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baddog 03-17-2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13932494)
The "Holy Day' as we know it today has little or nothing to do with anything 1000 years ago...
It is not a "Holy Day" in the USofA.

CDSmith 03-17-2008 07:14 PM
All I know is I'm about 1/4 Irish, and I'm perfectly happy hoisting a mug on St. Patrick's day in honor of that part of my heritage, as is tradition.

Fuck all the rest of it.

It's not rocket science, it's not "holier than thou" day... it's a day for being happy. The world needs more of those as far as I can see. Now drink up.

BVF 03-17-2008 07:16 PM
Nobody gives a fuck about the real meaning of holidays anyway.....I have absolutely no idea who 'St Patrick' is and don't care....

baddog 03-17-2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13932504)
Well... as kids we used to make shamrocks (basically 4-leaf clovers called shamrocks)
Canadians can't get anything right. A shamrock is a 3 leaf clover. :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13932515)
The Shamrock was used by "Saint Patrick" to explain the "Holy Trinity" so no matter how its been changed by schools and families, Shamrocks are now just a symbol on the beer bottle... but its really a reminder of Christ, the Holy Ghost, and God.

no one celebrates today because they agree with how Saint Patrick lived and died? Most have no idea about him being Pagan...
When was he a pagan? You mean when he was captured and sold as a slave at the age of 14 to Druids/pagans?

Funny what slavery will do to a kid. It was then that he turned to God. Sorry to mess up your story.

TurboAngel 03-17-2008 10:04 PM
Ok................

Fizzgig 03-18-2008 12:35 AM
Of course he was real! He drove all the leprechauns out of Ireland and invented the Irish sweepstakes. He was canonized for inventing green beer and pinching women's bottoms.

Chio 03-18-2008 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by D (Post 13932444)
The idea that drinking and Christianity don't go together is a mostly Puritan viewpoint.

Ask any Belgian monk. :2 cents:

Some of them fast on nothing but beer for an entire month.
I was just going to say that. Trappist Ale is likely the best beer you'll ever taste. :upsidedow

shermo 03-18-2008 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13932920)
When was he a pagan? You mean when he was captured and sold as a slave at the age of 14 to Druids/pagans?

Funny what slavery will do to a kid. It was then that he turned to God. Sorry to mess up your story.
Thanks for clarifying. I was just about to do so. :winkwink:

Chio 03-18-2008 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13933889)
I was just going to say that. Trappist Ale is likely the best beer you'll ever taste. :upsidedow
I forgot one whole section of what I was going to say LOL.

Guinness (supposedly) was used as the only source of sustenance during fasting by Irish priests and ... Trappist Ale (Made by Belgian Monasteries) is likely the best beer you'll ever taste.

baddog 03-18-2008 02:28 AM
Anyone that thinks alcohol and Christianity do not mix have probably forgotten that Jesus' first miracle was changing water into wine.

The blind can be healed later, we need wine.

D 03-18-2008 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13933899)
I forgot one whole section of what I was going to say LOL.

Guinness (supposedly) was used as the only source of sustenance during fasting by Irish priests and ... Trappist Ale (Made by Belgian Monasteries) is likely the best beer you'll ever taste.
I hadn't heard about Guinness... wouldn't surprise me... but I know that sects of Belgian monks would fast on doppelbocks (and similar styles of beer) such as Salvator (gotta respect a beer that a bunch of monks name after Christ. :) ) during Lent every Spring.


Oh...and 50 bottles of beer on the wall!

LadyMischief 03-18-2008 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13932529)
Actually, religious men have enjoyed alcohol for quite some time :)

"With the collapse of the Roman Empire and decline of urban life, religious institutions, particularly monasteries, became the repositories of the brewing and winemaking techniques that had been earlier developed (Babor, 1986, p. 11). While rustic beers continued to be produced in homes, the art of brewing essentially became the province of monks, who carefully guarded their knowledge (Cherrington, 1925, v. 1, p. 405). Monks brewed virtually all beer of good quality until the twelfth century. Around the thirteenth century, hops (which both flavors and preserves) became a common ingredient in some beers, especially in northern Europe (Wilson, 1991, p. 375). 5 Ale, often a thick and nutritious soupy beverage, soured quickly and was made for local consumption (Austin, 1985, p. 54, pp. 87-88)."
Ya I was gonna say, one of the most rare and expensive wines in the world today is brewed by Monks :)

LadyMischief 03-18-2008 04:59 AM
There was a religious dude named St. Patrick, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick

And yes, it's on Wikipedia, but if you look at the sources the information is from, they are "legitimate" as far as their sources.

Fletch XXX 03-18-2008 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13932920)
When was he a pagan? You mean when he was captured and sold as a slave at the age of 14 to Druids/pagans?

Funny what slavery will do to a kid. It was then that he turned to God. Sorry to mess up your story.
Right, as I said...

He was PAGAN BEFORE being Christian ;)

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The person who was to become St. Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was born in Wales about AD 385. His given name was Maewyn, and he almost didn't get the job of bishop of Ireland because he lacked the required scholarship.

Far from being a saint, until he was 16, he considered himself a pagan. At that age, he was sold into slavery by a group of Irish marauders that raided his village. During his captivity, he became closer to God.
To those saying I was wrong about his name and him being pagan BEFORe christian, you are wrong.

:)

Anyway, its a new day....

http://www.crystalinks.com/stpatricksday.html

Fletch XXX 03-18-2008 05:25 AM
Cheeers all, hope your hangovers arent too bad...

time to get to daily business though, I cant be on gfy today ;)

later

Sarah_Jayne 03-18-2008 05:31 AM
It just sucks I can't get a Shamrock Shake in the UK.

Sam Granger 03-18-2008 06:08 AM
Dude dont make me feel guilty when drinking :(

CDSmith 03-18-2008 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13932920)
Canadians can't get anything right. A shamrock is a 3 leaf clover. :winkwink:
I stand corrected.

No hangover here. I used my secret Canadian remedy and feel great this morning.

baddog 03-18-2008 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13934284)
Right, as I said...

He was PAGAN BEFORE being Christian ;)



To those saying I was wrong about his name and him being pagan BEFORe christian, you are wrong.

:)

Anyway, its a new day....

http://www.crystalinks.com/stpatricksday.html
That would all be well and good, except that isn't what you said, or implied.


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no one celebrates today because they agree with how Saint Patrick lived and died? Most have no idea about him being Pagan...
And for the record, very few "saints" grew up as perfect little angels. It was their conversion to Christianity and how they led their lives afterwards that resulted in their canonization.


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