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GrouchyAdmin 03-25-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 13976522)
It's more like "If you aren't a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative at 30 you've got no brain."

That is much closer to the original quote, however, most in this thread don't appreciate taking either title. :thumbsup

theking 03-25-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13976462)
If people came to your country with guns and killed your family, you might even pick up a gun yourself and shoot one of them!

Only your side of the story matters?

What does this post have to do with my response to Sherm? BTW...the insurgents for the most part have been minority Sunnites and foreign fighters. The Sunnites for the most part were members of the Baathist Party which controlled Iraq. They have been fighting in an effort to regain power over Iraq and the Shias. Foreign fighters fight because they do not like Western countries...which includes Canada...but specifically the USA. Of course there are some fighters that fight because their families were killed by the coalition forces...but in the past couple of years or so there has been more Iraqis killed by Iraqis and foreign fighters than by Coalition forces.

EZRhino 03-25-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by severe (Post 13975320)
congress never voted away their power to declare war and congress authorized use of military force in iraq.

Totaly agree. If I remember correctly, a certain senator named Clinton, stood in front of her fellow senators and made an argument for using force against Iraq.

directfiesta 03-25-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13976624)
What does this post have to do with my response to Sherm? BTW...the insurgents for the most part have been minority Sunnites and foreign fighters. The Sunnites for the most part were members of the Baathist Party which controlled Iraq. They have been fighting in an effort to regain power over Iraq and the Shias. Foreign fighters fight because they do not like Western countries...which includes Canada...but specifically the USA. Of course there are some fighters that fight because their families were killed by the coalition forces...but in the past couple of years or so there has been more Iraqis killed by Iraqis and foreign fighters than by Coalition forces.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Iraq forces battle Basra militias

Can't tell you to stop listening to Fox Noise, since you have no TeeVee in your trailer park ....

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:07 PM

Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco, England, Germany, Turkey, Pakistan, India...etc. are all actively fighting terrorism and helping the United States.
Terrorism is not just a threat to US national security, Middle Eastern regional security, it's a threat to world security.
We can't let dozens of Islamic countries appearing all over the world, armed with nuclear weapons. It's IMPOSSIBLE. It would be a death warrant for the planet.

We have destroyed Communism, we will destroy Islamism.

The US sends the soldiers, and Japanese / Chinese / Europeans provide financing.

http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Jihadi.../dp/0446199575
The Nuclear Jihadist: The True Story of the Man Who Sold the World's Most Dangerous Secrets...And How We Could Have Stopped Him.

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:09 PM

http://www.cyberread.com/files/_xml_...6861-cover.jpg

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:15 PM

Oil price is above $100 and Iranians are rationing gasoline in their country.

Quote:

...there is rationing of 100 liters a month of gasoline for each household -- the equivalent of two full tanks for the average family car.
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=58933
An MI6 report states: "The reason for this state of affairs is clear. The regime's insistence on diverting an increasing amount of energy and resources in pursuit of the holy grail of nuclear enrichment and the subsequent UN economic sanctions that policy has attracted. It means the ayatollahs are unable to maintain the oil-refining facilities for domestic purposes."

Mr Pheer 03-25-2008 05:26 PM

This will be the 3rd election in a row where I can say I honestly dont like any of the candidates in either the republican or democratic parties. Just cant vote for anyone that I feel isnt competant enough to run the country.

Surely there must be someone better than the clown thats running it now or the clowns that are trying to get nominated.

theking 03-25-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13976707)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Iraq forces battle Basra militias

Can't tell you to stop listening to Fox Noise, since you have no TeeVee in your trailer park ....

Ahh...what is it that you do not understand about "for the most part"? No need to answer because I really am not interested in your copy and pastes or anything that you have to say...about any subject...now feel free to :321GFY

shermo 03-25-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13976435)
Pigshit. The kill ratio is more than 20-1 and the average kill ratio for US forces ranges from 10-1 to 100-1.

That's still a lot of our men dying with nothing to show for it. I don't see Iraqis waving their white flags in surrender. And even if they did, what do we accomplish?

Their ex-leader is dead. The US leaders aren't pulling back, because they like making their loot while rebuilding what we destroyed. What exactly are these men dying for? The service will tell you that it's for our freedom, but it's really not. It's not to stop a Jihad. It's not to deactivate WMD's. It's not to set Iraqis free (because as was stated earlier, the people in the US don't give a fuck about making other countries happy). It's to fatten their wallets. If it were for freedom and our leaders weren't there fighting, then these people aren't really our leaders, are they?

Wars should be fought by the political heads in every country...Instead they like playing chess with the youth, shedding a lot of blood, making a lot of money, and throwing their countries into economic messes.

I have a lot of love for our soldiers, what they have done and what they stand for. It's just too bad that these political leaders don't give 2 shits about them once they stop fighting. :Oh crap

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 13976805)
Just cant vote for anyone that I feel isnt competant enough to run the country.

The people running the country are business leaders, senior government employees and the military.

All are unelected, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..................

It's just a matter of principle, conservatives want the country to be represented by a conservative. Liberals and some moderates (dem. or rep.) wrongly believe they are voting for change.

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13976821)
It's to fatten their wallets.

Their wallets? In the military, at government, and most business leaders, are workalcoholic, most are patriots but pragmatic, more or less greedy, they are NOT lazy uneducated pornographers blowing money on sports cars.

So please give me a break, you don't even know what you are talking about.

theking 03-25-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 13976805)
This will be the 3rd election in a row where I can say I honestly dont like any of the candidates in either the republican or democratic parties. Just cant vote for anyone that I feel isnt competant enough to run the country.

Surely there must be someone better than the clown thats running it now or the clowns that are trying to get nominated.

For the first time in my voting life...the last time around...I could not bring myself to vote for either of the nominees...and though I have not yet made up my mind...it may also be this time around.

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:43 PM

"Women control 83 percent of household spending".
"Women buy 81 percent of all products and services."

directfiesta 03-25-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13976809)
Ahh...what is it that you do not understand about "for the most part"? No need to answer because I really am not interested in your copy and pastes or anything that you have to say...about any subject...now feel free to :321GFY

open wide .... haaaaaaaaaa.... shoving it down your toothless throat .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The 'myth' of Iraq's foreign fighters

this means the US and Iraq " feed the myth" that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.

come on. pigshit ..... :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 03-25-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976733)
Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco, England, Germany, Turkey, Pakistan, India...etc. are all actively fighting terrorism and helping the United States.

Almost all the hijackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden and his cronies are believed to be hiding out in Pakistan. They are doing a bang up job of "actively fighting terrorism".

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976733)
We can't let dozens of Islamic countries appearing all over the world, armed with nuclear weapons. It's IMPOSSIBLE. It would be a death warrant for the planet.

The only two Islamic countries with nuclear weapons are Pakistan and India. Why are you not demanding that we go in and destroy them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976733)
We have destroyed Communism, we will destroy Islamism.

Have you ever heard of China?

Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.

I'm not arguing a side on this issue. I'm just astonished that someone could have such little knowledge of the world and his own government. You didn't even know what kind of economy we have nor what kind of government we have. Hard to take anything you say with much credibility.

shermo 03-25-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976843)
Their wallets? In the military, at government, and most business leaders, are workalcoholic, most are patriots but pragmatic, more or less greedy, they are NOT lazy uneducated pornographers blowing money on sports cars.

So please give me a break, you don't even know what you are talking about.

Their wallets...I didn't stutter. Halliburton should be all I need to say. Do you have some secret knowledge outside of Fox news that we should know about? Are you on "the inside"? Get off your high horse and realize that we are all just pawns.

What is with your uneducated, lazy kick? Do you think all webmasters dropped out of high school, don't contribute to society, and don't have businesses outside of selling porn? The way you talk, you sound like you have failed at selling porn and are bitter of other's success.

Take a break and stop feeding into the bullshit that is being fed to you. Let's just agree to disagree, and move on. It's the American way.

http://www.popamericana.com/!/more%2...2520skools.jpg
Dumb Down the Population - Beef Up The Military - MAINTAIN FEAR!

theking 03-25-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13976905)
open wide .... haaaaaaaaaa.... shoving it down your toothless throat .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The 'myth' of Iraq's foreign fighters

this means the US and Iraq " feed the myth" that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.

come on. pigshit ..... :1orglaugh

You piece of shit..."the insurgents for the most part have been minority Sunnites and foreign fighters." Where did I give a percentage or refer to being the "backbone"? More copy and paste...which is the only thing that you appear to be good at. For the last time...:321GFY

xmas13 03-25-2008 05:58 PM

The point was, you never vote for change unless u r a naive, it's only a matter of principle.

I also denounce the cult of the amateur on the internet, the cult of incompetence and non-professionalism.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/WebCast/story?id=3432007

It's an epidemic, amateurs giving their worthless opinion on economic or foreign policy issues. It's really annoying.

"Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave." - Arnold Schwarzenegger. U.S. News & World Report (1990)

The sheeps, without any background in security, economics or international relations.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...25sheep_lg.jpg

theking 03-25-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13976933)
Almost all the hijackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden and his cronies are believed to be hiding out in Pakistan. They are doing a bang up job of "actively fighting terrorism".


The only two Islamic countries with nuclear weapons are Pakistan and India. Why are you not demanding that we go in and destroy them?


Have you ever heard of China?

Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.

I'm not arguing a side on this issue. I'm just astonished that someone could have such little knowledge of the world and his own government. You didn't even know what kind of economy we have nor what kind of government we have. Hard to take anything you say with much credibility.

You are so much smater than he is...congrats. BTW...just when did India become an Islamic nation...educate me please?

pocketkangaroo 03-25-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13976973)
You are so much smater than he is...congrats. BTW...just when did India become an Islamic nation...educate me please?

I thought 20% of India was Islam. Don't they have like the 2nd or 3rd largest Islamic population in the World?

DirtyProfits 03-25-2008 06:15 PM

I AGREE, I TOTALLY AGREE...... WITH NONE OF YOU! :upsidedow

How I love stereotypes :helpme

GregE 03-25-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 13976805)
This will be the 3rd election in a row where I can say I honestly dont like any of the candidates in either the republican or democratic parties. Just cant vote for anyone that I feel isnt competant enough to run the country.

I'm not thrilled with any of the choices either, but consider if you will that one of them (the Republican) wants to make the internet look like this.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/200...al_540x367.jpg

Meanwhile, the other two (both of the Democrats) have promised to leave it the way it is.

It's called net neutrality and it's all about whether people like us will continue to make money on the world wide web :2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 13976805)
Surely there must be someone better than the clown thats running it now or the clowns that are trying to get nominated.

Admittedly the choices aren't very inspiring :(

Nonetheless, I kinda like what I do for a living and I plan on voting accordingly.

DirtyDanza 03-25-2008 07:48 PM

just a simple question to the ones that think the gov now is just trying to fatten their wallets...


uhhhhhhh hello isint thatthe name of the game... do you do internet porn for free? were all trying to fatten our wallets.. how about this then.. all democrats send me free traffic with no aff code and let me take the sales then.. since all you care about is helping human kind.. thathelps them.. it gives pervs something to stroke to for the night...

tony286 03-25-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13977543)
just a simple question to the ones that think the gov now is just trying to fatten their wallets...


uhhhhhhh hello isint thatthe name of the game... do you do internet porn for free? were all trying to fatten our wallets.. how about this then.. all democrats send me free traffic with no aff code and let me take the sales then.. since all you care about is helping human kind.. thathelps them.. it gives pervs something to stroke to for the night...

Are you kidding who do you think will pay for this 3 trillion dollar debt? Two of the biggest tax increases during peacetime were during Reagan. One of the reasons for the toilet this economy is in,is tax cuts during war time.

Fap 03-25-2008 07:55 PM

ewww politics

nico-t 03-25-2008 07:55 PM

danza talking out of his ass again... surprising...

shermo 03-25-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13977543)
just a simple question to the ones that think the gov now is just trying to fatten their wallets...


uhhhhhhh hello isint thatthe name of the game... do you do internet porn for free? were all trying to fatten our wallets.. how about this then.. all democrats send me free traffic with no aff code and let me take the sales then.. since all you care about is helping human kind.. thathelps them.. it gives pervs something to stroke to for the night...

Come on Danza...there's a big difference. I'm not killing soldiers to sell porn. :1orglaugh

You're a smart guy..We can just agree to disagree...Don't throw out something silly like that!

collegeboobies 03-25-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976872)
"Women control 83 percent of household spending".
"Women buy 81 percent of all products and services."



Women buy 81 percent of all products and services. HAHAH Yeah fucking right. I promise women are not the biggest purchasers of the fleshlight.

DirtyDanza 03-25-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13977565)
Come on Danza...there's a big difference. I'm not killing soldiers to sell porn. :1orglaugh

You're a smart guy..We can just agree to disagree...Don't throw out something silly like that!

oh for sure.... im just keeping my post as short as possible Ive already made enough enemies on GFY LOL but really and truly every last one of us would do the same damn thing...

Sherm if I were pres and you were my VP and I saw a way to make your business more money don't you think I would?

I sure would hope you would do the same thing

DirtyDanza 03-25-2008 08:10 PM

and just for the record..

I do NOT think everything bush has done was the greatest things to do and personally I can't wait for him to be gone... but at the same time... the worst rep pres will always be better than the best dem

tony286 03-25-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13977603)
and just for the record..

I do NOT think everything bush has done was the greatest things to do and personally I can't wait for him to be gone... but at the same time... the worst rep pres will always be better than the best dem

You dont realize if it wasnt for the clinton yrs most here would be working at starbucks. lol Your a cool guy but you have to learn your history from books not pundits.

Holly 03-25-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13977565)
Come on Danza...there's a big difference. I'm not killing soldiers to sell porn. :1orglaugh

You're a smart guy!

Can we take a vote on that?

shermo 03-26-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13977592)
oh for sure.... im just keeping my post as short as possible Ive already made enough enemies on GFY LOL but really and truly every last one of us would do the same damn thing...

Sherm if I were pres and you were my VP and I saw a way to make your business more money don't you think I would?

I sure would hope you would do the same thing

I would do the same thing, but not if it involved fucking up the lives of others. So far we have young men and women dying overseas for oil and building contracts and we have a HUGE deficit (which is a combo of the housing situation and the war).

The leader is supposed to be for the people. As it stands, his pockets are fatter while the rest of us are getting fucked. How anybody can support a regime that doesn't have their best interests in mind, is beyond me. The dollar is useless overseas, inflation is hitting and we are just about in a deep recession.

Net neutrality alone is enough for me to not vote republican. People need to start looking past political parties, and looking at the issues. Mccain is basically Bush part 2...Do we want another moron leading this country? You already said that you can't wait for Bush's reign to end, so let it end.

I'm not saying the Democrats are any better, but at least there is a chance of a little improvement. After 8 years of this Bush shit, America is now the laughing stock of the world. We're still so nationalistic, that we've fed ourselves with this "We are the best" bullshit to the point that now people are seeing that we are in fact, full of shit. Maybe we used to be the best, but now we are anything but.

I don't care for any of the candidates to be honest...I'm just saying that I doubt a Democrat with a different approach can fuck things up any worse that they are already.

P.S. The president is just a figurehead with veto power...unfortunately Bush likes to use his veto power, so his role has actually become significant. :Oh crap

Kevsh 03-26-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13975410)
Know what? Fuck you. If you think we are going to elect our president based on what the rest of the world thinks you are a fucking idiot.

Hate to break the news to you, but thanks to your Republican government your country is slowly being bought by the rest of the world (and with the value of your dollar, it's actually getting quite cheap) ... so, what you think or who you want to vote for may some day be irrelevant.

(I'm exaggerating obviously, but the truth is that the meltdown of your economy has led to your debt being bailed out by foreigner interests. I hope that makes you sleep well at night, I'd personally be a tad nervous!)

Fleshlight Team 03-26-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboobies (Post 13977590)
Women buy 81 percent of all products and services. HAHAH Yeah fucking right. I promise women are not the biggest purchasers of the fleshlight.

*slowly backs out of thread*

Martin 03-26-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13975303)
And when you support a war that you are physically able to fight in but don't, you are a coward.

lol.:2 cents:

J. Falcon 03-26-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 13975975)
Forgiving it for what?

What happened on September 11, 2001 gave this country every right it needed to strike out at anybody and everybody it saw as culpable.

The fact that our idiot president handled the situation as poorly as he did doesn't change that premise one bit.

Rest assured, if something like 9-11 should ever happen again, no matter who's in the White House, this country will kick some more ass and we won?t bother with getting your permission then either :321GFY

So I guess Iraq was responsible for the 9-11 attacks?

Ever stop to ask yourself, before you go attacking anybody you see as culpable, why the attacks took place? Maybe if you ask yourself this question, there will be less or maybe no attacks in the future.

J. Falcon 03-26-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13976733)

We have destroyed Communism, we will destroy Islamism.


All I can say is wow, how stupid can one human being be? To compare a relgion and a socialistic ideal is beyong even the dumbest posters on gfy.

cykoe6 03-26-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 13981731)
All I can say is wow, how stupid can one human being be? To compare a relgion and a socialistic ideal is beyong even the dumbest posters on gfy.

If you had even the slightest clue about either ideology you would realize that they are remarkably similar. They are both totalitarian, utopian doctrines which subjugate the rights and aspirations of individuals to a higher ideal. They both seek a perfect society and they both seek to impose their vision of a perfect society on the whole world through force.

directfiesta 03-26-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 13982220)
They both seek a perfect society and they both seek to impose their vision of a perfect society on the whole world through force.

... of whom are you talking about already ????

cykoe6 03-26-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13982270)
... of whom are you talking about already ????

I assume you are implying that the US is also guilty of such things like trying to impose its vision of a perfect society on the rest of the world under the banner of Bush's rhetoric about "spreading democracy." The difference is that the US is trying to stabilize the Middle East for the purpose of protecting its commercial and strategic interests....... good old fashioned imperialism. It is quite different then the internationalist utopian nature of Islamism or Communism.


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