Do people buy porn in a recession

[Kard63]

How bad will the impending economic disaster hurt porn?

[tony286]

I hope they do. lol. imo all depends if the cc companies start cutting back open lines and raising rates to stupid numbers.

[baddog]

food or porn?
gas or porn?
mortgage or porn?

[nikki99]

I hope so

[D]

Resession? Probably bits and pieces.. if it weren't for content theft, I'd think we might not even notice a recession - people still entertain themselves during a recession, and a $30/month membership is a lot cheaper than even one night on the town - whether you already have a member of the opposite sex secured, or no. I say the current problems of content theft get multiplied, though, and tip the scales to work against us... I think having less cash could prompt Mr. Joe-Average to further justify his journey into the bitch-ass world of partaking of stolen content.

Depression... that'd probably be a lot worse. I think we'll be the first to feel the brunt of an actual "depression," because I assume reputable/ignorant (in regards to content theft) people would give up their porn - and go back to using their imagination and mental "yank-banks" to get the job done before selling their dining room sets.

[pornguy]

Yes they do. But only a few will survive.

[Eriic]

Tubes Tubes and more Tubes....................Redtube.com

[ADL Colin]

Depends on how deep and how long. I don't think 2001 caused many of us any trouble.

But if "economic disaster" then yes. Sure.

[EZRhino]

Originally Posted by baddog

food or porn?
gas or porn?
mortgage or porn?

When times get bad, always bet on Cigs, whiskey, gambling and porn.
People will spend money on the oddest things, to make them feel better about themselves and their lot in life.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

When times get bad, always bet on Cigs, whiskey, gambling and porn.
People will spend money on the oddest things, to make them feel better about themselves and their lot in life.

Porn being included was from the bricks and mortar days.When you couldn't get porn for free, its a different time.

[ADL Colin]

To really answer the question you'd want to look at porn consumption in 2001, 1991, 1980-82 and maybe even 1974. But what will you look at? Sales for public porn companies? I don't think how Playboy fared in the recession of 1991 would be a very good proxy for onlines sales in a 2008 recession.

How different was the early 80s recession with an 11% unemployment rate from the short, quick recession of 2001? Like Baddog pointed out it depends on what choices people are forced to make. And then you have unemployment which can take even those choices away. Not a lot of savers out there ready for unemplyment.

[GAMEFINEST]

its a maybe

[tony286]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

To really answer the question you'd want to look at porn consumption in 2001, 1991, 1980-82 and maybe even 1974. But what will you look at? Sales for public porn companies? I don't think how Playboy fared in the recession of 1991 would be a very good proxy for onlines sales in a 2008 recession.

How different was the early 80s recession with an 11% unemployment rate from the short, quick recession of 2001? Like Baddog pointed out it depends on what choices people are forced to make. And then you have unemployment which can take even those choices away. Not a lot of savers out there ready for unemplyment.

No its not a good indicator because they werent giving porn away in the 80's and 91.

[AndrewKanuck]

Vices are the best stocks during recessions

[Fap]

yes, yes they do

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by Kard63

How bad will the impending economic disaster hurt porn?

Of course they will still buy, except you stupid fucks keep giving it all away

[Scott McD]

I guess so. They need something to keep them happy in hard times...

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by tony404

No its not a good indicator because they werent giving porn away in the 80's and 91.

I disagree. If you find that porn sales decreased during those recessions you'd have a pretty good indicator. Only if sales increased or stayed the same do you have the more complex situation.

Though I don't think there is enough data on porn sales available from those recessions to matter anyway.

[TheDoc]

Porn, at some levels is.

But Internet Access isn't.

[RuthB]

people need to escape from reality, porn helps with that

when there's a recession/depression people still need to escape from reality, generally even moreso than before

personally I don't think porn will ever die, it might morph into a different delivery model but I doubt it will ever go away, cos especially during the roughest times, people will always need to fantasize and seek to escape their day-to-day drudgery/misery/stress

besides.. it's cheaper to rent a porno (or subscribe to a paysite) and bang your chick on the couch (or the dining room, kitchen or wherever) than it is to go out to dinner and a movie

[Kevsh]

Since I only know the webcam biz (and just barely), and haven't been through a recession, I don't have much practical insight. However, I would guesstimate that the "consumption" will stay about the same for hardcore users (addicts) but for the mid-range and light users they will perhaps make smarter choices.

For example, I am already noticing lower average purchase amounts (for cam sites, of course) but overall the number of sales is fairly steady. That could just be coincidental but I will monitor in the coming months just for curiosity.

[jakethedog]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

When times get bad, always bet on Cigs, whiskey, gambling and porn.
People will spend money on the oddest things, to make them feel better about themselves and their lot in life.

There are stats the prove this ..perfect example .. up here in Canada .. welfare comes on the last wednesday of every month .. coincidently the busiest day in the bars across the land

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by D

Resession? Probably bits and pieces.. if it weren't for content theft, I'd think we might not even notice a recession - people still entertain themselves during a recession, and a $30/month membership is a lot cheaper than even one night on the town - whether you already have a member of the opposite sex secured, or no. I say the current problems of content theft get multiplied, though, and tip the scales to work against us... I think having less cash could prompt Mr. Joe-Average to further justify his journey into the bitch-ass world of partaking of stolen content.

Depression... that'd probably be a lot worse. I think we'll be the first to feel the brunt of an actual "depression," because I assume reputable/ignorant (in regards to content theft) people would give up their porn - and go back to using their imagination and mental "yank-banks" to get the job done before selling their dining room sets.

I agree, but in very hard times (depression) I think people will cut back on internet access before things like cable. No internet, no porn.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I disagree. If you find that porn sales decreased during those recessions you'd have a pretty good indicator. Only if sales increased or stayed the same do you have the more complex situation.

Though I don't think there is enough data on porn sales available from those recessions to matter anyway.

The first 14 yrs of my experience in adult was in bricks and mortar. If people wanted to porn it had to be bought there was no other option. Now there is free porn thats just a click away. How can you think that wont change the matrix? All things are not equal.

[aico]

thankfully there are many other countries other than the US on the planet.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by tony404

The first 14 yrs of my experience in adult was in bricks and mortar. If people wanted to porn it had to be bought there was no other option. Now there is free porn thats just a click away. How can you think that wont change the matrix? All things are not equal.

I didn't say anything about it not mattering.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I didn't say anything about it not mattering.

What I said was that if you researched and found decreasing porn sales during past recessions that would be a good indicator of what is in store.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

What I said was that if you researched and found decreasing porn sales during past recessions that would be a good indicator of what is in store.

It wouldnt be a indicator because the playing field is different. There was no free porn back then unless you wanted to try and watch the playboy channel scrambled. Since there was no free porn, porn never got hit hard and thats why people say the adult industry is recession proof but that was a time before you could watch 30 min scenes for free.

[angelsofporn]

With real inflation at around 18% right now, adult sites need to raise their prices IMO.

[DjiXas]

There's no money in recession

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by baddog

food or porn?
gas or porn?
mortgage or porn?

why pay for porn when its free on the internet

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by tony404

It wouldnt be a indicator because the playing field is different. There was no free porn back then unless you wanted to try and watch the playboy channel scrambled. Since there was no free porn, porn never got hit hard and thats why people say the adult industry is recession proof but that was a time before you could watch 30 min scenes for free.

I totally agree

[kane]

I think we will be fine. There will be plenty of people with jobs still, they just curb spending, but mostly on big ticket items. People don't buy big screen TVs and cars and vacations, they do buy CDs and DVDs and stuff like that. There is no reason to think that just because there is a recession, guys will want to stop pounding their meat. There is a lot of free stuff out there, but people will still pay if you offer them something they really want to see. Also if so many people stop paying for anything and just visit tube sites, the tube sites sales will disappear and they will no longer be able to afford to keep the site up.

If it is a major recession like 20% unemployment and stuff like that, then it could effect us, but we are trully a global market and there are more and more ways to make sales to people from other countries.

In the end when times are tough people want a diversion to take their mind off the troubles. what better diversion is there than hot naked girls?

[xeroxas]

Kill free porn website, like redtube!

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by RogerV

why pay for porn when its free on the internet

Are you asking (maybe, rhetorically) why people pay for porn right now when it is available for free right now ?

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by tony404

It wouldnt be a indicator because the playing field is different. There was no free porn back then unless you wanted to try and watch the playboy channel scrambled. Since there was no free porn, porn never got hit hard and thats why people say the adult industry is recession proof but that was a time before you could watch 30 min scenes for free.

How does this counter my case where you look into the data of the past and discover that porn actually DID go into a recession along with other industries in the past? The difficulty with the initial assumption that it is (or was) recession-proof is that some of have heard it for so long we assumed it was true in the past just based on the statement. How many of us have been through even the last two recessions as business owners? Even if so how relevant would those limited experiences be? Phone text? Store owner? Whate would even qualify as related?

Who has dug up the SEC reports of Playboy from 1970 to the present even to initially and tentatively verify the assumption? I think that is the only data even possibly available.

I'm having a difficult time believing that some consulting firm put together evidence after the '74 recession that porn was a "recession proof business".

You could do this pretty easy for alcohol or cigarettes but porn is gonna be really tough.

Again i will repeat. I think if you find in the best case that porn was in a recession similar to other industries in the past we will go into an industry-recession this time. The point YOU'VE made only enhances that. With the option to move to more free porn the industry will be hit even harder than then.

I make ZERO claim to actually knowing how the industry handled recession overall in say 74 or 80. Did people buy more or less porn then? Not a clue.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by aico

thankfully there are many other countries other than the US on the planet.

unfortunately they arent buying memebership. eg. NScash provides customer country details and jugging from more then 150 SUs I can say 90% of customers are still from US, despite the fact that memberships are cheaper for EU folks more then ever.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

unfortunately they arent buying memebership. eg. NScash provides customer country details and jugging from more then 150 SUs I can say 90% of customers are still from US, despite the fact that memberships are cheaper for EU folks more then ever.

Agreed there. That and we have to take the possibility of a worldwide recession seriously. There's certainly concern in the UK. It's difficult to imagine a long US recession not causing a number of regional recessions or maybe even a truly global one.

How deep, no one knows.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

When times get bad, always bet on Cigs, whiskey, gambling and porn.
People will spend money on the oddest things, to make them feel better about themselves and their lot in life.

assuming they still have that $50/month high speed internet connection.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Agreed there. That and we have to take the possibility of a worldwide recession seriously. There's certainly concern in the UK. It's difficult to imagine a long US recession not causing a number of regional recessions or maybe even a truly global one.

How deep, no one knows.

"When US economy goes down, the rest of world suffer 2x more" or how is that saying...
US global consumption is still the most important thing for global economy.

And for sure ChinIndia isnt going to save rest of world economy. Both countries are already feeling US recession and it just started.

[teomaxxx]

ops.................

[ppcwiz]

it'll be alright

[marcop]

Hey, it's cheaper than dating.

[Trixie]

With so much given away for free people will choose to spend their money on other stuff. Porn sites with the personal touch will weather the storm better because there's more of an emotional payoff that people can't get from free porn but really need/want more when times are bad.

After 9/11 camgirls were BUSY!

[Trixie]

And I'll bet dating sites will continue to do really well, too.

[DirtyProfits]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

"When US economy goes down, the rest of world suffer 2x more" or how is that saying...
US global consumption is still the most important thing for global economy.

You got some stats to back that up? I think most European countries do more business with each other than with the USA. Especially now, when the dollar is that weak European companies look out for other markets because exporting to the States is not worth it.

[DirtyProfits]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

unfortunately they arent buying memebership. eg. NScash provides customer country details and jugging from more then 150 SUs I can say 90% of customers are still from US, despite the fact that memberships are cheaper for EU folks more then ever.

Maybe paysites should mention that on their signup sites because I do not think that many European surfers really realize that or think about it that $30 is actually less than ?20 when they have their dick in the other hand.

[NewbieNudes]

When the USA stops throwing Trillions of dollars down the toilet in the middle east - then we'll be out of this recession.

Let's just hope John McCain doesn't get in - cause if he does we're fucked.

[DirtyProfits]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

Let's just hope John McCain doesn't get in - cause if he does we're fucked.

double-anal-penetration-fucked

[jalami]

Note that pornographic videos exploded in popularity during the particularly tough recession of the 1970s. Although back then they didn't have free porn like they do now...