50 tossed puppies...

poor little bisquit..makes me want to toss that fucker over the cliff .

It's the same for cops and other things though. I think the honorable military guys should be upset with the <1% of the guys that do shit like this, not with critics.

Much like cops, military guys don't get in trouble for anything really and that perception can play down to civilians. You see a stunt like this and know he won't get in any trouble for it. If the military punished people for their actions, people would not be focusing on it as much. But most of us know nothing will happen to these guys.

As an ex U.S. Army officer, I feel qualified to speak on the subject.

But I'm sure some Canadian leftist retard who never spent a day in the military knows more.....

I'm outraged at all such atrocities. People that are fucktards need to be called out on being fucktards.

In this case: the fucker threw an innocent puppy off a cliff. The fact that he's representing me and my loved ones in this country and that my tax dollars (or, at least, the idea that I'll pay taxes for the next 50 years to pay back the debt the war's driving us into) are paying his salary only compounds the issue - and gives me a bit of personal involvement.

It wasn't their choice to go to war. The government decides that.

You have less say. You traded money for your family, so other familes could suffer.

You army guys always feel so high and mighty, like you've done some great service to mankind.

You're not 'fighting' for the world, you're fighting for your 'country' which by all accounts has been warmongering. Maybe you haven't seen a newspaper in the last 8 years though.

They joined the army to.... clean their gun?

If the US was *really* attacked by another country, and there was a real war that needed help, I would honestly enlist to help.

I haven't heard of any states being lost to the rebels though! :)

And what have you done for mankind.... expect sitting on your fat ass and bitching about something you know nothing about?

How does that work anyways, if you're in the Army and they go to some stupid war that you don't believe in, do you go to jail if you refuse to go? Or is it just some financial hardships through loss of your job?

I've lived peacefully. :winkwink:

Imagine if more people did it!

if his commanding officer sees that video, he'll be facing a court martial

That is correct...or some other form of punishment.

You go to jail.

In some, generally more pressing, cases, your commanding officer is allowed to kill you if you refuse to follow an order.

That's kinda standard for armed services the world-over, and seems practical enough. Dissension during battle isn't really a viable option. :2 cents:

I am in no way a US hater. What that guy did was just plain wrong and there was no need for him to do that. I would have said exactly the same thing if it was a British soldier throwing a puppy of a cliff, and as you said most USA soldiers are not like this idiot on the clip.

I'd say you reached your maximum level of capability. Stick with that.

So are you trying to defend what he did by using the "why are you hating on the USA" excuse?

This has NOTHING to do with the USA. It has to do with 1 person, being a complete fucking tool and needing to be punished for it. This has absolutely nothing to do with inter nation squabbles or issues.
I am not from the USA and the only thing I am upset about is what he did and how that reflects on the group of people he is with (them letting him do it). I am not generalizing the entire USA by this video though, so get off your defensive horse and help bring this idiot to justice.

funny how people can get so bent out of shape with an animal being killed... and care so little about people being killed.

if you are outraged at this video and not equally outraged about all the other men, women and children dying daily...then your not only a hypocrite, but you are just as disturbed as the soldier himself.

:2 cents:

It is not just the animal dying. It is the fact they did it for "fun". Do you want this guy around your family members? It is common for serial killers to have tortured animals before moving on to humans.

Also, 97% of people on this earth think whatever the elites want them to think. So to try to stop all wars is nearly futile. The slope-heads are always going to be there defending their governments no matter how obviously criminal the war is. The masses are just plain stupid and claim you are being unpatriotic for being anti war.

However this was a domesticated animal. These animals have been known to save lives of people while giving up their own. There is no reason to hurt them let alone throw a puppy off a cliff just for giggles.

Many people join the army because they need to. They are either too poor to afford college or are stuck in a bad neighborhood with no way out. Recruitment stations are always setup in poor neighborhoods and they target young kids who are desperate.

While I'm sure there are kids who join thinking they'll get to shoot stuff up, the majority joined for other reasons. I almost joined the National Guard before college because I needed money to go. If I didn't get a scholarship, I'd have probably been forced to enlist. Most of these people in the military would rather be home with their families than off in a desert being shot at.

I have no idea how long ago this video came out but I have been on the phone with several animal rescue/animal rights people and none of them had seen it untill now.

Outrage is building and these 2 fucks will be outed. This will follow them for the rest of their lives I promise you.

Ron if you are a military guy,you should more upset than all of us. He disgraces the uniform that others wear with pride.

so killing children is ok if you have a decent reason?

i fail to see the difference other than people struggle to rationalize their reaction.

oh... the "everyone is stupid" defense.

well.. thats certainly a good one for anyone who can't form a solid, well reasoned argument.

being domesticated makes it more objectionable?

i agree.. there is no good reason for it.



over a dozen childred died today in Gaza...anyone care? no.
tonight, a couple dozen little girls will be raped and murdered in Darfur? anyone have a problem with it? nope.

oh... a puppy died.. lets kill that fucker.



its just weird thats all.

That's some fucked up shit.

Well I meant before you left.. Like you signed up for the army during peace times, war is announced, do you have no options at this point if you don't believe in the war? Who wants to kill innocent people?

Those are all awful but no one made home movies of it like they did with the puppy and put it up on the net because they thought it was cute.

I don't know. It seems in this war that they are trying to sweep this stuff under the rug. I don't think they would want to bring attention to this. They aren't even telling honored servicemen's families the truth about how their family member died (Pat Tillman).

Why you would take time out of your limited time here on earth to come into a thread about some sick fuck killing a puppy to argue with people expressing saddness and outrage is beyond me.

Instead of responding to each of your points I am going to spend my time contacting more people in the hopes of finding their names. :thumbsup

What a dick. That was just fucking cruelness.

Some weed smokers move on to heroin and other hard drugs, so should everyone who smokes weed be treated as a possible crack head?

Its sad the dog was killed, but its not a big deal. I guess everybody here are vegetarians and dont eat meat, because that meat on your plate suffered its whole life until it was killled, that little puppy at least went quick.

What the fuck.

I truly hope that was fake.

He is a disgrace, as a military guy and a human being. No argument there from me. My point was, that when bad behavior is displayed for all to see, it seems that the American and... Israeli Army are the ONLY bad guys.

There is so much cruelty going on all round the world. If you have ever been to the website nothingtoxic.com You will see clips of Russian soldiers having thier throats cut and all sort of other nasty shit that is happening all around us but everybody seems to turn a blind eye to it as it is "war" The world is full of sick assholes who have no regard for human life or who think nothing of blowing up kids or killing domesticated animals for the fun of it. We live in a sad cruel world with a lot of sick people and thats the sad truth of us so called "humans" This US soldier is just one of that group

So you're saying that whenever bad behaviour is displayed, it's always Americans and Israeli's?

Pretty accurate I'd say! We're starting to get along, you and me. :winkwink:

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You have a good point.

Speaking for myself I do not eat meat from factory farms. I buy eggs from a small farm where the chickens have better lives and eat more healthy than the average GFYer.

I don't even buy milk in the store. I buy it from a small farm where the goats must think they are in heaven.

Even though I eat this way for moral reasons it has an added benefit. Ask Porno Dan how old he thought I was when he met me the other night. It was nowhere near my real age.

If half the self absorbed people on this earth just realize that eating organic foods and meat/eggs/dairy from non-factory farms would make them look 10 years younger then their selfishness would actually do some good for a change.

People who use mentally disabled people for suicide missions are fucking assholes. People who throw puppies off of cliffs are also asssholes. so there you go, I had something to say.

Poor puppy :(

Karma can be a bitch. Remember that always.

some people call it "light in the mind" ...

no shit

and besides.. what would be the alternative for the puppy? Starve to death?

That was fucking disturbing.

There's no comparison at all. People eat meat to sustain their own health and their existence but people generally don't take delight in knowing that the poor cow or chicken or tuna fish or turkey suffered and died. It's just a sober reality, that we are omnivorous and we buy the end products of the animals to cook and consume without thinking much about the fact that that piece of meat used to be part of an animal with feelings.

This solder on the other hand didn't kill that puppy to eat it. He broke discipline and surely violated the codes of military justice by acting like a maniac just to entertain himself and some friends on the internet. He is supposed to be a professional and do his job, and get his recreation in a healthy manner, not go around torturing helpless animals for kicks.

good for you.. seriously. you are doing more than all the others who purport to "care" are doing.

again... its not that i think its wrong to throw a puppy off a cliff... its just odd that killing an animal can inspire such outrage and killing women and children is a non event.

i don't really get this about people. 90% of people just feign outrage to feel better about themselves for a few moments and give themselves a pat on the back and say "see, i'm a good person" - maybe thats all it is. if people really "cared" they would do something. if people care more about a dog than people, then they need their heads checked.

i believe that most people are totally insincere when they express outrage. not you... you apparently are taking a few moments to actually do something. everyone else won't... they will just make stupid remarks about how the guy deserves to die (as if that make any sense or is thinking thats any different than the soldiers)... then everyone goes back to work.

I agree. I hope that fuck comes back in a body bag.

:winkwink:If the puppy was injured or would have starved to death then I could see how shooting him would be the humane thing to do since they are in a warzone. But to make a video of you and your friends throwing a puppy off a cliff while laughing is a different story. Plus, I doubt the puppy died instantly. He may have just been left there to slowly die.

I hope he comes back to a community who shuns him. :thumbsup

That is fucked.

that would be a "good killing"?

or whats the rule?

killing someone is ok when a puppy is involved?

Another ruthless killer trained by Uncle Sam.:2 cents:

Karma is a bitch. A sniper won't miss his fucking head.:321GFY

What he did to the puppy was fucked up. I have had many pups/dogs over the years and they have all been a big part of my life.

However, it seems as if the majority of the time the level of outrage in these type of situations is based on how cute the animal is and not really that it is an animal. What if he threw a raccoon or a skunk over the edge?

I would imagine the outrage wouldn't nearly be the same.

What he did was fucked up and wrong. I just think sometimes people have to be a little more objective when looking at things like this. The guy is still a mental case and clearly unstable.

:2 cents:

Can't agree with you more. I would have accidently shot this guy's knees out if I was there. I have tons of respect for our soldiers but there are bad seeds everywhere.