, but I remember Pope Benedict XVI saying that Islam was a religion of the sword and taking a lot of heat for it. Funny thing is he was 100% right...
And non violent Muslims need to make a stand or risk being judged as a whole.

Are non violent Muslims not true believers ... or are violent Muslims criminals?
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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
yup, there is always a time when the "good" has to destroy the "evil". I'm not associated with ANY religion but catholicism is a "corporation" first, religion second. They are nothing more than roman paganism mixed with christianity.

I hate bible thumpers and have actually been in FIST fights with 2 different "christian" PASTORS which has lead me to give up on any form of organized religion. If people like that are supposed to lead a church I don't want to follow!

Muslim/Islam is FUCKED up because those 'stan countries government is based around the religion and they're willing to kill innocent bystanders. No country should be centered on a religion. EVERYBODY should have religious freedoms. Any time you hear about a truly fucked up "law" or things being done to people because of a fucked up "law" guess where it is?

can't we all just get all along? *puff puff pass*
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How is That A Peaceful Faith???
Where is the outrage from their clergy?
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Where is the outrage from their clergy?
why would they be outraged? they're the ones who tape on the bombs
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why would they be outraged? they're the ones who tape on the bombs
Hahah.... So fucking True...

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why would they be outraged? they're the ones who tape on the bombs
It was a rhetorical question ..... The lack of outrage should answer all questions about what Muslims believe.
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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
budhism is a dharmic religion same as hinduism
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White Christians have killed, maimed and raped more than ANYBODY else

it's quite simple - we, the people, are the worst animals on this planet, unless we get genetically modified we'll keep killing each other and we'll keep finding "good reasons" to justify it

do you seriously think that religiong is what causes all this hatred, wars and murders??? if all the people become non-believers right this moment , if there's only one race and one nationality on Earth, we'll still carry on with the hatred and the wars
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And non violent Muslims need to make a stand or risk being judged as a whole.

Are non violent Muslims not true believers ... or are violent Muslims criminals?
There is no such thing as a non violent muslim.

Islam does not teach tolorance and call's for enslavement, Death and torture to non believers.
Islam at it's inherent core does not allow for tolorance or cultural diversity.

It is basically one notch below Christianity ( Only thing Christianity has going for it is aceptance of cultural diversity and the respect for the law of the land Islam DOES NOT!) in its non sensical brainwashing stone age bullshit. When are you people going to realise that Islam is an uncompromising belief, when are you people gonna stop thinking that fucken Islamic fuck heads have an ounce of compassion can be reasoned with?

I am telling ya folks the more of them fucken retards we kill today the better the future shall be.
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heh.. if you think it about it is really true.. they try to spread as far as they can and they will kill for it.
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I am not a Catholic or a Christian or any of their other factions, but I remember Pope Benedict XVI saying that Islam was a religion of the sword and taking a lot of heat for it. Funny thing is he was 100% right...
Ever actually read the Bible, especially the Old Testement. Ever read about the history of the Christian churches the first 1800 or so years they existed. Quite violent.
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One more thread for all the morons of GFY

I could answer the idiot who claims to have ?analyzed the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts? by telling him there are more Muslims in China alone than in whole Middle East (where he believes ?Muslims are burning each other?). That alone would ruin his ?majority of Muslims are terrorists?.

Or I could say to that moron who wants ?Muslim clergy? to make a statement, THERE IS NO AUTORIZED MUSLIM CLERGY like you have in other religions. Islam is a PERSONAL religion.

But I am not going to say any of that because there is no point in arguing with morons.

Instead I will tell you this: WE OWN YOUR ASS!!!!! Soon you will even have a first MUSLIM PRESIDENT! In 50 years there will be more MUSLIMS in all your countries than anyone else. WE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US
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White Christians have killed, maimed and raped more than ANYBODY else

it's quite simple - we, the people, are the worst animals on this planet, unless we get genetically modified we'll keep killing each other and we'll keep finding "good reasons" to justify it

do you seriously think that religiong is what causes all this hatred, wars and murders??? if all the people become non-believers right this moment , if there's only one race and one nationality on Earth, we'll still carry on with the hatred and the wars
Bingo...
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There is no such thing as a non violent muslim.

Islam does not teach tolorance and call's for enslavement, Death and torture to non believers.
Islam at it's inherent core does not allow for tolorance or cultural diversity.

It is basically one notch below Christianity ( Only thing Christianity has going for it is aceptance of cultural diversity and the respect for the law of the land Islam DOES NOT!) in its non sensical brainwashing stone age bullshit. When are you people going to realise that Islam is an uncompromising belief, when are you people gonna stop thinking that fucken Islamic fuck heads have an ounce of compassion can be reasoned with?

I am telling ya folks the more of them fucken retards we kill today the better the future shall be.
Are you serious??? Christian religions are just as non-tolerant and are just as uncompromising as any other religion... And if it came down to it, they would fight against the laws of the land if it was at odds with their faith... At their core, all religions HAVE to be.. It's what the bible actually teaches them... BUT... in order to keep the money rolling in and the asses in the pews, they "soft" the dogma to appear more tolerant etc. Don't fool yourself... Why are NA muslims more tolerant etc.? Money.. A "softening" of the dogma in order to make it more comfortable for them... If Christianity actually followed the bible the way they're supposed to, they'd be just as bad... There are no shades of grey for god...
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how's this a christianity VS muslim thing? all I can say is THE CRUSADES! they're both fuckin crazy at their core.

Sure christianity has gone soft for now but they'll be back eventually... oh wait the wars fought by christians are going to be hidden under a "war on terror"

you just wait eventually we'll be at war with every fucked up 'stan country.

I used to be so afraid of a war with China but the muslim infestation is a much bigger threat than the chinese armies.
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There is no such thing as a non violent muslim.

Islam does not teach tolorance and call's for enslavement, Death and torture to non believers.
Islam at it's inherent core does not allow for tolorance or cultural diversity.

It is basically one notch below Christianity ( Only thing Christianity has going for it is aceptance of cultural diversity and the respect for the law of the land Islam DOES NOT!) in its non sensical brainwashing stone age bullshit. When are you people going to realise that Islam is an uncompromising belief, when are you people gonna stop thinking that fucken Islamic fuck heads have an ounce of compassion can be reasoned with?

I am telling ya folks the more of them fucken retards we kill today the better the future shall be.
you are a fucking idiot. I lived in Indonesia (lmost populated Muslim country in the world) for almost 5 years and never ever had problems. Yes, Islam brings in the most violant fucks in the world but it all because they have guys like you who think that they have notch over others..
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Show me the peaceful religion then? They all have wackos.

Most religions require that you accept their god as the only.. And have consequences if you're not.

They lose me there.

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I could answer the idiot who claims to have ?analyzed the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts? by telling him there are more Muslims in China alone than in whole Middle East (where he believes ?Muslims are burning each other?). That alone would ruin his ?majority of Muslims are terrorists?.

Or I could say to that moron who wants ?Muslim clergy? to make a statement, THERE IS NO AUTORIZED MUSLIM CLERGY like you have in other religions. Islam is a PERSONAL religion.

But I am not going to say any of that because there is no point in arguing with morons.

Instead I will tell you this: WE OWN YOUR ASS!!!!! Soon you will even have a first MUSLIM PRESIDENT! In 50 years there will be more MUSLIMS in all your countries than anyone else. WE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US
Your first statements set out to debunk the idea that muslims are inherently violent, and point out that the religion is personal with no governing body. To which I agree is the majority. Shit my girlfriend is from Iran.

You say that the religion is personal and non-violent and then stick your head up your ass by saying:

"WE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD"

"WE OWN YOUR ASS!!!!!"

"THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US"


Typical thinking...absolutely no comprehension of reason in arguments and complete disregard of rational thought. You know, those disciplines of thought that led to the invention of that computer you spout bullshit on. Way to help your religion out!
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One more thread for all the morons of GFY

I could answer the idiot who claims to have ?analyzed the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts? by telling him there are more Muslims in China alone than in whole Middle East (where he believes ?Muslims are burning each other?). That alone would ruin his ?majority of Muslims are terrorists?.
Um that would be Indonesia.

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McCain is Muslim? Neither is Obama
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All religions are though.
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Most religions I believe give the human soul a sense of hope and meaning(I am not religiously inclined), it is the human nature and its wrong use of these believes which make some people into fanatics or worse, I think you would all agree that most religious people are not criminally minded or fanatics. Christians are by no means exempt, mayor horrors have been purposed in the name of christian religion as well, for more than 1000 years. It is not so much religion, but how it is used as a means to demean human nature.
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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
Even Buddhist can riot and rampage.

Islam is a peaceful religion, much like Christianity. Which did not stop us killing people in their millions all in the name of "Love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek." Jesus Christ.

Islam is 500 years behind us, largely the people who follow it are more than that behind us. Islam is the tool used by the leaders who are after power. The fight in Basra is no longer about religion, it's about one group gaining control of the oil resources. Which is the reason we are there.

Remember they preach hate against us Westerners and proceed to kill more of each other. Words are nothing, it's actions which reveal the truth.
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Your first statements set out to debunk the idea that muslims are inherently violent, and point out that the religion is personal with no governing body. To which I agree is the majority. Shit my girlfriend is from Iran.

You say that the religion is personal and non-violent and then stick your head up your ass by saying:

"WE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD"

"WE OWN YOUR ASS!!!!!"

"THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US"


Typical thinking...absolutely no comprehension of reason in arguments and complete disregard of rational thought. You know, those disciplines of thought that led to the invention of that computer you spout bullshit on. Way to help your religion out!
One more idiot not really worth my time but I will reply anyway...

Did I say we are VIOLENTLY taking over the world??? Muslims are taking over the world with much higher natility rate than any other group of people?

So again, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US!
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I've been analyzing the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts.

I'm WIDE Open Minded and accepting/tolerant of others.


However, how are we supposed to believe that all the Violence committed by followers of Islam upon others - INCLUDING Other Muslims(Shia VS Sunni they burn each other in the streets) ... is isolated to only a "Minority of Extremists"??


How are they a Minority ... when Mobs of people flood the streets and cheer when they ("The Terrorists" According To the Western World) kill others Including Other Muslims.???

How is That A Peaceful Faith???



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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
LOL that's not true....

Christianity and Islam are both products of a time where you needed to make a story up to control a society and build a good set of rules...

If you look at the ten commandments in the bible for example...

Those are 10 good rules to sustain order in a society. Religion was a mean to avoid anarky in the old days... It has been rebuild and exploited a million times since that but that's not the religions fault, more like it's weakness.

Hate, war and destruction are what the exploiters have used them fore. But I don't expect people like you to understand that hehe

I am a non believer myself and I lack understanding for the people who needs to believe, but I do try to understand...
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Are you serious??? Christian religions are just as non-tolerant and are just as uncompromising as any other religion... And if it came down to it, they would fight against the laws of the land if it was at odds with their faith... At their core, all religions HAVE to be.. It's what the bible actually teaches them... BUT... in order to keep the money rolling in and the asses in the pews, they "soft" the dogma to appear more tolerant etc. Don't fool yourself... Why are NA muslims more tolerant etc.? Money.. A "softening" of the dogma in order to make it more comfortable for them... If Christianity actually followed the bible the way they're supposed to, they'd be just as bad... There are no shades of grey for god...
Believing that Jesus Christ is the son of God (some christians believe Jesus Christ was god himself) and was crucified to redeem mankind of its sins for all that believe unto him...is what makes one a Christian and Jesus taught "obey the law of the land" and "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasars". One of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill...and Jesus taught one step further than this and said one should not even get angry with ones neighbor. He taught that if one is struck on the cheek to turn the other cheek. He taught that the meek shall inhierit the earth and will sit at the side of his father in heaven. He taught that if one asks for your shirt to give him your coat also. In addition he taught to love one another as one loves himself. etc. ect. Not hardly a violent teaching for Christians to follow...now is it?
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Muslims are taking over the world with much higher natility rate than any other group of people?

So again, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US!
1) Why are you taking over, whats the reason?
2) Why are you so proud of that?
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there are more Muslims in China alone than in whole Middle East (where he believes ?Muslims are burning each other?).
Doesn't seem to be true.

Muslims by country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#

Iran 64 million
Afghanistan 31 million
Iraq 27 million
China 20 million

"How many Muslims are there in China?
There does not seem to be any consensus on this number. Most estimates range from as low as 10 million to as high as 100 million Muslims in China. However the figure of 25 million Muslims seems more plausible."
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:17 AM   #37
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Religion is generally a mask for a greater control. It's all about realising your potential. I personally think it's about time to ditch religion, we probably don't need it now.
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There is no such thing as a non violent muslim.

Islam does not teach tolorance and call's for enslavement, Death and torture to non believers.
Islam at it's inherent core does not allow for tolorance or cultural diversity.

It is basically one notch below Christianity ( Only thing Christianity has going for it is aceptance of cultural diversity and the respect for the law of the land Islam DOES NOT!) in its non sensical brainwashing stone age bullshit. When are you people going to realise that Islam is an uncompromising belief, when are you people gonna stop thinking that fucken Islamic fuck heads have an ounce of compassion can be reasoned with?

I am telling ya folks the more of them fucken retards we kill today the better the future shall be.
The christian lobby in Pennsylvania came very close to coercing a school board into teaching creationism in the public schools. It took a court decision to reverse the board.

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"When she spoke, MI5 had identified around 1,600 individuals who we believed posed a direct threat to national security and public safety, because of their support for terrorism. That figure today would be at least 2,000."
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Religion has been the reason for warfare since the beginning of time, that's why I believe we should bury it now!

I know there are good teachings in the Bible and also in the Coran, but the world is full of idiots who don't seem to understand the real message, and it is also full of those who take advantage of the idiots to dominate countries, kill their own enemies and spread hatred all over the globe.

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other than Taoism and Buddism, religions are based on hate, war, and destruction, and are the root cause of most of the worlds problems.
Stupidest thing I ever read. Jesus never preached any of those things, quite the opposite on all accounts.
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Religion is a general topic to discuss. We can't force some people to understand into what we believe for. People fight for what they think is right because it does something good for them. They will never trust and allow it to control in their life, if they haven't had a satisfaction and benefit into it.

The only thing we need to do about religion is to respect other people's belief.
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Stupidest thing I ever read. Jesus never preached any of those things, quite the opposite on all accounts.
For the 1st time ever, i have to agree with Falcon.
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personally every muslim person ive met has always been nice, polite and showed no resentment towards be because i wasnt muslim, i like to reserve my judgement of people on a person by person basis and their actions...
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personally every muslim person ive met has always been nice, polite and showed no resentment towards be because i wasnt muslim, i like to reserve my judgement of people on a person by person basis and their actions...
I live in Toronto, probably the most multi cultural city on earth. I have been to many mosques, have lots of muslim friends, my sister even dated a muslim guy whose from Trinidad for 8+ years. I've never had a bad experience with any of them, at school or otherwise.

Most importantly, NONE OF THEM EVER ASKED ME IF I HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ALLAH!!!!

None of them told me I was going to hell.

None of them came to my door trying to spread their religion.

If I went to their mosque, they welcomed me with open arms and gave me delicious food to eat. Never a mention of joining them, or "will they see me next sunday?"

They never tried to save me from myself either.

I can think of MANY times where a Christian has taken it on themselves to do these things.
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Stupidest thing I ever read. Jesus never preached any of those things, quite the opposite on all accounts.
Really? So what happens to all the muslims, hindus, taoists, buddhists, and people of other faiths, when they die?

Any real Christian will tell you plainly - They go to hell, to burn daily for eternity.
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