What do you think when you see a pregnant woman smoking? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sarah_Jayne · 03-12-2008, 08:52 AM

It doesn't happen that often these days but earlier today I had a doctor's appointment and right outside the glass doors of the waiting area was this pregnant woman. She had on this pair of low riding track bottoms/jogging pants that made her bump stick out. Which is classy enough considering it is fricking cold in London today and we are in the middle of a wind storm. Then she starts puffing away on a ciggie. You could almost feel the hush in the waiting room as she was spotted.

What do you think when you see a pregnant woman smoking? Should it be against the law to smoke when you are pregnant?

Jens Van Assterdam · 03-12-2008, 08:55 AM

Ridiciolus stupid slut! She shoudnt be allowed to raise a child at all! Shoot that bitch!

LauraLee · 03-12-2008, 08:59 AM

It makes me sick to my stomach. I am not opposed to bring about legislation/laws that protect the unborn child. In fact I would support it 100%.

Those who can speak sometimes need to speak for those who cannot.

brand0n · 03-12-2008, 09:00 AM

should be a crime imho

Jennyfer · 03-12-2008, 09:02 AM

A friend was told by a doctor that is better having one cigarrette a month then stop it completely during the pregnancy but i don't remember the medical explanation behind it. If that was her only cig that month that's fine, otherwise poor baby!

Nydahl · 03-12-2008, 09:07 AM

I am a hard smoker and I always critise banning of smoking as its every1s choise.
But this is different game - it should be banned for sure.Can't believe that some mothers do that.

LauraLee · 03-12-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennyfer

A friend was told by a doctor that is better having one cigarrette a month then stop it completely during the pregnancy but i don't remember the medical explanation behind it. If that was her only cig that month that's fine, otherwise poor baby!

It's my opinion, if the woman Sarah saw smoking was puffing on her 1 and only cig of the month, she would probably do it in the confines of her own home.
The woman in question was most likely nic fitting and prepared to smoke wherever she 'had' to.

F-U-Jimmy · 03-12-2008, 09:10 AM

Dumb fuck

CDSmith · 03-12-2008, 09:11 AM

Honestly, I think "what a selfish self-serving idiot"

That's what I think.

I've even worked with a few nurses who had no compunction at all about puffing away while pregnant. You'd think they of all people would know better. Why bother having a child if you aren't committed to at least giving it as many advantages as possible instead of starting it off in life with all the health risks that come from smoking?

Some people truly astound me, as does the level of idiocy that humans are capable of.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-12-2008, 09:12 AM

Yeah and if you are going to smoke why would you pick right before you go into see the doctor to do it?

WebCashMaker · 03-12-2008, 09:15 AM

I don't like it... but at least it is not a crack pipe !

D · 03-12-2008, 09:16 AM

It's the mother's body. It's the mother's choice.

Granted, I, personally, feel that if she's having more than a cig a day, she should - maybe - be approached about the prospect of giving her child up for adoption when it's born... because I'm thinking she'll probably be an unfit mother...

but it's still her call to be an ignorant fuck-twit, if she wants.

If I saw an expectant mother chain-smoking, I might go as far as letting her know that verbally... but that's probably as far as I'd take it.

Because, again, at the end of the day - it's her body... her choice.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-12-2008, 09:18 AM

True, that is the counter argument I have in my head. Though, in a country with a national health care system if the child ends up with associated complications it will be the public purse paying for her choice. Not to mention just generally wishing the baby well.

who · 03-12-2008, 09:19 AM

Why not just prevent smokers from having kids?

notoldschool · 03-12-2008, 09:20 AM

funny that some woman are suck selfish pigs that they start their babies life smoking cigs, drinking alchohol, and alot even do harder drugs while carrying.

Violetta · 03-12-2008, 09:23 AM

I just wanna slap her face HARD!

D · 03-12-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

True, that is the counter argument I have in my head. Though, in a country with a national health care system if the child ends up with associated complications it will be the public purse paying for her choice. Not to mention just generally wishing the baby well.

You could always thank them.

Thank her for doing what she can to ensure that her child is born with deformities, health problems, and learning disabilities so it's that much easier for your own future/current children to be deemed "above average" in their own lives, and enjoy the success that comes along with it.

Maybe that'll have the desired effect.

But then again, maybe that's over the top.

stephane76 · 03-12-2008, 09:29 AM

i see a selfish cunt that shouldn't be allowed to have a baby!

DirtyDanza · 03-12-2008, 09:29 AM

in america we have freedom of speech so when I see it I have nothing better to do than sit there and be-little the person.. call them all sorts of names... if she has a guy with her.. then be-little him for not controlling his bitch.....

AZSarah · 03-12-2008, 09:37 AM

That makes me sick.
No doubt that baby will be breathing her smoke throughout it's life in & out of the womb.
If there was ever a time or a reason to quit, it's when you find out you are pregnant.

MikeSmoke · 03-12-2008, 09:48 AM

Not to start a war here...but those of us who were born in the 40s/50s/60s grew up in a time where just about *all* pregnant mothers smoked - in fact, most of them chain smoked (I know all of my childhood friends' mothers smoked heavily while pregnant) - and we're all still here and functioning fine ;-)

Don't start flaming and misreading what I just said...it's obviously a bad thing to do. But especially if it's the occasional cigarette --- I don't think it's as draconian as people here seem to believe (give them up for adoption? shoot the mother?).

I'd be much more concerned about the pregnant women who smoke pot while their babies' brains are forming, under the 420 community's assumption that "pot is a lot less dangerous than cigarettes."

D · 03-12-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

and we're all still here and functioning fine ;-)

That's debatable.

CDSmith · 03-12-2008, 09:52 AM

A few years ago I saw a pregant woman sitting at a VLT gambling, her idiot husband/boyfriend standing behind her (eye-fucking the waitress and every chick in the place). Both her and her man were drunk as hell, both were smoking up a storm. They were laughing and joking and having a whooping good time at their unborn child's expense.

It was painfully obvious that anything anyone might have said to them would be wasted words met with blank, mindless, uncaring stares if not outright braindead sneering and swearing insults while defending their behavior.

Both were too drunk to even comprehend what anyone could say in the way of constuctive criticism.

Fucking idiots...

What else can you say?

moneybiz · 03-12-2008, 09:53 AM

I saw a pregnant woman smoking a cig and tring to get drugs from a payphone once. Then she came up to me and said he would do anything to me for 20$. This was at a gas station in downtown hollywood.

DirtyDanza · 03-12-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Not to start a war here...but those of us who were born in the 40s/50s/60s grew up in a time where just about *all* pregnant mothers smoked - in fact, most of them chain smoked (I know all of my childhood friends' mothers smoked heavily while pregnant) - and we're all still here and functioning fine ;-)

Don't start flaming and misreading what I just said...it's obviously a bad thing to do. But especially if it's the occasional cigarette --- I don't think it's as draconian as people here seem to believe (give them up for adoption? shoot the mother?).

I'd be much more concerned about the pregnant women who smoke pot while their babies' brains are forming, under the 420 community's assumption that "pot is a lot less dangerous than cigarettes."

good point... ...

Evil E · 03-12-2008, 09:57 AM

White Trash, Punch her in the Stomach.

Paco, of Large Cash. · 03-12-2008, 10:07 AM

add to the world one more bad mother!

I do not have any issues with smokers. If that is what they want to do so be it. BUT, when you willing accept the responsibility of having and raising a child, grow the fuck up, put all your petty shit aside and become a responsible parent!

I fuck hate and spit on people that have no idea how to live up to the responsibilities that they willingly took upon themselves!

But, hey! Society has become really good at allowing people to back out of life's little contracts (credit/loans, marriage, children, family matters, crime etc).

Oh well. I guess there's too many mouths in the world to feed and that stupid cunt attitude helps shut a few.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-12-2008, 10:20 AM

holy shit the replies here amaze me... obviously none of you are smokers? I am not, but my girlfriend is pregnant and is a smoker, just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!"

my girlfriend did cut back on how much she smokes but she cant just up and quit its not that easy...

and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

Evil E · 03-12-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

holy shit the replies here amaze me... obviously none of you are smokers? I am not, but my girlfriend is pregnant and is a smoker, just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!"

my girlfriend did cut back on how much she smokes but she cant just up and quit its not that easy...

and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

You might want to re-attach your balls sand slap some sense into your gf. If you let her smoke while having your kid, you are as irresponsible as she is.

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Cigarettes hurt babies

Tobacco use during pregnancy reduces the growth of babies during pregnancy. These smaller babies may not catch up in growth after birth, and the risks of infant illness, disability, and death are increased.

Medical Facts

Smoking mothers give birth to infants who weigh about 150 grams less at term than nonsmokers, and have a 140% increase in risk of intrauterine growth restriction (IUGR). A clear dose-response relationship exists between number of cigarettes smoked during pregnancy and the deficit in fetal growth.

IUGR infants have a higher risk of neonatal hypoglycemia and hypercalcemia, neonatal and postneonatal death, and mild deficits in long-term growth and neurocognitive development.

Gianna_CECash · 03-12-2008, 10:25 AM

I think that woman who are pregnant should NOT smoke, NOT good for her and definitely NOT good for the baby!!

Elli · 03-12-2008, 10:31 AM

I've heard the same thing about addiction withdrawals being worse for the baby than actually quitting smoking cold turkey. I can't imagine trying to beat a years-long addiction while under the stress of being pregnant and getting the house ready for a newborn and taking maternity leave at work, etc. But it still does strike me as highly irresponsible to smoke or drink while pregnant. Hell, I wouldn't even walk into a smokey bar if I was pregnant (or at least that's what I say now.)

Hell House Vic · 03-12-2008, 10:31 AM

well considering it used to be completely normal and we didn't get (m)any six armed babies I don't think it's worth raising a ruckus over.

I personally think, "geez, I wouldn't do that"

CDSmith · 03-12-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

holy shit the replies here amaze me... obviously none of you are smokers? I am not, but my girlfriend is pregnant and is a smoker, just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!"

my girlfriend did cut back on how much she smokes but she cant just up and quit its not that easy...

and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

Try doing some research before defending it.

http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20050...ys-asthma-risk

"Baby's asthma risk isn't the only reason not to smoke while pregnant. Besides damaging the woman's body, smoking during pregnancy can also:

Lower the amount of oxygen the baby gets
Increase the baby's heart rate
Increase the chances of miscarriage and stillbirth
Increase the chances of premature birth and/or low birth weight
Raise the baby's risk of developing lung problems "

http://health.discovery.com/centers/...y/smoking.html

" If all pregnant women stopped smoking while pregnant, there would be an estimated 10 percent reduction in infant deaths in this country, according to the U.S. Public Health Service."

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html

"It is no longer a question of whether or not the unborn will be harmed by nicotine use during pregnancy, but of the degree, number, types, noticeability and lifetime impact of the harms actually inflicted."

Quick search results of one search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...egnant&spell=1

1000's of sites and health care experts disagree with you Jaysin. You may want to light a fire under your girlfriend to think just a little more about the baby you and her and about to have and a little less about her driving need to suck toxic smoke through a paper tube day-in day-out.

Useless Warrior · 03-12-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Not to start a war here...but those of us who were born in the 40s/50s/60s grew up in a time where just about *all* pregnant mothers smoked - in fact, most of them chain smoked (I know all of my childhood friends' mothers smoked heavily while pregnant) - and we're all still here and functioning fine ;-)

But it's also a fact that the cigarettes being manufactured today are far less healthy than those of yesteryear. Many more harmful chemicals are in today's cigarettes.

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

Hey, if you don't care about your child's health, why should we care? If you think it's ok to inject carcinogens into a fetus, then go ahead. Most pregnant women quit cold turkey. Their mothering instincts kick in and overcome their physical and mental addiction to nicotine.

Keep in mind, I'm the kind of guy who won't let his friends smoke near his adolescent children. I certainly wouldn't have allowed them to blow smoke up my wife's vagina when she was pregnant.

Klen · 03-12-2008, 10:34 AM

I think"damn she must be fucked recently"

Holly · 03-12-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking

Yes she can.

Here's how she does it-

Don't light another fucking cigarette.

See how simple that was? And if her body "needed time" to tell her not to smoke again, then I would think she would have taken care of that before she got pregnant.

But let me guess- it was an unplanned pregnancy, right?

I bet her ovaries probably needed time to tell her to go get some birth control.

severe · 03-12-2008, 10:41 AM

just let natural selection run its course. no need to give the govt yet another thing to have control over

D · 03-12-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

holy shit the replies here amaze me... obviously none of you are smokers? I am not, but my girlfriend is pregnant and is a smoker, just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!"

my girlfriend did cut back on how much she smokes but she cant just up and quit its not that easy...

and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

It's her body... it's her choice.

Until the baby's out of her, it's - biologically - defined as a parasite in her system, so she's free to do whatever she likes, imho.

However, if she's lighting up regularly, don't you think she's - by definition -putting her own 'desires' before the 'needs' of her child?

How would you qualify a mother that behaves in such a fashion, yourself?

Perhaps "unfit" is a bit strong of a word... maybe "inexperienced?"

(BTW: I smoked a pack a day for 8 years)

Paco, of Large Cash. · 03-12-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

... doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!"

After 8 or so years a few friends and I made a simple wager to quit, cold turkey and we did. Back in November I quit smoking pot (cold turkey) for the fuck of it! Over a decade ago I quit the horse & the great white lie.

The mind is a powerful tool, if you use it properly. Problem is everybody is fed these ultra pathetic excuses and they gladly use them!

Funny how people mention ""the old days" yet they easily forget that in the ""old days"" they exercised a thing called will power. I guess when some of the primordial ooze evolved they decided it (will power) was not worth retaining.

If the future of their child is not ambition enough, should they even be a parent? Otherwise, fuck it right proper: it's just a rock here and there. It's not like I am doing it ... always!

tiger · 03-12-2008, 10:47 AM

It fucking sickens me. Mothers that do that shit don't deserve kids PERIOD.

u-Bob · 03-12-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by D

It's the mother's body.

no it's not, it's the child's health we are talking about.

Pregnant women who keep smoking deserve to go to prison...

CDSmith · 03-12-2008, 10:58 AM

Seriously, that whyquit page is incredibly interesting....

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html

"Pregnant women would be wise to reflect upon just how amazingly toxic nicotine is. Drop for drop it is more lethal than strychnine or diamondback rattlesnake venom, and three times deadlier than arsenic. Just 2-3 drops on the skin (40-60mg) will kill a 160 pound human. The average smoker puts 1 mg of nicotine into their bloodstream with each cigarette. If the entire 1 mg was put on the skin of a 1 pound rat, the rat would die.

Although you have probably long dreamed of someday ending your brain's chemical addiction upon nicotine, the sudden news of pregnancy and deep concern for the growing life inside can make it seem like you're being forced to quit. It can leave the " junkie mind" feeling deprived of someday quitting on its own terms. Instead of embracing the opportunity to live your own long held dream of quitting, far too many mothers-to-be quit only for the baby. Sadly, roughly half of all who quit during pregnancy relapse to smoking nicotine within hours, days or weeks of giving birth.

Instead of beginning a wonderful nicotine-free life together, these new babies have an actively feeding drug addict for a mother. Instead of being greeted by sweet smelling kisses, these babies bond their love with sensing the arrival of the nasty smells and odors of the over 4,000 chemicals that were just sucked into their mother's mouth and deposited upon her face, hands and clothing. Forced to either breathe lingering clouds of toxins or watch their mother depart at least hourly to tend and care for her addiction, when it comes to fresh air or love these new babies live a constantly interrupted life."

Their message? Don't quite solely for the sake of your child, quit for YOU.

"Your selection of your primary quitting motivation, and keeping it adequately fueled, is critical to permanent nicotine dependency recovery. Quitting for your unborn child all but assures nicotine relapse once you convince yourself that the greatest dangers have passed. By quitting for you, and allowing your baby to inherit the fruits of your decision, you set the stage to permanently arrest your dependency. Keep in mind that after giving birth most new mothers experience a brief period of minor sadness that may last up three weeks. What are the odds of you getting through this brief period without experiencing relapse if you failed to develop your own personal core recovery motivations and have no dreams or desires of your own to muster and rely upon?

It is normal to feel like you are being asked to make a tremendous sacrifice by quitting. You are but for a reason vastly different than dependency denial permits you to think. While it is normal for you to have falsely convinced yourself that you smoke because you like smoking, love smoking, to calm you when stressed, or for flavor or taste, the truth is, these are not the reasons you smoke. You smoke because you are a true drug addict in every sense, because nicotine has de-sensitized your brain, and the rising tide of anxieties can tend to hurt when you don’t smoke.

The truth is that the real quitting took place on the day that nicotine took command of your mind and thinking. You’re not giving up anything of value. Even the neurochemicals that nicotine controlled, each already belonged to you! You are coming home to an amazing sense of calm during crisis, to a clean, fresh and healthy you that your new baby will inherit, love and enjoy."

Plenty of links to support articles, all appear to be geared towards helping parents and prospective parents get the knowledge and assistance they need.

Great site, very well-written.

D · 03-12-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

no it's not, it's the child's health we are talking about.

Pregnant women who keep smoking deserve to go to prison...

Again, biologically, an unborn child is defined as a parasite.

That said, I'm not going to get into a religious discussion here. Your beliefs are your choice.

calista · 03-12-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Yeah and if you are going to smoke why would you pick right before you go into see the doctor to do it?

you got the point.. that woman has no mercy to the unborn angel...

MaDalton · 03-12-2008, 11:13 AM

i see that all the time over here - makes me want to slap them in the face

borked · 03-12-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Try doing some research before defending it.
Increase the baby's heart rate
Increase the chances of miscarriage and stillbirth
Increase the chances of premature birth and/or low birth weight

Those 3 things can also occur from riding in a car daily while pregnant

CDSmith · 03-12-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by borked

Those 3 things can also occur from riding in a car daily while pregnant

I provided links to accredited articles to back up my argument. Where are yours?

But regardless of if it's true or not, your point seems rather lame in light of the greater scope of the discussion. Your comment comes off like you are justifying putting a fetus at risk by smoking simply because other things can or may also have the same effect.

I'm going to hazard a guess that the chances of such things negatively affecting an unborn child due to smoking far outnumber instances of the same effect from riding in a car.

Looking forward to seeing some actual proof of what you just said though.

Paco, of Large Cash. · 03-12-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by D

Again, biologically, an unborn child is defined as a parasite.

That said, I'm not going to get into a religious discussion here. Your beliefs are your choice.

Hell, I consider most kids, those on social assistance, deadbeat dads, gold diggers etc parasites. However, it's not about the current state of the being. (Who gives a flying fuck what you want to call it at the stage of the game. I call the entire process a waste of time and semen.)

What is important is the health/condition of the entity after. You know, the point your kind finally define it as life, or alive. What about when the poor fucker AFTER it has been sprung and now faces a life of problems (emphysema etc).

morningstar · 03-12-2008, 11:42 AM

May be she want to kill her baby.

03-12-2008, 11:45 AM

The last thing we need is more laws introduced by the government to tell us what we can and can't do.

Of course she is a stupid bitch for smoking. But I've seen a few people who smoked during their pregnancy spit out healthy kids. If they are stupid enough to want to take that chance, then let them deal with the consequences.

It's a slippery slope whenever you start talking about personal freedoms.

The Ontario government recently banned smoking in cars with kids in them. Obviously a good thing for the health of children, but we shouldn't have to make laws to regulate common sense. What's next, banning smoking in your home if you have kids? Banning smoking entirely? What's next on the ban list? Alcohol? Last time that didn't work out so good.

Again, I don't smoke and think it is stupid to, but everyone is always too quick to want to "regulate" things. I'm getting sick of the government coming out with new laws every week and adding stiffer penalties for things that tons of people do every day. Most of the time it just becomes another tax grab.

03-12-2008, 08:52 AM	#1
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	What do you think when you see a pregnant woman smoking? It doesn't happen that often these days but earlier today I had a doctor's appointment and right outside the glass doors of the waiting area was this pregnant woman. She had on this pair of low riding track bottoms/jogging pants that made her bump stick out. Which is classy enough considering it is fricking cold in London today and we are in the middle of a wind storm. Then she starts puffing away on a ciggie. You could almost feel the hush in the waiting room as she was spotted. What do you think when you see a pregnant woman smoking? Should it be against the law to smoke when you are pregnant?

03-12-2008, 08:55 AM	#2
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Jennyfer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 1,708	A friend was told by a doctor that is better having one cigarrette a month then stop it completely during the pregnancy but i don't remember the medical explanation behind it. If that was her only cig that month that's fine, otherwise poor baby! __________________ PICK YOUR PPS! ICQ: 306-858-613 SIGN UP NOW!

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Nydahl Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: closer then it appears Posts: 6,655	I am a hard smoker and I always critise banning of smoking as its every1s choise. But this is different game - it should be banned for sure.Can't believe that some mothers do that. __________________ www.garciniatrio.com www.acaitrio.com www.greencoffeetrio.com ICQ 153918034 email [email protected]

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Yeah and if you are going to smoke why would you pick right before you go into see the doctor to do it?

03-12-2008, 09:15 AM	#11
WebCashMaker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,726	I don't like it... but at least it is not a crack pipe ! __________________

03-12-2008, 09:16 AM	#12
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	It's the mother's body. It's the mother's choice. Granted, I, personally, feel that if she's having more than a cig a day, she should - maybe - be approached about the prospect of giving her child up for adoption when it's born... because I'm thinking she'll probably be an unfit mother... but it's still her call to be an ignorant fuck-twit, if she wants. If I saw an expectant mother chain-smoking, I might go as far as letting her know that verbally... but that's probably as far as I'd take it. Because, again, at the end of the day - it's her body... her choice. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

03-12-2008, 09:18 AM	#13
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	True, that is the counter argument I have in my head. Though, in a country with a national health care system if the child ends up with associated complications it will be the public purse paying for her choice. Not to mention just generally wishing the baby well.

03-12-2008, 09:19 AM	#14
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Why not just prevent smokers from having kids?

03-12-2008, 09:20 AM	#15
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	funny that some woman are suck selfish pigs that they start their babies life smoking cigs, drinking alchohol, and alot even do harder drugs while carrying. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

03-12-2008, 09:23 AM	#16
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I just wanna slap her face HARD! __________________ M&A Queen

03-12-2008, 09:29 AM	#18
stephane76 Best VOD Company Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NC Posts: 3,888	i see a selfish cunt that shouldn't be allowed to have a baby!

03-12-2008, 09:29 AM	#19
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	in america we have freedom of speech so when I see it I have nothing better to do than sit there and be-little the person.. call them all sorts of names... if she has a guy with her.. then be-little him for not controlling his bitch..... __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

03-12-2008, 09:37 AM	#20
AZSarah Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Bird, AZ Posts: 1,651	That makes me sick. No doubt that baby will be breathing her smoke throughout it's life in & out of the womb. If there was ever a time or a reason to quit, it's when you find out you are pregnant. __________________ Icq- 470-936-598

03-12-2008, 09:48 AM	#21
MikeSmoke Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,233	Not to start a war here...but those of us who were born in the 40s/50s/60s grew up in a time where just about all pregnant mothers smoked - in fact, most of them chain smoked (I know all of my childhood friends' mothers smoked heavily while pregnant) - and we're all still here and functioning fine ;-) Don't start flaming and misreading what I just said...it's obviously a bad thing to do. But especially if it's the occasional cigarette --- I don't think it's as draconian as people here seem to believe (give them up for adoption? shoot the mother?). I'd be much more concerned about the pregnant women who smoke pot while their babies' brains are forming, under the 420 community's assumption that "pot is a lot less dangerous than cigarettes." __________________ icq: 541-739-92

03-12-2008, 09:52 AM	#23
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	A few years ago I saw a pregant woman sitting at a VLT gambling, her idiot husband/boyfriend standing behind her (eye-fucking the waitress and every chick in the place). Both her and her man were drunk as hell, both were smoking up a storm. They were laughing and joking and having a whooping good time at their unborn child's expense. It was painfully obvious that anything anyone might have said to them would be wasted words met with blank, mindless, uncaring stares if not outright braindead sneering and swearing insults while defending their behavior. Both were too drunk to even comprehend what anyone could say in the way of constuctive criticism. Fucking idiots... What else can you say? __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634 Last edited by CDSmith; 03-12-2008 at 09:53 AM..

03-12-2008, 09:53 AM	#24
moneybiz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,391	I saw a pregnant woman smoking a cig and tring to get drugs from a payphone once. Then she came up to me and said he would do anything to me for 20$. This was at a gas station in downtown hollywood.

03-12-2008, 09:57 AM	#26
Evil E Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lazyness is a lifestyle Posts: 3,201	White Trash, Punch her in the Stomach.

03-12-2008, 10:07 AM	#27
Paco, of Large Cash. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: --> . <-- Posts: 2,267	add to the world one more bad mother! I do not have any issues with smokers. If that is what they want to do so be it. BUT, when you willing accept the responsibility of having and raising a child, grow the fuck up, put all your petty shit aside and become a responsible parent! I fuck hate and spit on people that have no idea how to live up to the responsibilities that they willingly took upon themselves! But, hey! Society has become really good at allowing people to back out of life's little contracts (credit/loans, marriage, children, family matters, crime etc). Oh well. I guess there's too many mouths in the world to feed and that stupid cunt attitude helps shut a few. Last edited by Paco, of Large Cash.; 03-12-2008 at 10:09 AM..

03-12-2008, 10:20 AM	#28
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	holy shit the replies here amaze me... obviously none of you are smokers? I am not, but my girlfriend is pregnant and is a smoker, just because shes pregnant doesnt mean she can just up and stop smoking, it takes a while your body doesnt just say "hey baby, dont smoke anymore, no need for the cravings!" my girlfriend did cut back on how much she smokes but she cant just up and quit its not that easy... and saying shes an unfit mother and doesnt deserve a kid because of it, give me a fucking break, if thats how you feel because of a cigarette then you better go after mothers who are alot worse then that...

03-12-2008, 10:25 AM	#30
Gianna_CECash Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The World Posts: 1,135	I think that woman who are pregnant should NOT smoke, NOT good for her and definitely NOT good for the baby!! __________________ CE Gianna [email protected] ICQ : 831432

03-12-2008, 10:31 AM	#31
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I've heard the same thing about addiction withdrawals being worse for the baby than actually quitting smoking cold turkey. I can't imagine trying to beat a years-long addiction while under the stress of being pregnant and getting the house ready for a newborn and taking maternity leave at work, etc. But it still does strike me as highly irresponsible to smoke or drink while pregnant. Hell, I wouldn't even walk into a smokey bar if I was pregnant (or at least that's what I say now.) __________________ email: [email protected]

03-12-2008, 10:31 AM	#32
Hell House Vic Pay to Cum Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nor San Diego Posts: 1,029	well considering it used to be completely normal and we didn't get (m)any six armed babies I don't think it's worth raising a ruckus over. I personally think, "geez, I wouldn't do that" __________________ Contact Me - ICQ: 206851710 eMail vic (at) hellhousemedia (dot) com 'Satanism is like Capitalism for teens' - Ty HellHouse

03-12-2008, 10:34 AM	#35
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I think"damn she must be fucked recently"

03-12-2008, 10:41 AM	#37
severe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 331	just let natural selection run its course. no need to give the govt yet another thing to have control over

03-12-2008, 10:47 AM	#40
tiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,986	It fucking sickens me. Mothers that do that shit don't deserve kids PERIOD. __________________

03-12-2008, 10:58 AM	#42
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Seriously, that whyquit page is incredibly interesting.... http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html "Pregnant women would be wise to reflect upon just how amazingly toxic nicotine is. Drop for drop it is more lethal than strychnine or diamondback rattlesnake venom, and three times deadlier than arsenic. Just 2-3 drops on the skin (40-60mg) will kill a 160 pound human. The average smoker puts 1 mg of nicotine into their bloodstream with each cigarette. If the entire 1 mg was put on the skin of a 1 pound rat, the rat would die. Although you have probably long dreamed of someday ending your brain's chemical addiction upon nicotine, the sudden news of pregnancy and deep concern for the growing life inside can make it seem like you're being forced to quit. It can leave the " junkie mind" feeling deprived of someday quitting on its own terms. Instead of embracing the opportunity to live your own long held dream of quitting, far too many mothers-to-be quit only for the baby. Sadly, roughly half of all who quit during pregnancy relapse to smoking nicotine within hours, days or weeks of giving birth. Instead of beginning a wonderful nicotine-free life together, these new babies have an actively feeding drug addict for a mother. Instead of being greeted by sweet smelling kisses, these babies bond their love with sensing the arrival of the nasty smells and odors of the over 4,000 chemicals that were just sucked into their mother's mouth and deposited upon her face, hands and clothing. Forced to either breathe lingering clouds of toxins or watch their mother depart at least hourly to tend and care for her addiction, when it comes to fresh air or love these new babies live a constantly interrupted life." Their message? Don't quite solely for the sake of your child, quit for YOU. "Your selection of your primary quitting motivation, and keeping it adequately fueled, is critical to permanent nicotine dependency recovery. Quitting for your unborn child all but assures nicotine relapse once you convince yourself that the greatest dangers have passed. By quitting for you, and allowing your baby to inherit the fruits of your decision, you set the stage to permanently arrest your dependency. Keep in mind that after giving birth most new mothers experience a brief period of minor sadness that may last up three weeks. What are the odds of you getting through this brief period without experiencing relapse if you failed to develop your own personal core recovery motivations and have no dreams or desires of your own to muster and rely upon? It is normal to feel like you are being asked to make a tremendous sacrifice by quitting. You are but for a reason vastly different than dependency denial permits you to think. While it is normal for you to have falsely convinced yourself that you smoke because you like smoking, love smoking, to calm you when stressed, or for flavor or taste, the truth is, these are not the reasons you smoke. You smoke because you are a true drug addict in every sense, because nicotine has de-sensitized your brain, and the rising tide of anxieties can tend to hurt when you don’t smoke. The truth is that the real quitting took place on the day that nicotine took command of your mind and thinking. You’re not giving up anything of value. Even the neurochemicals that nicotine controlled, each already belonged to you! You are coming home to an amazing sense of calm during crisis, to a clean, fresh and healthy you that your new baby will inherit, love and enjoy." Plenty of links to support articles, all appear to be geared towards helping parents and prospective parents get the knowledge and assistance they need. Great site, very well-written. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

03-12-2008, 11:13 AM	#45
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,829	i see that all the time over here - makes me want to slap them in the face __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

03-12-2008, 11:42 AM	#49
morningstar Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 443	May be she want to kill her baby.

03-12-2008, 11:45 AM	#50
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	The last thing we need is more laws introduced by the government to tell us what we can and can't do. Of course she is a stupid bitch for smoking. But I've seen a few people who smoked during their pregnancy spit out healthy kids. If they are stupid enough to want to take that chance, then let them deal with the consequences. It's a slippery slope whenever you start talking about personal freedoms. The Ontario government recently banned smoking in cars with kids in them. Obviously a good thing for the health of children, but we shouldn't have to make laws to regulate common sense. What's next, banning smoking in your home if you have kids? Banning smoking entirely? What's next on the ban list? Alcohol? Last time that didn't work out so good. Again, I don't smoke and think it is stupid to, but everyone is always too quick to want to "regulate" things. I'm getting sick of the government coming out with new laws every week and adding stiffer penalties for things that tons of people do every day. Most of the time it just becomes another tax grab.