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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393
    #1

    teendolls payments SUPER late?

    I received a payment today which appears to cover the last 3 payments. I checked teendolls.com and according to payments.php the oldest of the 3 was supposedly sent on 19th April 2007.

    I cannot find any record of the 3 "payments" in my epassporte account so the latest one does not appear to be a duplicate payment made in error.

    Why are teendolls taking 11 months to send my $$$?
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    • AdPatron
      No commissions, no fees.
      • Apr 2003
      • 17706
      #2
      hmmmmmm Good question!

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        • papill0n
          Unregistered Abuser
          • Oct 2007
          • 15547
          #3
          Someone mentioned this to me earlier today. They claim to have sent no traffic for months, have no rebills and were still paid. The amount seemed to be a duplicate of their last payout.

          Wonder whats going on.....

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            • Iron Fist
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2006
              • 23400
              #4
              Could be that NATS v4 they are beta testing.


              Just sayin..
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                • TMM_John
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2004
                  • 6664
                  #5
                  No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.


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                    • rowan
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 17393
                      #6
                      No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

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                        • TMM_John
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2004
                          • 6664
                          #7
                          Originally posted by rowan
                          No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?
                          As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.


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                            • Christina Muller
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 923
                              #8
                              PBucksJohn "As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault "


                              Well I think thats the most honest straightforward answer someone could make Hope it all works out PBJ

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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                  As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.
                                  And...? What happens now?

                                  I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.

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                                    • TMM_John
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 6664
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                      And...? What happens now?

                                      I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.
                                      Of course, I fully understand that.


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                                        • rowan
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 17393
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                          Of course, I fully understand that.
                                          Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

                                          You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

                                          I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

                                          I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off.

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                                            • TMM_John
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 6664
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                              Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

                                              You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

                                              I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

                                              I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off.
                                              My saying its no ones fault but my own is a flippant response?

                                              Payments will be normal going forward.

                                              As I've said, I've got a lot going on and TeenDolls wound up being what took the brunt of my having too much on my plate. I'm sorry for that.

                                              You are correct in that Teen Dolls exists in part to be a test bed for NATS. Its being small and not generating much of my income is probably part of the reason why it has suffered. Thats no excuse for it, just trying to be honest about it.

                                              Of course I don't like that you're dropping your links. However, you have a right to be angry about it and I was simply saying I understand the reaction.

                                              I don't know what else to tell you.


                                              Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                • Vox
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                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 2710
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                  No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.
                                                  Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

                                                  You still haven't paid for 2006/2007
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                                                    • TMM_John
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                                                      • May 2004
                                                      • 6664
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Vox
                                                      Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

                                                      You still haven't paid for 2006/2007
                                                      There are still accounts being caught up as I am limited by epass's daily limits.

                                                      I don't see any way a payment can be due from 2006 unless you have recently hit the minimum. I'm not aware of anyone Rui knows of who has emailed him. I ICQ'd you just now but didn't get a reply back and I can not find any accounts in the system with your ICQ number. Please ICQ me back at 5596373.


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                                                        • Vox
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 2710
                                                          #15
                                                          Alright, my bad for the 2006 comments... I should of opened my books and seen that payments were received in a timely manner.

                                                          John is taking care of the rest for me this week.

                                                          A little icq conversation goes a long way.

                                                          Thanks John.
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                                                            • Caffiend
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 455
                                                              #16
                                                              Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?
                                                              ->__<-

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                                                                • TMM_John
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                  • 6664
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Caffiend
                                                                  Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?
                                                                  E-Mail me any questions at [email protected] please, or icq 5596373, the TD email is not the best contact. Thanks.


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                                                                    • rowan
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 17393
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Caffiend
                                                                      Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?
                                                                      I emailed Rui before I started this thread, sent 2 reminders, still waiting for a reply.

                                                                      I don't know if there's a technical problem or he's just ignoring them for some reason. I've never had a reply to any email I've sent to teendolls support, apart from PBucksJohn when I started "pre-emptive hunting" and sent copies to root@ webmaster@ etc

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                                                                        • Rui
                                                                          web
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 9533
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.

                                                                          Just for future reference - 85-483-060

                                                                          Regards

                                                                          Edit - A no, nobody was ignoring you, why should we do that?
                                                                          Last edited by Rui; 05-27-2008, 03:12 AM.

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                                                                            • SlamDesigns
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 2339
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Hey John and Rui...just wanted to give you a heads up that I just sent an e-mail to both of you also. Please be on the look out for one from "slamdesigns.com". Thanks!

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                                                                                • SlamDesigns
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                  • 2339
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Hey Rui,

                                                                                  Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

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                                                                                    • rowan
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 17393
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Rui
                                                                                      Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.
                                                                                      I don't understand why you have email contact addresses listed for support if they don't work.

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                                                                                        • Rui
                                                                                          web
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 9533
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by SlamDesigns
                                                                                          Hey Rui,

                                                                                          Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!
                                                                                          It has been sorted yesterday mate, check your paypal

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                                                                                            • digifan
                                                                                              The Profiler
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14618
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.
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                                                                                                • commonsense
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                  • 1790
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by digifan
                                                                                                  Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.
                                                                                                  Plenty of people still use paypal for a number of things, and no mention as to whether it was adult orientated or not. Reaching for drama eh?

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                                                                                                    • potter
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                      • 6559
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      things that make you go hmmm

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                                                                                                        • AlexGree
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                                                          • 11
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                                                                          Payments will be normal going forward.
                                                                                                          My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
                                                                                                          I didn't get any payout from you since February.
                                                                                                          But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

                                                                                                          I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

                                                                                                          if you paid...

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                                                                                                            • TMM_John
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                              • 6664
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by AlexGree
                                                                                                              My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
                                                                                                              I didn't get any payout from you since February.
                                                                                                              But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

                                                                                                              I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

                                                                                                              if you paid...
                                                                                                              Please ICQ me, 5596373, I'm not sure who you ICQ'd but I reply to them all. Also, the program is hopefully going to change hands within the next few weeks or so as I obviously don't have the time to run it properly
                                                                                                              Last edited by TMM_John; 07-07-2008, 07:32 AM.


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                                                                                                                • AlexGree
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                  • 11
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I sent few messages to you via ICQ, but don't get a response. Rui has been contacted with me after my previous post here. He promised sent the payout today.

                                                                                                                  Two days left...

                                                                                                                  and i still waiting...

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                                                                                                                    • cybermike
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                      • 4121
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      so whos taking over the site?
                                                                                                                      Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

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                                                                                                                        • AlexGree
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                          • 11
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I hope John will not forget about debts after teendolls changed hands...
                                                                                                                          but now situation is not seems good for me...

                                                                                                                          all pending payments in my payment history in affiliate area was updated to "paid", but nothing was paid actually... the promises only

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                                                                                                                            • Caffiend
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                              • 455
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              AlexGree, the same thing happened to me. Payments changed to 'paid', but no money received. No luck chasing anyone down on ICQ, either. Do only the big fish get dealt with now?
                                                                                                                              ->__<-

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                                                                                                                                • Bravo
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 393
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  hey John! teendolls owe me money for 3 or 4 accounts
                                                                                                                                  please read your email

                                                                                                                                  thanks!

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                                                                                                                                    • HorseShit
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 17513
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      another one bites the dust

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                                                                                                                                        • jscott
                                                                                                                                          jscizzle
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 25412
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Anything the affiliates should know? or is everything going to be smooth sailing from here on out?
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                                                                                                                                            • rowan
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 17393
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Searched for this thread to clarify something and was concerned to see there's been further payment probs. Bump for answers

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                                                                                                                                                • Manowar
                                                                                                                                                  jellyfish  
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 71528
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I've noted this problem now., anyone got contact info for Rui?

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                                                                                                                                                    • Manowar
                                                                                                                                                      jellyfish  
                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 71528
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Edit: Found them up the thread a bit, hope I can get this sorted ASAP

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                                                                                                                                                        • TMM_John
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                                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 6664
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          E-mail me directly at albright\toomuchmedia\com

                                                                                                                                                          Thanks.


                                                                                                                                                          Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                                                                                                                            • rowan
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 17393
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I'm showing an entry for 2008-09-16 saying "pending" and "not yet paid." It's above the minimum, yet it's now nearly a month later. This is really shabby.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Bravo
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 393
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  hey Jon, stop this bulshit! i have 20 emails from you with questions and promises to pay and still no payments

                                                                                                                                                                  this is 100% bulshit for affiliate program!!!!!!!!!! not professional and not serious ;(

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Chef86
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2930
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • HorseShit
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 17513
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          get your money from them and say fuck it at this point

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                                                                                                                                                                            • rowan
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 17393
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              So what does this mean exactly?


                                                                                                                                                                              Outstanding
                                                                                                                                                                              Not Yet Stored
                                                                                                                                                                              Not Yet Paid
                                                                                                                                                                              $25.44
                                                                                                                                                                              Not Yet Set
                                                                                                                                                                              List Payments

                                                                                                                                                                              Pending
                                                                                                                                                                              2008-09-16
                                                                                                                                                                              Not Yet Paid
                                                                                                                                                                              $100.76
                                                                                                                                                                              ePassporte
                                                                                                                                                                              List Payments

                                                                                                                                                                              From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Bravo
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 393
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  grrrrr.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • TMM_John
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6664
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by alextm
                                                                                                                                                                                      grrrrr.....
                                                                                                                                                                                      Alex, I know its been a while, but I haven't received a reply to my last few emails. You can reach me on icq, 5596373, or phone, 732-385-1536 x1111.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks


                                                                                                                                                                                      Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • TMM_John
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6664
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Chef86
                                                                                                                                                                                          John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                          I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.


                                                                                                                                                                                          Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • rowan
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 17393
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              So John, I say John, John (imagine Matrix in Commando taunting Arnie)

                                                                                                                                                                                              When are you going to address the non payment issues?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • HorseShit
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 17513
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  How about you sell me the complete program?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Caffiend
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 455
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So what does this mean exactly?


                                                                                                                                                                                                      Outstanding
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not Yet Stored
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not Yet Paid
                                                                                                                                                                                                      $25.44
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not Yet Set
                                                                                                                                                                                                      List Payments

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Pending
                                                                                                                                                                                                      2008-09-16
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not Yet Paid
                                                                                                                                                                                                      $100.76
                                                                                                                                                                                                      ePassporte
                                                                                                                                                                                                      List Payments

                                                                                                                                                                                                      From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Similar problem on my end - a payment that claims it was sent but never showed up in my ePassporte account. Its been months, so I doubt it'll ever get resolved for me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      ->__<-

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