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Old 03-20-2008, 10:29 PM   #1
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If Obama is the nominee, McCain will win in november...

Can you imagine the extremely nasty type of "swift boat" type videos that will be put out??? It would extremely ugly.. And if those types of ads could have a negative effect on Kerry's run, then the ones that will come out will just destroy Obama... Sad but true..
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:30 PM   #2
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:31 PM   #3
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so I guess who ever McCain picks for VP will run the country, cuz that old fuck is gonna kick the bucket soon.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:32 PM   #4
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McCain will win, period
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:32 PM   #5
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:33 PM   #6
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Can you imagine the extremely nasty type of "swift boat" type videos that will be put out??? It would extremely ugly.. And if those types of ads could have a negative effect on Kerry's run, then the ones that will come out will just destroy Obama... Sad but true..


I disagree

but if Hillary is the dem canidate..... boy oh boy shit is going to hit the fan

the only thing they have on Obama is the words of another man...some crazy preacher

But Hillary... hell they have been preparing for this fight with her the clintons for the last 8 years


Mccaine want have to lift a finger... the conservative groups will take her on a ride that will make swift boating look like slow swimming
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you all keep forgetting the gunsights havent been focused on mccain yet. John has some problems, like protecting lincoln savings and loan to protect his friend Charles Keating the same scumbag from the people vs larry flynt. It cost the amercian people 2.8 billion dollars.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:48 PM   #8
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you all keep forgetting the gunsights havent been focused on mccain yet. John has some problems, like protecting lincoln savings and loan to protect his friend Charles Keating the same scumbag from the people vs larry flynt. It cost the amercian people 2.8 billion dollars.
That's old news and he can easily overcome that by saying he's been a changed man and look how he doesn't take earmarks etc.

As far as Clinton goes, it's all old news as well... everyone knows all the skeletons... so unless something new comes up it won't matter...
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That's old news and he can easily overcome that by saying he's been a changed man and look how he doesn't take earmarks etc.

As far as Clinton goes, it's all old news as well... everyone knows all the skeletons... so unless something new comes up it won't matter...
just because its old news dosent mean it cannot be effective this election cycle

a lot of new voters and young women have no clue about the skeletons in the clinton closet

well se
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That's old news and he can easily overcome that by saying he's been a changed man and look how he doesn't take earmarks etc.

As far as Clinton goes, it's all old news as well... everyone knows all the skeletons... so unless something new comes up it won't matter...
more current:

"John McCain boasts that he was crusading against excessive spending and legislative corruption when he helped block the Boeing-Air Force air tanker contract. But lobbyists in his campaign, including his finance chair, helped Airbus beat out Boeing last year for a $35 billion contract to build aerial refueling tanker planes. McCain is under scrutiny in this deal because he sent letters "urging the Defense Department, in evaluating the tanker bids, not to consider the potential effects of a separate United States-Airbus trade dispute." (Washington Post, New York Times)

this is good reading also
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/s...ves/133654.asp

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Old 03-20-2008, 10:56 PM   #11
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It will be a mad and frustrating fight no matter whom is nominated as McCain knows where all the skeletons are buried, even many undiscovered dinosaurs that he personally laid to rest during his early years.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:15 PM   #12
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"John McCain boasts that he was crusading against excessive spending and legislative corruption when he helped block the Boeing-Air Force air tanker contract. But lobbyists in his campaign, including his finance chair, helped Airbus beat out Boeing last year for a $35 billion contract to build aerial refueling tanker planes. McCain is under scrutiny in this deal because he sent letters "urging the Defense Department, in evaluating the tanker bids, not to consider the potential effects of a separate United States-Airbus trade dispute." (Washington Post, New York Times)

this is good reading also
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/s...ves/133654.asp
What I was reading on some miltary board was that the air bus tankers were superior to the boeing ones... If true, then he can use his military backgroud that everyone worships to simply spin it into a call for patriotism and wanting to ensure the troops have the best equipment possible...

Hasn't the media already gone over those letters a couple months ago and it faded away.. maybe I'm thinking about something else...
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:30 AM   #13
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Can you imagine the extremely nasty type of "swift boat" type videos that will be put out??? It would extremely ugly.. And if those types of ads could have a negative effect on Kerry's run, then the ones that will come out will just destroy Obama... Sad but true..
So what..change is coming

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...son/index.html
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:57 AM   #14
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Mccain= more wars =economy fall
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:28 AM   #15
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:51 AM   #16
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Apparently you get "Change" when you get Obama. Not really sure what that is though or what it means... hope its something nice. Those banners look so pretty.
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:37 AM   #17
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everyone claims to want change, but then they settle right back into the same pattern as before..."change" is nothing but an empty buzzword
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:57 AM   #18
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I can't wait to see the race because it is going to be Hillary and McCain, and man oh man is it going to get UGLY. Uglier than the both of them.

you ain't seen nothin' yet.

ps. Please read this article about Obama. Some of you need to realize a couple things about the guy.
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Nah, nothing nasty will be necessary for McCain to defeat Obama. Obama is smooth talking, but he is way too far left for our country. If you think our economy is bad now, wait until we tilt further towards socialism...

If you want nasty, vote for Hillary. The Clintons are perhaps the dirtiest political fighters in modern history.
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Nah, nothing nasty will be necessary for McCain to defeat Obama. Obama is smooth talking, but he is way too far left for our country. If you think our economy is bad now, wait until we tilt further towards socialism...

If you want nasty, vote for Hillary. The Clintons are perhaps the dirtiest political fighters in modern history.
Lets see during Bush the first economy was in the toilet, then clinton economy good and now W economy bad. I think the republicans are good for the economy is a myth nothing more. Like I read that Reagan did two of the largest tax increases in the history of the US during peace time. So this whole democrats will raise everyones taxes bullshit when the republican king reagan has the crown for that.
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