Announcement: AC Pay / No Fees - GoFuckYourself.com

bradestes · 10-08-2002, 11:23 AM

(We just sent this to our Clients and after speaking with Eric @ GFY I thought it would be good to post it here.)

Webmasters,

In the wake of Webmaster comments following the announcement of new VISA USA regulations, we feel it is important to address why AC Pay is not affected and how AC Pay can help your business succeed under these conditions.

First, due to our worldwide process arrangements and seven years of experience at processing high volumes of transactions, AC Pay does not anticipate that the registration fees required by VISA USA will apply to our Webmaster Clients. In addition, our non U.S. webmasters will not have to set-up a corporate presence in the U.S. as some of our competitors are requiring.

AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA. There is a chance that VISA International may adopt these regulations in the future, however VISA International has traditionally had a much better track record of cooperation between itself and its acquiring banks and merchants.

Our redundant banking relationships spanning the globe combined with the structure of our business mean that AC Pay is much more stable than other processors in the industry. AC Pay not only screens fraudulent transactions more accurately via our Profile Check scoring system, we also get more transactions processed due to our ability to attempt transactions through multiple banking channels in a fraction of a second.

Second, AC Pay has strong and healthy relationships with VISA and MasterCard due to our professionalism and track record over these seven years in business. These relationships made us aware of the recently announced regulations over six months ago and allowed us to enter the paysite billing marketplace with a quality product and a distinct advantage.

Third, AC Pay values its Clients both large and small. We will keep you apprised of any future regulations that may impact the way we do business together. Further, we will always leverage our weight in the processing industry to make your voices heard and keep unnecessary costs down. We appreciate the fact that any fee impacts your bottom line and would never hide an announcement regarding fees until the last minute in an attempt to back you into a corner.

We understand that the current processing climate can be a stressful one for you and your companies. To help alleviate this stress, we have a qualified and highly intelligent staff that KNOWS YOUR BUSINESS MODEL and will help you through these times.

Currently we are offering a rate of 14.5% (goes down based on volume) to any Webmaster interested in setting up AC Pay as a primary or tertiary processor on their paysites. There are no setup fees, monthly fees or any fees to use our advanced affiliate / reseller program.

We are happy to work one-on-one with you to migrate your business over to AC Pay and our team of trained support staff will come up with a plan specifically tailored to your site(s) and your business.

The entire staff at AC Pay would love the opportunity to earn your trust and your business. Our success is linked and our goals are in sync with yours.

https://clients.acpay.com/

To demo our system, please feel free to login to our demo account below:

https://clients.acpay.com/

Client ID: 20001
Password: demoacpay

Brad Estes
Director of Business Development

818-779-1345 x 3492
800-627-2553 x 3492
[email protected]
ICQ: 119007485

E-Randy · 10-08-2002, 11:26 AM

All these announcements are starting to look like SPAM!

^R3K^ · 10-08-2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by E-Randy
All these announcements are starting to look like SPAM!

aww shut up.. he pays for spots..

Besides your two 120x60 buttons look like spam to me

Eric · 10-08-2002, 11:28 AM

These guys are cool. And this is a big announcement.

TDF · 10-08-2002, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^R3K^

aww shut up.. he pays for spots..

Besides your two 120x60 buttons look like spam to me

hahahaha

pipp · 10-08-2002, 11:31 AM

I think you can call Adult Check established

Rictor · 10-08-2002, 11:35 AM

Brad,

I notice when you click on Reseller Sign-up it says "coming soon". How soon?

bradestes · 10-08-2002, 11:36 AM

We should be opening up the Reseller program tonight. Would have done it last week, but I didn't want to do it when I was out of the country at the Island Gathering (which was a blast BTW). We need somebody to post some pics!

Brad

Rictor · 10-08-2002, 11:37 AM

"Each chargeback is assessed a fee of $25.00 (per transaction). Each refund is assessed a fee of $1.00 (per transaction). These fees can be increased in cases of extreme chargebacks. No portion of the fee is passed onto the referring reseller."

So the resellers in my 50/50 program that send my chargebacks don't get charged for it? Seems like this program would be easy to fraud.

bradestes · 10-08-2002, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
"Each chargeback is assessed a fee of $25.00 (per transaction). Each refund is assessed a fee of $1.00 (per transaction). These fees can be increased in cases of extreme chargebacks. No portion of the fee is passed onto the referring reseller."

So the resellers in my 50/50 program that send my chargebacks don't get charged for it? Seems like this program would be easy to fraud.

You have the ability to turn off individual resellers in cases where they are causing you problems. A commensurate percentage of the initial transaction is still passed along to the reseller in the event of a refund or chargeback.

Brad

Rictor · 10-08-2002, 11:54 AM

Okay, thanks for the speedy answers.

JFK · 10-08-2002, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
These guys are cool. And this is a big announcement.

Right On Eric !I have been dealing with them for over 3 yrs ! On time every time NO BULLSHIT ! Give them a listen!

Indeed · 10-08-2002, 12:57 PM

"AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA."

Here is the key sentence. Why do Epoch, CCBill etc..keep scaring webmasters by stating these rules ARE adopted by VISA international?

jimmyf · 10-08-2002, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed
"AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA."

Here is the key sentence. Why do Epoch, CCBill etc..keep scaring webmasters by stating these rules ARE adopted by VISA international?

I guess because they are not telling the truth. Shame...Shame...Shame...Shame

vik · 10-08-2002, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by E-Randy
All these announcements are starting to look like SPAM!

Brad has been around and with Adult Check for a long time. I've met him at many IA2000/Internext shows. Any of you guys with AC on your sites should recognize his name.

Rock on!

vik

Brown Bear · 10-08-2002, 05:02 PM

AC PAY looks good!

Nice clean design too

E-Randy · 10-08-2002, 05:22 PM

LMAO... Who's adultcheck??? Man, I've only been in the industry since '96. I'm a fucking newb! I'll check out ACPay and see how it compares to my current processor. I just hate integrating new processors into my affiliate program. Rebills don't matter for me anyways since we only do one time ppv charges.

About the 3 players and why they are they are following the regs. Their contract for becoming IPSP's probably has a clause that restricts them from holding merchant accounts in the US and Internationally under the same company. Maybe that's why they are being so grouchy and shit.

JFK · 10-08-2002, 06:02 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by E-Randy
[B]LMAO... Who's adultcheck??? Man, I've only been in the industry since '96. I'm a fucking newb! I'll check out ACPay and see how it compares to my current processor.

What is more important Who The Fuck Are You?? Adult Check is the largest AVS by Far............and if you have been in the busines since 96, as you claim, you must have been hiding under a rock not to have known about them!

E-Randy · 10-08-2002, 06:11 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JFK
[B]

Quote:

Originally posted by E-Randy
LMAO... Who's adultcheck??? Man, I've only been in the industry since '96. I'm a fucking newb! I'll check out ACPay and see how it compares to my current processor.

What is more important Who The Fuck Are You?? Adult Check is the largest AVS by Far............and if you have been in the busines since 96, as you claim, you must have been hiding under a rock not to have known about them!

Dude, it's called sarcasm! They started their business 10 minutes from my house... I know plenty of the big players in the industry and I've made plenty of cash in case you're questioning my credentials. I just don't run around telling everyone my biz.

JFK · 10-08-2002, 06:14 PM

Sorry I am not up on my Sarcasm lessons lately........ I will say 3 hail o Mary's to beg for forgiveness

E-Randy · 10-08-2002, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Sorry I am not up on my Sarcasm lessons lately........ I will say 3 hail o Mary's to beg for forgiveness

LOL... you have been forgiven! I need a fucken drink... time to go home.

Honeyslut · 10-08-2002, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed
"AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA."

Here is the key sentence. Why do Epoch, CCBill etc..keep scaring webmasters by stating these rules ARE adopted by VISA international?

Sounds like people in earlier threads owe Globill an apology !

JFK · 10-08-2002, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by E-Randy

LOL... you have been forgiven! I need a fucken drink... time to go home.

So Do I............. make it a double........

salsbury · 10-08-2002, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut
Sounds like people in earlier threads owe Globill an apology !

heh, or .. otherwise. who knows. it's about 50/50 now.

Amputate Your Head · 10-08-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Sounds like people in earlier threads owe Globill an apology !

it'll never happen Honey... they'll defend the Big 3 to the end. No matter how many things are pointed out every day. Very difficult to teach old dogs new tricks....

10-08-2002, 11:23 AM	#1
bradestes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	Announcement: AC Pay / No Fees (We just sent this to our Clients and after speaking with Eric @ GFY I thought it would be good to post it here.) Webmasters, In the wake of Webmaster comments following the announcement of new VISA USA regulations, we feel it is important to address why AC Pay is not affected and how AC Pay can help your business succeed under these conditions. First, due to our worldwide process arrangements and seven years of experience at processing high volumes of transactions, AC Pay does not anticipate that the registration fees required by VISA USA will apply to our Webmaster Clients. In addition, our non U.S. webmasters will not have to set-up a corporate presence in the U.S. as some of our competitors are requiring. AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA. There is a chance that VISA International may adopt these regulations in the future, however VISA International has traditionally had a much better track record of cooperation between itself and its acquiring banks and merchants. Our redundant banking relationships spanning the globe combined with the structure of our business mean that AC Pay is much more stable than other processors in the industry. AC Pay not only screens fraudulent transactions more accurately via our Profile Check scoring system, we also get more transactions processed due to our ability to attempt transactions through multiple banking channels in a fraction of a second. Second, AC Pay has strong and healthy relationships with VISA and MasterCard due to our professionalism and track record over these seven years in business. These relationships made us aware of the recently announced regulations over six months ago and allowed us to enter the paysite billing marketplace with a quality product and a distinct advantage. Third, AC Pay values its Clients both large and small. We will keep you apprised of any future regulations that may impact the way we do business together. Further, we will always leverage our weight in the processing industry to make your voices heard and keep unnecessary costs down. We appreciate the fact that any fee impacts your bottom line and would never hide an announcement regarding fees until the last minute in an attempt to back you into a corner. We understand that the current processing climate can be a stressful one for you and your companies. To help alleviate this stress, we have a qualified and highly intelligent staff that KNOWS YOUR BUSINESS MODEL and will help you through these times. Currently we are offering a rate of 14.5% (goes down based on volume) to any Webmaster interested in setting up AC Pay as a primary or tertiary processor on their paysites. There are no setup fees, monthly fees or any fees to use our advanced affiliate / reseller program. We are happy to work one-on-one with you to migrate your business over to AC Pay and our team of trained support staff will come up with a plan specifically tailored to your site(s) and your business. The entire staff at AC Pay would love the opportunity to earn your trust and your business. Our success is linked and our goals are in sync with yours. https://clients.acpay.com/ To demo our system, please feel free to login to our demo account below: https://clients.acpay.com/ Client ID: 20001 Password: demoacpay Brad Estes Director of Business Development 818-779-1345 x 3492 800-627-2553 x 3492 [email protected] ICQ: 119007485 __________________ [email protected] https://clients.acpay.com/

10-08-2002, 11:26 AM	#2
E-Randy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 176	All these announcements are starting to look like SPAM! __________________ ElectraContent.com 31 KICK ASS plugin products for $399! Massive Rods, College Girls, Panties, Lesbians, Toys and dildos, Dirty Blondes, Petite, Interracial, Sexy Housewives........

10-08-2002, 11:28 AM	#4
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	These guys are cool. And this is a big announcement. __________________ No One

10-08-2002, 11:36 AM	#8
bradestes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	We should be opening up the Reseller program tonight. Would have done it last week, but I didn't want to do it when I was out of the country at the Island Gathering (which was a blast BTW). We need somebody to post some pics! Brad __________________ [email protected] https://clients.acpay.com/

10-08-2002, 05:02 PM	#16
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	AC PAY looks good! Nice clean design too __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-08-2002, 11:31 AM	#6
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	I think you can call Adult Check established

10-08-2002, 11:35 AM	#7
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Brad, I notice when you click on Reseller Sign-up it says "coming soon". How soon?

10-08-2002, 11:37 AM	#9
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	"Each chargeback is assessed a fee of $25.00 (per transaction). Each refund is assessed a fee of $1.00 (per transaction). These fees can be increased in cases of extreme chargebacks. No portion of the fee is passed onto the referring reseller." So the resellers in my 50/50 program that send my chargebacks don't get charged for it? Seems like this program would be easy to fraud.

10-08-2002, 11:54 AM	#11
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Okay, thanks for the speedy answers.

10-08-2002, 12:57 PM	#13
Indeed Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,892	"AC Pay has a presence in other regions of the world and processes its VISA transactions through VISA International, which has not adopted the new regulations made by VISA USA." Here is the key sentence. Why do Epoch, CCBill etc..keep scaring webmasters by stating these rules ARE adopted by VISA international?

10-08-2002, 05:22 PM	#17
E-Randy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 176	LMAO... Who's adultcheck??? Man, I've only been in the industry since '96. I'm a fucking newb! I'll check out ACPay and see how it compares to my current processor. I just hate integrating new processors into my affiliate program. Rebills don't matter for me anyways since we only do one time ppv charges. About the 3 players and why they are they are following the regs. Their contract for becoming IPSP's probably has a clause that restricts them from holding merchant accounts in the US and Internationally under the same company. Maybe that's why they are being so grouchy and shit. __________________ ElectraContent.com 31 KICK ASS plugin products for $399! Massive Rods, College Girls, Panties, Lesbians, Toys and dildos, Dirty Blondes, Petite, Interracial, Sexy Housewives........

10-08-2002, 06:02 PM	#18
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10-08-2002, 06:14 PM	#20
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