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Old 03-21-2008, 09:36 AM   #1
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The surfers mind has now been programmed. You paysites are Fucked

Thanks to you illegal sites who have no clues of business, nor any work ethics, so you have to steal and generate a traffic flow to your site...
I know you are all operated and/or backed by sponsors. It's funny watching
you destroy the industry for what you think we be your security and
domination....

The surfer has now been progreammed to expect everything handed to him.

This was an email we got helping someone who didnt get their registration confirm email. Note at the bottom what he expects.. Does this look like a surfer who is going to reach into his wallet any time soon?


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Hi Mike:
Thanks for responding back. I had to open a new Gmail acoount, when I did, I messed up the email address. I corrected it and I did get the email back to confirm my registration.

I have another question for you though, I still can only view the videos for about 20 seconds, I was able to do this before I registered and thought after I registered I would be able to view the videos at least for 5 or 10 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? or is this just how the web site operates. Thanks again for all your help, you been very responsive and helpful.
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:37 AM   #2
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:44 AM   #3
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The industry has done a poor job training it's customers.
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:46 AM   #4
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I made sales today . So It's not working yet
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:50 AM   #5
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Is he complainning about 20 seconds clips on a freesite, is that it?
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:59 PM   #6
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Is he complainning about 20 seconds clips on a freesite, is that it?
I don't know
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:07 PM   #7
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Thanks to you illegal sites who have no clues of business, nor any work ethics, so you have to steal and generate a traffic flow to your site...
I know you are all operated and/or backed by sponsors. It's funny watching
you destroy the industry for what you think we be your security and
domination....

The surfer has now been progreammed to expect everything handed to him.

This was an email we got helping someone who didnt get their registration confirm email. Note at the bottom what he expects.. Does this look like a surfer who is going to reach into his wallet any time soon?


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Hi Mike:
Thanks for responding back. I had to open a new Gmail acoount, when I did, I messed up the email address. I corrected it and I did get the email back to confirm my registration.

I have another question for you though, I still can only view the videos for about 20 seconds, I was able to do this before I registered and thought after I registered I would be able to view the videos at least for 5 or 10 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? or is this just how the web site operates. Thanks again for all your help, you been very responsive and helpful.
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Yep it is sad man, far to many idiots in this industry, that have no clue about teasing the surfer and selling the membership to them.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:08 PM   #8
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Unless I just don't understand what he said...

It sounds like to me he knows exactly what is going on. The guy was getting 20 second clips, signed up for something and expected more than 20 second clips.

What else should they expect?
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:10 PM   #9
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Lol.....
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:43 PM   #10
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Lol.....
Lol?
I got an email from a member the other day who said:
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Hey mate, yeah, the site is ok, the content is ok, but TBH I can get more videos and variety for free at redtube.

I must say, your support is really good, though.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #11
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Unless I just don't understand what he said...

It sounds like to me he knows exactly what is going on. The guy was getting 20 second clips, signed up for something and expected more than 20 second clips.

What else should they expect?
I had the same confusion with this...
I re-read it a couple times and am still not sure...
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:17 PM   #12
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Are you sure he wasn't an idiot before he was reprogrammed?
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:05 PM   #13
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he just registered to be able to add his favorite galleries, and humor etc to his account, they think they get free full length videos inside for entering their gmail accounts they create on the spot lol. I can't help it, you dont know what ampland is, thats not my problem, but here i can help the retarded.. its a TGP
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:10 PM   #14
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Who the fuck cares about what some moron tgp surfer says in an email? I certainly don't.....My customers don't either.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:47 PM   #15
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speaking of morons
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:29 PM   #16
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:38 PM   #17
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Why do webmasters like to act tough..
You are all making it seem like its ok, for this industry to die.
I pity u fuckers .. The day your pay stops.
Better tuck it away grandpas ... Cos, everythin u are pluggin away today, will be worth crap, with this silly attitudes..
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:39 PM   #18
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I get emails like this all the time or people customers telling me about the tube sites and how I should add my videos LOL, yet most tell me how they don't have to join as many sites now since there they know of a few now and people still think all this free porn does not affect sales LOL, I hear it right from the fucking customer all the time. I set up polls in the members area and give away free shit to get them to answer my questions. People that don't run a pay site and act like tube sites are harmless are just as stupid as a white guy saying he knows what it is like to be black. (im a white guy) some people jerk off to TGP's and some by looking at their fucking mom, it all adds up at the end of the day.
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People just brushing this off are idiots. Think about it, the surfer thinks that once he logs in he will get full-length porn movies for free! just like tube sites.

Before tube sites came out surfers never expected to get full-length porn movies for free from the free porn type sites like link lists, TGPs, etc.....

the industry is just fucking itself up in the ass. to be honest i think the main reason is that when the less developed third-world countries got a little more advanced and they were able to get on the internet they found out they could make money on the web. and to them the couple of USD dollars they make from one sale is a shitload of money to them in their country so they don't mind fucking up the industry since those mediocre sales to them is worth alot more than it is to people living in more advanced countries. some of these people in third-world countries that make a few sales a month can support them for a whole month where they are from. in fact, it's alot more money than they would make at a regular job where they are from.

this just snow-balled and to stay competitive the rest of the adult industry started giving everything away. i say we ban the internet from third-world countries. third world countries don't make up most of our sales anyway, they just create adult webmasters that mess up the industry and take money out of our pockets while doing it.

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Old 03-21-2008, 08:27 PM   #20
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:34 PM   #21
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my sales are still great, just had to change things around a bit.
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:46 PM   #22
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Thanks to you illegal sites who have no clues of business, nor any work ethics, so you have to steal and generate a traffic flow to your site...
I know you are all operated and/or backed by sponsors. It's funny watching
you destroy the industry for what you think we be your security and
domination....

The surfer has now been progreammed to expect everything handed to him.

This was an email we got helping someone who didnt get their registration confirm email. Note at the bottom what he expects.. Does this look like a surfer who is going to reach into his wallet any time soon?


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Hi Mike:
Thanks for responding back. I had to open a new Gmail acoount, when I did, I messed up the email address. I corrected it and I did get the email back to confirm my registration.

I have another question for you though, I still can only view the videos for about 20 seconds, I was able to do this before I registered and thought after I registered I would be able to view the videos at least for 5 or 10 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? or is this just how the web site operates. Thanks again for all your help, you been very responsive and helpful.
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Thanks to you illegal sites who have no clues of business, nor any work ethics, so you have to steal and generate a traffic flow to your site...
I know you are all operated and/or backed by sponsors. It's funny watching
you destroy the industry for what you think we be your security and
domination....

The surfer has now been progreammed to expect everything handed to him.

This was an email we got helping someone who didnt get their registration confirm email. Note at the bottom what he expects.. Does this look like a surfer who is going to reach into his wallet any time soon?

It's the end of the woooooorrrrld as we know it, and I feeeel fiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnne.
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Go cry somewhere else, k, tks.
This board is for webmasters not surfers.
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Here's the thing that I can't help but think. For the ONE surfer that actually has the motivation to EMAIL you [and face it, a guy with his cock in his hand has other things on his mind] and tell you about tubes, how many THOUSANDS more just hit the back button andhit up the tube sites...
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Here's the thing that I can't help but think. For the ONE surfer that actually has the motivation to EMAIL you [and face it, a guy with his cock in his hand has other things on his mind] and tell you about tubes, how many THOUSANDS more just hit the back button andhit up the tube sites...
Good assumption.
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it sucks ;. webmasters are now gonna have to look for real jobs . .and face it most of us have like no education ! ! Mc Donalds here I come !
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We spend half out time giving away what we are trying to sell.
If things dont change we are fucked.
Try calling your attorney and asking for a free trial offer.
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a granny tgp surfer doesn't represent any kind of 'group' except other granny tgp surfers...

There is no pattern....Just a coincidence that has nothing to do with reality.

Con-clu-sion

move along....there is nothing to see here.
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We spend half out time giving away what we are trying to sell.
If things dont change we are fucked.
Try calling your attorney and asking for a free trial offer.
Yep we are the most fucked up biz in the world, and all some webmasters do is laugh about it
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What an idiot you are, i bet you are complete idiot.
So, you say Tube sites are opereted from 3-d world countries ?

Yes, right , with their couple of bucks per month they can afford
to pay for Tube bandwidth ?

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People just brushing this off are idiots. Think about it, the surfer thinks that once he logs in he will get full-length porn movies for free! just like tube sites.

Before tube sites came out surfers never expected to get full-length porn movies for free from the free porn type sites like link lists, TGPs, etc.....

the industry is just fucking itself up in the ass. to be honest i think the main reason is that when the less developed third-world countries got a little more advanced and they were able to get on the internet they found out they could make money on the web. and to them the couple of USD dollars they make from one sale is a shitload of money to them in their country so they don't mind fucking up the industry since those mediocre sales to them is worth alot more than it is to people living in more advanced countries. some of these people in third-world countries that make a few sales a month can support them for a whole month where they are from. in fact, it's alot more money than they would make at a regular job where they are from.

this just snow-balled and to stay competitive the rest of the adult industry started giving everything away. i say we ban the internet from third-world countries. third world countries don't make up most of our sales anyway, they just create adult webmasters that mess up the industry and take money out of our pockets while doing it.
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The cost of entry into adult webmastering was cheap. The benefits go beyond cash, lots of want to be pimps and people who enjoy the shock value of saying "I work in adult". Once it costs more in time and effort to produce a decent return, the "beer-money webmaster" will die off and hopefully the industry will be left with more serious individuals that are more concerned with doing business instead if being in the biz.

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Well, adult industry was declared dead every year, but it's still alive )

However right now it turns into giving adult content for free advertising dating-livecams. Some paysites with A class content and niche content still convert and will convert.

The last thing was selling high-definition full time movies.
Now any surfer can get mainstream movies for free.

2-3 years ago GFY was the main news-source for me.
Now I start my day with techcrunch and most of the projects I work on are non adult-related...
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