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Old 03-05-2008, 02:40 PM   #1
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:mad More deliberate animal abuse by American military (SICK VIDS)

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Old 03-05-2008, 03:02 PM   #2
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Ah yes, nothing new with shooting animals during a time of war.. only a problem with people when it's a house pet they like. This is also why the media is pushed out of this war.. your every day person can't take the 'real pictures of war'... if a dog bothers them, pfft.

These guys are stuck in a war, filled with people wanting to kill them, not knowing if they will die in the next moment. They live to see family/kids/wife, ect.. outside of that they have no reason to live - and most other than to see familiy, would rather die. The mental level changes once rounds come flying by.

So shooting a dog, isn't really something they give fucks about.
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Ah yes, nothing new with shooting animals during a time of war.. only a problem with people when it's a house pet they like. This is also why the media is pushed out of this war.. your every day person can't take the 'real pictures of war'... if a dog bothers them, pfft.

These guys are stuck in a war, filled with people wanting to kill them, not knowing if they will die in the next moment. They live to see family/kids/wife, ect.. outside of that they have no reason to live - and most other than to see familiy, would rather die. The mental level changes once rounds come flying by.

So shooting a dog, isn't really something they give fucks about.
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Love that justification mate.

Hey if were going to kill we might as well kill everything right ?!
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Love that justification mate.

Hey if were going to kill we might as well kill everything right ?!
Glad you understand.
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Love that justification mate.

Hey if were going to kill we might as well kill everything right ?!
No, but you can feel disgusted once you spent 1.5 years in the field and your perception of life/god, love.. changes.

This reason, is exactly why the media is kept out of the war. And it's always worse when you can see it happen. Thats why it so much easier for people to take plane bombing media coverage vs front line guts in your face coverage.

If you saw the truth, every day, day in and day out, death.. your perception on the dog would change.
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The real reason is the fact that they army doesn't have many choices whom to send. Way too many very young, mentally unstable and unexperienced guys are sent there. Few of them are really capable to withstand the extreme psychological stress and freak out.

TheDoc, there is a huge difference between accidential overreactions, a nervous trigger finger and going on a killing spee for fun. So, doing whatever necessary (from their perpective) in defense or when attacking the enemy is totally fine for me, but unnecessary cruelty is not acceptable and must have consequences or does fighting for your country and risking your life mean you are allowed to commit "minor" crimes ? What's minor and neglegtable ? From which perpective ? If you start tolerating stuff like this, you open the floodgates.
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but unnecessary cruelty is not acceptable and must have consequences or does fighting for your country and risking your life mean you are allowed to commit "minor" crimes ? What's minor and neglegtable ? From which perpective ? If you start tolerating stuff like this, you open the floodgates.
If minor crimes bother you this much, you should hate our military to the max levels.

It's a damn dog, sad it may be, but they don't care. The guy murdered a human that day, or the day before, maybe several of them. We can call it war, but it is what it is.

Once you lose your soul, life means nothing.. And unless you have pulled the trigger yourself, you have no idea what it feels like. Don't judge these guys unless you have been forced to do what they are doing.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:51 PM   #10
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Ah yes, nothing new with shooting animals during a time of war.. only a problem with people when it's a house pet they like. This is also why the media is pushed out of this war.. your every day person can't take the 'real pictures of war'... if a dog bothers them, pfft.

These guys are stuck in a war, filled with people wanting to kill them, not knowing if they will die in the next moment. They live to see family/kids/wife, ect.. outside of that they have no reason to live - and most other than to see familiy, would rather die. The mental level changes once rounds come flying by.

So shooting a dog, isn't really something they give fucks about.
I would have to disagree with you here.

What it looks like to me is a bunch of kids aged 27 or less with guns. They never hunted or learned respect for guns in their lives so now they are just an extension of the idiot they were at home.

Sad, but this is the army we are using. A bunch of low lifes with no prospects. Animal cruelty is more than just a simple action. It shows a disregard for life. That usually extends to all life. If it weren't for them being afraid of the consequences for killing innocent civilians they would certainly kill them too. Some do... they just cannot control themselves. Wich makes them no better than the terrorists they are fighting.

Sad excuse for soldiers in the United States Army if you ask me. I think they are dipshits.
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They are a tool of war and they are twisted by war. This may lead them to do shit that is just plain stupid. Like launching a grenade into a herd of sheep from a moving vehicle. They are there to kill and we shouldn't judge them for it. I'm sorry if this offends any ex-soldiers in the midst, but the majority of the people going off to war are young fucking retards who failed at everything else life had to offer. mixed with a few patriotic people who feel they're doing their country justice (who are still retarded). Most, if not all, of the peope i know who have been int he service are pretty laughable folk. This is pretty much the same reason I could give a shit less if any one of them gets shot square in the fucking head...
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I think we should all go down to the cafe, order some chick, bacon, and steak and talk about how evil that guy is!! Killing animals (except delicious ones) is inexcusable!!
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A bunch of low lifes with no prospects. Animal cruelty is more than just a simple action. It shows a disregard for life. That usually extends to all life.
Exactly. In the one video they clearly shoot a guy's dog right in front of him. How would you like it if some raghead was occupying your country, walked into your front yard and shot your dog in front of you and your family Then laughed with his buddies and strolled off down the street looking for some other family pet to shoot or someone's daughter to rape. It's all just for shits and giggles, right? I mean no one is gonna know what they did once they go back home right? Rape, kill, rape, kill. It's all in a day's work...
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Disturbing..the second dog was just trying to protect it's home
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Exactly. In the one video they clearly shoot a guy's dog right in front of him. How would you like it if some raghead was occupying your country, walked into your front yard and shot your dog in front of you and your family Then laughed with his buddies and strolled off down the street looking for some other family pet to shoot or someone's daughter to rape. It's all just for shits and giggles, right? I mean no one is gonna know what they did once they go back home right? Rape, kill, rape, kill. It's all in a day's work...
Give me a break. It is a dog. Shooting a family pet and raping a women are more then slightly different.

If you were rsiking your life in a war no one really gives a fuck about, I think you might have a little anger and disregard for your surroundings the animals in it. Not saying it is ok but this shit does happen.
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Give me a break. It is a dog. Shooting a family pet and raping a women are more then slightly different.
There is a huge difference, but the way from killing animals for fun to raping a woman or killing people for fun is shorter than you may think and you'd be surprised how many sociopaths/psychopaths started their "career" this way.
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What these videos may not show are these dogs trying to attack people.

And let's not forget that police officers will do the same thing to your dog at home. If they come onto your property and your dog runs towards them, that dog is dead.
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Ah yes, nothing new with shooting animals during a time of war.. only a problem with people when it's a house pet they like. This is also why the media is pushed out of this war.. your every day person can't take the 'real pictures of war'... if a dog bothers them, pfft.

These guys are stuck in a war, filled with people wanting to kill them, not knowing if they will die in the next moment. They live to see family/kids/wife, ect.. outside of that they have no reason to live - and most other than to see familiy, would rather die. The mental level changes once rounds come flying by.

So shooting a dog, isn't really something they give fucks about.
You're mistaken. Your/a soldier's perception of reality may have changed, but that doesn't suddenly make his perception reality. It even has nothing to do with it.
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What these videos may not show are these dogs trying to attack people.
Of all the videos only one I saw could have had something to do with a dog attack, but it sure didn't seem that way. I'm sure that herd of sheep trotting along the ditch was about to take out that whole truckload of soldiers too.

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And let's not forget that police officers will do the same thing to your dog at home. If they come onto your property and your dog runs towards them, that dog is dead.
And lets also not forget that if a police dog comes at you and you kill it, you just murdered an officer of the law. Say goodbye to ife in the free world...
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Give me a break. It is a dog. Shooting a family pet and raping a women are more then slightly different.

If you were rsiking your life in a war no one really gives a fuck about, I think you might have a little anger and disregard for your surroundings the animals in it. Not saying it is ok but this shit does happen.
You are over simplifying the problem.

The problem is that when you say this is ok it allows someone to be ok with it. Then the human mind moves on to the next thing. Which is why we all drive cars and use light bulbs. Because we moved on from horses and candles.

Life is a progression and this is the first step to human atrocities.

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Violent acts toward animals have long been recognized as indicators of a dangerous psychopathy that does not confine itself to animals. ?Anyone who has accustomed himself to regard the life of any living creature as worthless is in danger of arriving also at the idea of worthless human lives,? wrote humanitarian Dr. Albert Schweitzer. ?Murderers ... very often start out by killing and torturing animals as kids,? according to Robert K. Ressler, who developed profiles of serial killers for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Studies have now convinced sociologists, lawmakers, and the courts that acts of cruelty toward animals deserve our attention. They can be the first sign of a violent pathology that includes human victims.

Animal abuse is not just the result of a minor personality flaw in the abuser but rather a symptom of a deep mental disturbance which stems from a lack of compassion or empathy for the victim. This mentality, in which the victim is seen as an object with no feeling or value, has been termed ?objectification?, and is usually learned during childhood by repeatedly observing violence toward the helpless. Sometimes, the child himself may be the victim of objectification, or the message may be more subtle through the cruel treatment of a family pet. As a result, animals are often the early targets of children as they begin to show this learned objectification; ironically, these animals offer unconditional love and acceptance. Research in psychology and criminology shows that people who commit acts of cruelty toward animals don?t stop there; many of them move on to their fellow humans.

The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appear in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders.

A study conducted by Northeastern University and the Massachusetts SPCA found that people who abuse animals are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against humans. The majority of inmates scheduled to be executed for murder at California?s San Quentin penitentiary ?practiced? their crimes on animals, according to the warden.
Your argument reminds me of the current racial tensions in Los Angeles.

One of the black gang members interviewed about the recent slayings of black youth by mexican gang members said this, "If you let your kids go out wearing pants two sizes too big and corn rolls in their hair you are asking for what happens to them when they are mistaken for real gang members."

I thought to myself.. Fuck... I wish I knew where that guy lived... I'd go over and share some 40's with him.
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Disturbing..the second dog was just trying to protect it's home
Exactly... and we wonder why the rest of the world hates us?

Because we tell them.. ohh.. it is just a dog.. get over it!

Shit.. If they did it to your dog you'd hate them for it too.
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If minor crimes bother you this much, you should hate our military to the max levels.

It's a damn dog, sad it may be, but they don't care. The guy murdered a human that day, or the day before, maybe several of them. We can call it war, but it is what it is.

Once you lose your soul, life means nothing.. And unless you have pulled the trigger yourself, you have no idea what it feels like. Don't judge these guys unless you have been forced to do what they are doing.
the guys doing these kind of things to animals (animals dont even know what the fuck money, war and oil is) dont do that becuase they all of a sudden went crazy; they were severely mentally ill to begin with. The war just triggered their mental illness and made it worse, but these people were NOT normal to begin with.

And as a side note, i think its worse to throw a puppy off a cliff than shooting your fellow human being in the face who is your enemy in a war. Two completely different things.
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Ah yes, nothing new with shooting animals during a time of war.. only a problem with people when it's a house pet they like. This is also why the media is pushed out of this war.. your every day person can't take the 'real pictures of war'... if a dog bothers them, pfft.

These guys are stuck in a war, filled with people wanting to kill them, not knowing if they will die in the next moment. They live to see family/kids/wife, ect.. outside of that they have no reason to live - and most other than to see familiy, would rather die. The mental level changes once rounds come flying by.

So shooting a dog, isn't really something they give fucks about.
To me this just reinforces why it's important you only use WAR as a means to DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY, rather than going on economic imperial crusades. Then most Americans just defend their country's actions, even if they don't believe in what their country is doing!
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"If you let your kids go out wearing pants two sizes too big and corn rolls in their hair you are asking for what happens to them when they are mistaken for real gang members."
Corn rolls? :P
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It shows a disregard for life. That usually extends to all life. If it weren't for them being afraid of the consequences for killing innocent civilians they would certainly kill them too. Some do... they just cannot control themselves. Wich makes them no better than the terrorists they are fighting.
V_RocKs, I don't agree with what they did, at all. I'm sure several have killed innocent civilians, it's when you gun them down for no reason you will have consequences.

Killing a dog, I wouldn't really say that puts them on the same playing field as terrorist who blow themselves up and tries to kill as many people along with them.


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Which reality is this? Yours or mine? as we chill at home, in a warm house, tv on, maybe eating popcorn and having a beer. Or.. is it their reality, the one that has them on 5 hours of hard sleep for months straight, getting shot at every few days, maybe had a few friends die, and it just being non-stop... and hell.

Is this the reality that says, I could die any second? or the one that says, my popcorn is ready?


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The war just triggered their mental illness and made it worse, but these people were NOT normal to begin with.

And as a side note, i think its worse to throw a puppy off a cliff than shooting your fellow human being in the face who is your enemy in a war. Two completely different things.
You can call it mental illness if you want, it's different but close enough.

Maybe we are looking at a couple of front line boys, hell that dog could be food by dark if no one else drags it off to eat it first, like the owners.

I thought the Puppy was dead before it was tossed?


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To me this just reinforces why it's important you only use WAR as a means to DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY, rather than going on economic imperial crusades. Then most Americans just defend their country's actions, even if they don't believe in what their country is doing!
I couldn't agree more...

The military personal volunteer for service, but they are forced into most duties. The rest of the Americans, well.. Paris and Britney will be on at 6 and I will let ya know about the war afterwards.
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Most soldiers are just monkeys with guns with IQ's to match.

I cannot believe this kind of sadistic behaviour surprises anyone. Somehow this particular video got leaked by someone... can you imagine the sort of shit that is happening over there that hasn't been videotaped?
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can you imagine the sort of shit that is happening over there that hasn't been videotaped?
yes... I can... And that's why I don't even want to see any of this new batch of videos that is being posted around. my imagination is enough.
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I thought the Puppy was dead before it was tossed?
heh no that was just the propaganda machine... it has pulled in paws when hes lift up (try to make a dead puppy do that lol), and it squeeks while flying thru the air, by looking at the vid there's no doubt whatsover that its alive... not to mention it was confirmed by the guys superiors.
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You would think being over there, they would have more respect for all living things and be sick of the killing..at least a mentally stable person would. Our military thrives on sick fucks like these guys and makes them into killing machines...ones I do not want living anywhere near me.
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