Sortie, I hope you didn't take the backfire quote as a personal retort.

The inference was a double irony for any complacent individuals, just incase anyone / everyone else missed it.

Watching self-glorified engineers spank their own meat in on an adult message board in the name of "their practice" sucks. Go back to slashdot, you fucktards.

I find it funny someone posts "if someone can't (doesn't) program in perl or c"... blah blah blah. WTF? Does someone who posts something like that not respect some javascript? How about a savage combination of HTML and CSS that's easily integrated into a template system that works across browsers and is pretty much plug-n'-play?

Sanitizing database inputs (prepared statements) is necessary regardless of what you code / script in. Ripping on people's abilities because they don't code in some language is retarded.

*** Edit:
I have no edit.
Just my opinion.

Hey, I didn't say anyting about javascript or CSS or HTML,
But it's just a fact that those things don't have jack shit to do with backend
programming to run a website.

It's "fluff" for the front end. PHP was design to handle "fluff" to the frontend
with a little extra data retrieval functions.

The guy who wrote PHP was trying to make an easier way to show his
resume. :1orglaugh He wasn't making a search engine.

It's fucking fluff and Yahoo or google aint ever going to be developed as
a php application. They might make a few cool pages with it but that's it.

GFY is done in PHP and mySQL. So...how many times did you have to click to get this fucking page to load. :1orglaugh

I can see the sql tables wobbling and straining everytime I click this site.
Thank god GFY isn't serving up video too. This shit would be dead already.

Don't mind me much. I like talking shit so don't be offended.

I agree with you about the ones running the script that acted like the
orignal poster was an idiot; but he acted like an idiot so it went both ways.

Like I said, the usual webmaster antics, semantics and disputes.

Point being, the quality in many of these products leaves MUCH to be desired.

Furthermore, without being too petty, most of these abominations do come from a certain demographic. Choose to ignore at your own despair.

I learned perl way before I learned PHP. When I was learning web programming it was AFTER the usual rounds of Visual Basic and later C.

I will admit that one of the biggest reasons why I dropped perl right about the time PHP4 came out is because of how EASY it is to do about anything you can think of.

What I use perl for:
+ Many server side tools, it is simply more powerfull than PHP

What does PHP have a huge edge in?
1) Rapid development
2) Handles high traffic sites a LOT better than perl, there is simply no comparison. As a Server Side language for high traffic sites there is simply no comparison!
3) Easy to find a programmer for mods
4) Anything using a DB such as MySQL perl's DBI is a bad joke.

When developing a script if you can make basically every page a flatfile then by all means perl is a viable option. but of course this is basically comparing SHTML pages using SSI's to a normal .php page just using include('/path/to/file');

When developing scripts that you know will take a LOT of CPU power and you don't need to have many users perl is better.

You're retarded if you use a blanket statement like PHP is better or Perl is better or even more retarded if you say that a PHP programmer only uses it because he can't learn PERL or C.

Coming from somebody who has completely made his living off of the web for 10 years and been a programmer and server builder/administrator this whole time too I bet that sortie isn't smart enough to make even a basic tube script in PHP/MySQL.

THIS IS A CHALLENGE, you think you're smart, I am preparing to release a free tube script which I did 90% of it in a single day... Make something at least as good as that by time I release mine and hell even sell it for $5 or give it away and you'll have nothing but respect from me and plenty of others if you put your time/money where that bigass mouth of yours is.

:1orglaugh

You quit PERL because you suck at at thinking.

You thought PHP would make things easy for you but it only made things
easy for hackers and that says all that needs to be said about your thinking.

Good luck patching your shit while I'm at the bar fucking chicks. :1orglaugh

fat bar skanks aren't even fun.... any of the ones that will fuck AT the bar I'd pass on...

Your script sales won't buy the ladies many drinks thats for sure ;) I honestly don't think I've seen a single person say they've bought your script and are actually HAPPY with it LMAO massive numbers of happy customers are about all that matter.

Not a programmer, but I would suggest that PHP is more lucrative than PERL these days.

I wish I could find a decent PERL programmer.

That's kinda funny you think like that. Do you know what PHP is coded in?? Take a wild guess.

It's kind of funny that I already posted that PHP is a CGI script written
in C but you didn't bother to read that and think you are making a point.

%00;ls -la

Nobody wants to program for you because you talk too much shit.

Lots of people are looking for PHP programmers, that is true.
But the reason they are looking is beacause they are cheaper than
PERL or C programmers.

And they get what they pay for.

Just for the record.

TEVS has been fixed of this security issue. We're in the process of finishing the last of the domains using TEVS -- which atm is over 400 domains.

open(A,"<.......

open(A,">.......

I started ignoring teksonline threads after he accused 2bet.com of being rigged because I knocked him out of a tournament...

dozey is not only well spoken, he may possibly be psychic as well.
Enough said?

Gawd.. the Very Hungry Caterpillar.. haven't seen that in a few decades.

Just wondering if it was is such a shitty script why you bought multiple licenses of it?

You are more clueless than I gave you credit for.

And rewrite the entire admin area too. I do not believe he's purchase any license(s) at all. He said in a previous thread that he blocks my site from seeing his IP (which we don't do anyway) so what is he hiding?

Maybe the fact that he stole the script and is using it without a license.

hey teks can you contact me pls? thx

Hes banned

i wasnt asking him to post here, contact me on icq... but i dont need to speak to him anymore since im no longer interested in the security problems with TEVS.

Bubba ya have NO idea lol I bought his shit script even paid him more money for help with the damn thing and when the shit really hit the fan he TOLD ME TO go and BUY TEVS LOL I shit you not! When the guys at jupiter says his script is what's having the server crash then something is wrong, it was great script when the traffic was below 1k every 5 mins more like 300 hits every five mins the script worked so so still a cpu hog, But when you push real traffic if bogs the server down!! Anyone buys that dudes script better hope they dont get more then 1k of traffic at a time! It's funny when ever i see someone using his script i think damn poor fool! :pimp

Sad to say but I bought the same script and I also had problems with it bogging down my server at Phatservers... I just gave up on it :(

You abused my support by having me find problems with your server.
You accused the script of sending spam, I proved you were wrong.

I have about 50 emails from you in a period of 3 weeks that I helped you and not a single one of your emails resulted in a fix to the script.
Everyone of your emails was a paraniod episode of your own incompetence
and after I help you resolved you personal problems you volunteered to
send me extra money for the support.

I declined your offer to do a custom job for you for a pay per view system because you are a problem customer.

I gave you hundreds of dollars of free support for issues totaly non-related to
the script.

After you asked me if I could add extra features to the script that nonone
else wanted I decided that maybe this script didn't do what you wanted
and I gave you the name of another script you could try which was TEVS.

You are simply angry because I didn't provide you with features that I
never promissed and I could not serve as your personal webmaster.

If you seriously knew that...and know what it really means, you would have dropped perl long ago and would only use it now for your own server admin needs. Plain and simple. Give PHP a shot, you will be very glad that you did.

That comment wasn't to make you look stupid or anything. Take a peek at other threads where I defended you. Calm down.

I'm running the script on phatservers right now my friend.

I issued serveral updates that took out BETA traps after it was out of
BETA and that makes the script run faster. Maybe you didn't do the
upgrades or maybe you don't have enough power on your server.

You can also disable "image morphing" and speed the script up.
But you didn't ask me about that.

Disabling image morphing means you can't change thumb size on the fly
and must copy all thumbs to every domain. So you trade server space
for more speed.

But, if your server is not overloaded on virtual hosting then image morphing
is not going to slow it down.

He does a million hits a day.
But he dosen't tweak his server and instead ask me to tweak the script.
He goes from sites with static content to one where he's serving the
video himself and using dynamic pages and expects the same cpu load.
No way.

> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:20 AM
>From: "knockboots"
>To: <sortie>

>> between 3 of my servers I do well over 1million a day in traffic.. the
> serer
>> that pimpingporn is on is a play server for crap like galleries etc.. my
>> paysites and stores are on mangaged dedicated servers so ya can be right
> it
>> could be the server is just chit so im putting it on one of my top
>> servers
>> over at jupiter once transfer is done how much will u charge to set that
>> script up again sir?
>> Thanks for your time


----- Original Message -----
From: "knockboots" <knockboot>
To: <sortie>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: tubecgi


> wow man I guess I have been bugging you too much eh? Sorry but I never said
> I didn't like your script just needed help to tweak it so it can handle more
> traffic.. money isnt a issue didnt mean to get on your bad side at all! I
> guess I grew too fond of your support and abused it like I said never said I
> did not like you or your script, so sorry for being too dumb when it comes
> to this type of stuff.
> Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sortie>
> To: <knockboots>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:17 PM
> Subject: tubecgi
>
>
>> If you are not happy with the script then there are other options
>> available.
>>
>> Try this one :
>>
>> http://www.bigdotmedia.com/
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>



Here's what my support email looks like.
I blanked out the emails from other support customers.

http://tubecgi.com/mailshot.jpg

Damn, file for harassment :p

[QUOTE=sortie;13884107]He does a million hits a day.
But he dosen't tweak his server and instead ask me to tweak the script.
He goes from sites with static content to one where he's serving the
video himself and using dynamic pages and expects the same cpu load.
No way.

Daymn dude pick and choose the emails why don't you, You gave 100's of $$ for support but for got to say I gave you over $100.00 for your shit script and your shit support!

"He does a million hits a day."
Is this too hard for you to belive? Sad tevs never bogged my server down and Ole dean knows how much traffic I sent to that script!
*But he dosen't tweak his server* You're right with the play server for galleries and shit that isnt on jupiters system, Thats why I put your shit ass script over on Jupiter! Jupiter support and tech's tweaks and runs the server just fine! TEVS NEVER HAS BOGGED DOWN THE SERVER"He goes from sites with static content" Then I went back and same thing! YOUR SCRIPT IS SHIT IT SUCKS and you showing customers personal emials really shows they type of person you really are!

All them email
If I was such a problem customer as you say I was I can almost bet I would have the same out put with ole say tevs/Dean But ya know what I DONT HAVE TO RUN TO HIM EVERY 5 fucking min's to find out why his script has done this and done that! You sad little boi!

Damn posting customers personal info um whats next from you? I was going to charge back since your shit sucked so much, then I decided not too, well um :1orglaugh

Ps I aint the only one that has had or had problems with your shit script! :pimp

hahah spot the aussies in the thread :D

Hey dude you tell those fuckers, and I owe you a template and some work so hit me up.