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Old 03-11-2008, 06:08 AM   #1
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:stop Porn Has Gone To The Birds!!! (Pics)



Two Giants Merge?

Loki "The godfather of 3D Porn" has teamed up with "The Heron" longtime online porn veteran.

V1rtualDesires meets Birdbucks.com


V1rtualDesires?

Launched in late 2001 with its fledging affiliate program "V1rtual Desires Cash" was the premiere creator of original 3D erotic content and one of the first to pioneer the adult 3D toon market. It was the first company to feature only 3D content and run completely by the artists who made the content.

Over the years the company was headed up by its founder Jason "Loki" Smith who saw to most of the day to day activities while creating most of the 3D content. He managed all of the paysites as well as the overall marketing and promotions of the company.

In 2003 V1rtual Desires opened its stand alone affiliate program "Planet X Cash" to the adult webmaster community and became one of adults "best kept secrets". With just a small handful of affiliates and no advertising other that word of mouth and various press articles they saw conversions for their 3D paysites averaging at 1:500 from basic toon traffic.

Loki dubbed "The Godfather of 3D Porn" and featured on may Adult Webmaster Radio Shows and interviewed in various trade magazines. As many of you may have heard, due to unforeseen circumstances, The Godfather Of 3D, was going to "retire" and close the doors on this long standing and trusted affiliate program.

That is until now?

Birdbucks.com?.

Originally started by longtime online porn veteran "The Heron" BirdBucks.com is a unique affiliate program focused on providing tools to promote the programs many niche paysites.

The Heron has been working in online porn since 1999 starting as an affiliate building freesites in the non nude and teen niche market.

He quickly grew his empire experimenting with many different types of sites including large TGP's, linklists, blogs, AVS, and other methods of generating traffic which has given him an understanding and appreciation of affiliates.

Since his first freesite TeensWithBraces.com The Heron has always focused on using niche content to fill surfer needs and avoid competition from the more general adult market.

His large network of sites can be seen on TheHeron.net which demonstrates his understanding of the online porn industry from the perspective of an affiliate.

As one of the original founders of the non nude porn scene, he has been an active poster on many adult webmaster boards including GFY as well as having been to many webmaster conventions over the years. This has made him a familiar face among webmasters and through the years he has built a reputation as a smart and honest webmaster.

3D toon content soon caught his attention and from that moment on he has been focusing all his energy on this exciting and unsaturated niche market.

The Heron has not only found a product that he can be proud to offer to his affiliates but found a niche market with the potential for expansion that he can stake his reputation on.

Now Loki has partnered with the BirdBucks to create the biggest and best 3D program ever to hit the web! If your ready to build your nest egg then you need to sign-up today and start making money with 3D Toons!



Take advantage of their "Power Affiliate Tools" where you will be given custom content to promote their many 3D websites. And as the Godfather of 3d Porn says "Were here to help you with damn near anything you need to maximize your traffic and sales". From sales text, keywords, custom content , branded content and marketing techniques, just have a sit down with him and he'll get you on the right track.

Signing up with this premier 3D Program is a no brainer. They know exactly what your surfers want, and what it takes to keep them satisfied for months.

BirdBucks.com

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Old 03-11-2008, 07:11 AM   #2
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Looking good Jason!
By the way I need someone offed "Godfather"
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those girls are hot, nice work Loki! good luck guys with the new program
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Looking good Jason!
By the way I need someone offed "Godfather"

We've known each other for many years but this is the first time you've ever come to me for counsel or for help. I can't remember the last time you invited me to your house for a cup of coffee, But, let's be frank here. You never wanted my friendship and you were afraid to be in my debt.

But, now you come to me and you say "Godfather, I need someone offed." But you don't ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me Sweetheart. Instead, you come into my thread on the day we are launching BirdBucks.com and you ask me to do murder for money.


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Who said anything about paying you?? I offered you a chance to get out of the frozen tundra but you declined. Just tossing my gesture of kindness to the wind. So, I'll just off them myself and you can kiss my ass! You aren't even Italian ya mook!

Seriously, best of luck with the new gig!
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Who said anything about paying you?? I offered you a chance to get out of the frozen tundra but you declined. Just tossing my gesture of kindness to the wind. So, I'll just off them myself and you can kiss my ass! You aren't even Italian ya mook!

Seriously, best of luck with the new gig!
Kre8t0r, Kre8t0r, What have I ever done to make you to treat me so disrespectfully. If you had come to me in friendship then this scum that ruined your toaster would be suffering this very day. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies. And then, they would fear you.

And who said I wasn't Italian lol

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Loki!! What's going on man? Long time no talk.

Hit me up on icq 474-919-042


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Kre8t0r, Kre8t0r, What have I ever done to make you to treat me so disrespectfully. If you had come to me in friendship then this scum that ruined your toaster would be suffering this very day. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies. And then, they would fear you.

And who said I wasn't Italian lol

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Well concidering I was your 2nd in the old 3D days and now I am forced to watch you and the "Birdie" launch this and I didn't even get an offer to be your Consigliere, well lets just say I am deeply hurt. You have everyone in our homeland crying you selfish fuck! Careful or I'll send a fish over..
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Well concidering I was your 2nd in the old 3D days and now I am forced to watch you and the "Birdie" launch this and I didn't even get an offer to be your Consigliere, well lets just say I am deeply hurt. You have everyone in our homeland crying you selfish fuck! Careful or I'll send a fish over..
Kre8t0r you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever.


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I may be your older brother but you seem to be forgetting I am also the Capo di tutti capi... Keep it up and I will have to forego family ties and you will be sleeping with the fishies like anyone else!

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I may be your older brother but you seem to be forgetting I am also the Capo di tutti capi... Keep it up and I will have to forego family ties and you will be sleeping with the fishies like anyone else!

You're not a wartime Consigliari, Kre8t0r. Things could get rough with the move we're making.

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The Heron would like to thank Loki for his hard work and all the affiliates that have helped beta test and ensure that this program will be a success.

If anyone needs help or has ideas feel free to bother Loki or myself!
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Your 3D Porn has been the best I have ever seen - and always drawn in such a way to make me reconsider real life models LOL
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Your 3D Porn has been the best I have ever seen - and always drawn in such a way to make me reconsider real life models LOL
Thanks As the years have gone by I do have to admit that my renders have gotten better and better, this year I'm hoping to make the jump to rendering more fluid Videos and once that happens we will be making them available to both our paysites as well as offering them as "plug-ins" for other companies to use on their paysites.

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Almost forgot, even though these girls look fucking real they aren't... so 2257 has no bearing and our models never flake out and quit so we're in it for the long haul!
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Almost forgot, even though these girls look fucking real they aren't... so 2257 has no bearing and our models never flake out and quit so we're in it for the long haul!
You forgot to mention this.....

Our models will NEVER all the sudden find Jesus or convert to Islam, forcing us in long costly court cases to pull down all of their content.

Nor do they have any Angry boyfriends, ex husbands, current husbands or fathers/step fathers to talk them out of doing their job.

They also never have periods, are never late for work, and very rarely do they ever demand more money to do a shoot!

Face it, toons are better then real models ;)

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You forgot to mention this.....

Our models will NEVER all the sudden find Jesus or convert to Islam, forcing us in long costly court cases to pull down all of their content.

Nor do they have any Angry boyfriends, ex husbands, current husbands or fathers/step fathers to talk them out of doing their job.

They also never have periods, are never late for work, and very rarely do they ever demand more money to do a shoot!

Face it, toons are better then real models ;)

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Hey, I tried to log on over you know where, and I forgot my pass lol, let a nigga back in.

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You forgot to mention this.....

Our models will NEVER all the sudden find Jesus or convert to Islam, forcing us in long costly court cases to pull down all of their content.

Nor do they have any Angry boyfriends, ex husbands, current husbands or fathers/step fathers to talk them out of doing their job.

They also never have periods, are never late for work, and very rarely do they ever demand more money to do a shoot!

Face it, toons are better then real models ;)

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Guess it's time to start a TOON blog
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Hahaha Id be scared to say that word on here too.
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That's a great idea, lots of terms to seo for with little competition in this niche!
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Hahaha Id be scared to say that word on here too.
Which word would that be? lol

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Guess it's time to start a TOON blog
Make sure to hit me up for a "Sitdown" I have a nice collection of sales text and keywords that any toon blog needs to have!

and don't forget I'll be creating custom branded content for any active affils that want it (Like the top image in this thread)

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please post your ratios.
Under my old program Plane***ash AnimePlanetX.com saw on average 1:500 - 1:800 via toon TGP traffic

I'll have The Heron post what he has for 3DFuckSluts.com.

The other two sites AnimeFuckSluts & Superxx3d.com have literally just launched a few days ago.

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For 3dfucksluts.com we only recently put up the new design (earlier version was placeholder crappy) and haven't fully tested it with toon or 3d traffic but one affiliate sending to galleries from a large TEEN tgp is getting around 1:800raw, so obviously if you target a bit more you can trim that down considerably.

I don't think you can really compare ratios though since we aren't going to be competing with your normal ads, people who buy to 3d/toon paysites are going to also buy to your other ads as well so it's like bonus money.
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did u just say birdbucks?
Did someone say BUMPAGE??

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Old 03-11-2008, 07:57 PM   #45
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