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  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #31
    Originally posted by GatorB
    Shut up fag. If you don't want people paying $4 for a trial and uploading all your shit stop offering trials and make them pay for a monthly membership. I can guarantee you that some guy paying for a trial and seeing all your shit is DRMed is one way to guarantee he WON'T re-bill. So WTF is the point of having a trial?
    Ya we dont offer trials.... Love people in the DRM old school box though. Again there is more than one way this can be done.

    Dont you have a klu klux klan forum to post on or something?

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    • tony299
      lurker
      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #32
      Sticky if you have this magic plan why not spit it out and help the industry instead of being a annoyance?

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      • GatorB
        The Demon & 12clicks
        • Oct 2001
        • 18208

        #33
        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
        Ya we dont offer trials.... Love people in the DRM old school box though. Again there is more than one way this can be done.
        Once again ANY DRM scheme you have can be broken. Also are you saying your customers are thieves? Is that the way you treat them? This industry you lead lead the other media now it seem we wnat to go backwards. How many years did it take the music industry to finally learn that DRM DOES NOT WORK and alienates your customers? YOU are the one with backward thinking.

        Dont you have a klu klux klan forum to post on or something?
        Ok YOU live in Tennessee and you're talking me about the KKK?
        Last edited by GatorB; 03-06-2008, 07:02 AM.

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        • GatorB
          The Demon & 12clicks
          • Oct 2001
          • 18208

          #34
          double post
          Last edited by GatorB; 03-06-2008, 07:02 AM.

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          • stickyfingerz
            Doin fine
            • Oct 2005
            • 24984

            #35
            Originally posted by tony404
            Sticky if you have this magic plan why not spit it out and help the industry instead of being a annoyance?
            Ive spit it out several times. If I were a programmer or had the resources to work on it I would. Let me ask you Tony is it better to keep your money in a safe or on the front lawn? How much is your content worth to you?

            Didnt you used to work the non online side of adult? Would you let people walk out of the store with merchandise and then hope to goto their houses at some point and ask them to stop using it? Or did you make sure things didnt go out the door unpaid? Did people get in free at strip clubs or peep shows? Or did you make them pay? How in the world do not see this? Who is working right now on customer friendly ways to stop theft? Ive mentioned a few ways that may be possible. Video or pictures that are downloaded automatically get the members IP embedded in the vid and pics, or overlayed as a watermark. If IPs are too intrusive and privacy restrictive why not a code that can be crosschecked to see what IP made the download.

            Sure people can cover a watermark up. Why not make it hard to see and move around on the screen every few minutes. Unobtrusively though. Embed the same code into the video itself so it shows up in meta data. So now if it is found later on a tube site or torrent site that persons name gets put on a blacklist with the processors. They can no longer buy porn. Make a TOS they sign when they signup. If they are caught distributing content we have the right to legally go after them and they will be blackballed. Now you can go after the consumer for copyright infringement. You can show with records that person A was a member and now this video or image has been infringed upon. Now you have proof.

            Are you telling me no one could do this? There now the consumer can stay in the relatively same biz model we are stuck in, but yet we have legal grounds to start suing people for infringement.

            Someone tell me why it cant be done?

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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #36
              Originally posted by GatorB
              Once again ANY DRM scheme you have can be broken. Also are you saying your customers are thieves? Is that the way you treat them? This industry you lead lead the other media now it seem we wnat to go backwards. How many years did it take the music industry to finally learn that DRM DOES NOT WORK and alienates your customers? YOU are the one with backward thinking.



              Ok YOU live in Tennessee and you're talking me about the KKK?
              Ya I live in Nashville you Live in Knoxville area.. nuff said there lol. Plus I wasnt born here hoss.

              So how do you think people are getting content from members areas if its not the customers? lmao Yes there are pw traders. Members have the right to download so its not theft then, its when they upload it without permission to do so. Duh.

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              • Brujah
                Beer Money Baron
                • Jan 2001
                • 22157

                #37
                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                Ive spit it out several times. If I were a programmer or had the resources to work on it I would.
                Try Ray Morris? He created the Strongbox program and might be interested in whatever you had in mind to protect content too.

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                • GatorB
                  The Demon & 12clicks
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 18208

                  #38
                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                  Ya I live in Nashville you Live in Knoxville area.. nuff said there lol. Plus I wasnt born here hoss.
                  I don't live anywhere near Knoxville. I wasn't born and raised here either idiot. I grew up near Chicago and at 13 moved to Florida and lived in the Tampa/Sarasota area for 11 years. nice try.

                  So how do you think people are getting content from members areas if its not the customers? lmao Yes there are pw traders. Members have the right to download so its not theft then, its when they upload it without permission to do so. Duh.

                  Random House Audio abandons audiobook DRM

                  Random House Audio -- a division of Bertelsmann, one of the largest publishing conglomerates in the world -- has announced that it will now allow its audiobooks to be sold without DRM by all of its online retailers. In the announcement, Random House notes that they've been running a DRM-free audiobook program with eMusic for months, and that none of the pirate editions of their audiobooks online came from those DRM-free editions; rather, they've come from DRM'ed editions that were cracked, and from ripped CDs.

                  http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/21...e-audio-a.html

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                  • stickyfingerz
                    Doin fine
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24984

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brujah
                    Try Ray Morris? He created the Strongbox program and might be interested in whatever you had in mind to protect content too.
                    Overview is above for anyone to use. Ive had a few ideas one is above. Personally I think the way netflix, vonage, even the sites like fox.com and nbc.com etc is going to be where we end up. Videobox is doing it for their instant play movies. Only way to get the vids would be screen capturing. My point is get out of the "it was already tried and failed" attitude and lets all come together to find a solution that might work.

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                    • stickyfingerz
                      Doin fine
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 24984

                      #40
                      Originally posted by GatorB
                      I don't live anywhere near Knoxville. I wasn't born and raised here either idiot. I grew up near Chicago and at 13 moved to Florida and lived in the Tampa/Sarasota area for 11 years. nice try.




                      Random House Audio abandons audiobook DRM

                      Random House Audio -- a division of Bertelsmann, one of the largest publishing conglomerates in the world -- has announced that it will now allow its audiobooks to be sold without DRM by all of its online retailers. In the announcement, Random House notes that they've been running a DRM-free audiobook program with eMusic for months, and that none of the pirate editions of their audiobooks online came from those DRM-free editions; rather, they've come from DRM'ed editions that were cracked, and from ripped CDs.

                      http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/21...e-audio-a.html
                      Well shit its a good thing we arent selling audio books then huh?

                      So you are telling me you DO NOT live in East TN?

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                      • brand0n
                        been very busy
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 26983

                        #41
                        if i said
                        whitepower!

                        would that add or subtract from this thread?
                        want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                        • stickyfingerz
                          Doin fine
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 24984

                          #42
                          Originally posted by brand0n
                          if i said
                          whitepower!

                          would that add or subtract from this thread?
                          Hmm Im not sure. Give it a go. lol

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                          • GatorB
                            The Demon & 12clicks
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 18208

                            #43
                            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                            Well shit its a good thing we arent selling audio books then huh?
                            If you can't see the connection you're too obtuse to even discuss this issue with. Good luck with alientating PAYING customers and failing in you attempt to stop piracy.

                            By the way I find it ironic that YOU of all people are trying to stop content from being stolen.

                            So you are telling me you DO NOT live in East TN?
                            No I don't. I'm not sure where you got that from. Doesn't matter what part of Tenn I live. It's all full of ignornat inbred rednecks. So attemptimg to make fun of where I live is moot because I rip this shithole every fucking day.

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                            • stickyfingerz
                              Doin fine
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24984

                              #44
                              Originally posted by GatorB
                              If you can't see the connection you're too obtuse to even discuss this issue with. Good luck with alientating PAYING customers and failing in you attempt to stop piracy.

                              By the way I find it ironic that YOU of all people are trying to stop content from being stolen.



                              No I don't. I'm not sure where you got that from. Doesn't matter what part of Tenn I live. It's all full of ignornat inbred rednecks. So attemptimg to make fun of where I live is moot because I rip this shithole every fucking day.
                              Soon as you get your brain away from previous versions of securing content, and people start thinking out of the box. For instance read my post above. If it cant be done tell me why. Otherwise dont bother replying with your outdated thinking.

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                              • Achmed
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1447

                                #45
                                This guy less smart than camel.
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