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Old 03-20-2008, 01:04 AM   #1
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Serious business thread... if you dont own a paysite dont bother

Cascading and getting as many sales as possible is the topic for discussion.

My eperience. I love all my billers but there is positives and negatives with every one just like with anything else in life. So I am going to be objective and make no excuses from now on.

Epoch- Good for processing European transactions not so good at letting the next processor in the cascade take over after

SegPay - maybe just a tad worse at picking up European transactions but better at letting the next processor catch the sale if it cant process

Verotel - All over the place with rejections and acceptances anywhere in the world but great with Direct Debit for German (as well as a few other) customers

Please share your experience, I am eager to learn. You can post here or message me on ICQ 227 -000- 671
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:20 AM   #2
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:26 AM   #3
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Sad lack of responses ......
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:47 AM   #4
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:54 AM   #5
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you know what .. I am fucking sick of processors i want members to just pay me cash ..come to my office and drop off cash .. .. there really is too many different choices .. I have a cascade that looks like one of those waterfalls somewhere in Brazil ... and there are still little parts of others that i want but can't get unless i sign them up as well ...ccbill seems to be the one for the affs ..or at least the only processor i have been asked if i had before an aff would join the program .. verotel needs to do some stuff with cross sales ..some need to change up their pricing .. and yet with every new one i take on .. I still have the exact same apprehension I did signing paperwork for my very first one.. I went through Ibill ..was seconds away from signing up with the Canadian guys that crashed .. learned not to keep all your eggs in one basket so to speak .... if was able to and had 10 mill sitting i would start up my own and make everyone happy beyond belief .. seems funny that with such a short order of needs on the table all the time .. that someone somewhere doesn't just fill the list and make them selves a one stop shop for processors .. all jmho
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:00 AM   #6
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:03 AM   #7
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you know what .. I am fucking sick of processors i want members to just pay me cash ..come to my office and drop off cash .. .. there really is too many different choices .. I have a cascade that looks like one of those waterfalls somewhere in Brazil ... and there are still little parts of others that i want but can't get unless i sign them up as well ...ccbill seems to be the one for the affs ..or at least the only processor i have been asked if i had before an aff would join the program .. verotel needs to do some stuff with cross sales ..some need to change up their pricing .. and yet with every new one i take on .. I still have the exact same apprehension I did signing paperwork for my very first one.. I went through Ibill ..was seconds away from signing up with the Canadian guys that crashed .. learned not to keep all your eggs in one basket so to speak .... if was able to and had 10 mill sitting i would start up my own and make everyone happy beyond belief .. seems funny that with such a short order of needs on the table all the time .. that someone somewhere doesn't just fill the list and make them selves a one stop shop for processors .. all jmho
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:11 AM   #8
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Cascading and getting as many sales as possible is the topic for discussion.

My eperience. I love all my billers but there is positives and negatives with every one just like with anything else in life. So I am going to be objective and make no excuses from now on.

Epoch- Good for processing European transactions not so good at letting the next processor in the cascade take over after

SegPay - maybe just a tad worse at picking up European transactions but better at letting the next processor catch the sale if it cant process

Verotel - All over the place with rejections and acceptances anywhere in the world but great with Direct Debit for German (as well as a few other) customers

Please share your experience, I am eager to learn. You can post here or message me on ICQ 227 -000- 671

I agree Epoch is top notch for Euro transactions but I havent experienced the cascade not working properly. But thanks for the insight which i will watch closely for. Ccbill had some time out issues with their pages for a long time, but they seem to have straightened it out just recently. Im thinking about giving a few others a shot too so this thread could be usefull. DHD is someone Im seriously giving thought too.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:42 AM   #9
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It seems as if you were focused on international transactions in your original response??? Are you having specific issues, or just trying to get a general consensus of what's out there?
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:44 AM   #10
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I'm pretty happy with CCBill to Epoch. You just gotta customize CCBill to cascade after the 1st decline, for i think default was set for multiple declines.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:45 AM   #11
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were like many other ccbill clients are looking into epoch since ccbill offers cascading

pls correct me if im wrong but is it possible that epoch doesnt get the sign up and somehow breaks off the cascading process

I sure hope not
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:00 PM   #12
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We have Paycom primary and CCBill secondary most of the time. Both appear to be similar as far as approvals/denials and areas. Rebills are slightly better with Paycom.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:06 PM   #13
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you know what .. I am fucking sick of processors i want members to just pay me cash ..come to my office and drop off cash .. .. there really is too many different choices .. I have a cascade that looks like one of those waterfalls somewhere in Brazil ... and there are still little parts of others that i want but can't get unless i sign them up as well ...ccbill seems to be the one for the affs ..or at least the only processor i have been asked if i had before an aff would join the program .. verotel needs to do some stuff with cross sales ..some need to change up their pricing .. and yet with every new one i take on .. I still have the exact same apprehension I did signing paperwork for my very first one.. I went through Ibill ..was seconds away from signing up with the Canadian guys that crashed .. learned not to keep all your eggs in one basket so to speak .... if was able to and had 10 mill sitting i would start up my own and make everyone happy beyond belief .. seems funny that with such a short order of needs on the table all the time .. that someone somewhere doesn't just fill the list and make them selves a one stop shop for processors .. all jmho
OK adding cash option to waterfall...
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were like many other ccbill clients are looking into epoch since ccbill offers cascading

pls correct me if im wrong but is it possible that epoch doesnt get the sign up and somehow breaks off the cascading process

I sure hope not
This is what we seen with some testing
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:08 PM   #15
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This is what we seen with some testing
hmm thats not with NATS right but with the CCBILL cascading option

if so ill ask our rep bout that
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:45 AM   #16
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We did some data analyses and found more patterns, but I am not opening up cards since nobody wants to play... so hit me up on icq to trade info
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