I know you guys have been friends for a long time but dating for not that long. I think the best way to look at this is if he is lying and hiding things this early in the relationship what is going to happen later on. This is his type of personality. I mean if he felt that he could trust you he would have told you all this right from the get go. So this to me sounds like he has some trust issues. Either that or he still likes his ex and wants to keep her on the side and find out what he really wants you or her. Either way my advice to you would be to run for the hills. If she didn't know about you, how do you know there isn't another woman out there that neither of you know about. Or in the future will not know about?

Follow the advice I have always followed from my pops....

The heartache only lasts till the next piece of ass!

You are too good for bullshit like that. No one man or women should put up with bullshit like that. And if you do you are going to give him a signal that he can fuck up and just say he is sorry and come scrambling back to you and you will be ok with it. Too many women do this and then the guy just takes advantage of them and then they give most nice MEN a bad name.

1 on 1 means that if your SO is on a work trip for a week you can't do anything but whack it.. boring. or if she's bitchy for some reason you can't solve/help with.. you can't go out and relax with someone else. i'm not saying i expect perfection from a gf but if she's having a rough week and isn't so interested in sex, why should i suffer? :)

So your bf is an insecure dope who lies. :P If I based all women on one of my ex's I'd be depopulating Connecticut right now of all females with a machine gun.

Dump him. If you let him act like this, he'll keep doing it. Someone already said, people treat you like you allow them to treat you. If you let him get all possessive and jealous and controlling, he'll keep trying to do it.

He's not gonna change....Dump him and find someone else who you can actually be with and treats you well.

And until then, you owe me food for oral sex :P I haven't forgotten that. :P

I agree totally with Eric_aka_RedEyes. If my bf ever cheated which includes :sexualy talk with other ppl,kissing,touching,sex,oral etc... I would dump his ass.NP!

Fatpad think about this...I don't "bait" men thats not exactly what I meant. I mean I start dating you and we're going to get along great. So there's no need to bitch about anything...right? Right !!!

We begin to bitch when we ask you over and over to pick up your dirty clothes,when you're done with your dishes put them in the kitchen etc etc...Things like that and you men seem to think thats bitching. But if you did it the 1st time we asked then we'd have np :winkwink:

Okay, Mom. :) Can I go out and play now? :P

I don't know you but from what it sounds like you're not too happy :( If I were you I would leave him.He's lying about something big don't waste your time with him.You're worth much more :)

P.S Think of it this way if he had nothing to hide why didn't he tell you :warning

HOW TRUE !!!!!!!!!:glugglug

One easy and simple answer, you want a good boyfriend, then be a good girlfriend and so on....:)

I've always just played the game real, been straight with everyone down the line, and the people that roll with me either be the same or get the fuck from round me, been that way.

Be real or be out.

M.O.B woadie.

nah, thats not how it works. if we do it the 1st time then it's completely forgotten if we don't do it the next time. or if we do it we're asked why we don't do it all the time. usually skips that supposed "1st time". it's all hassle. why bother thinking about doing something every single time if when we forget once we'll get bitched at anyways. might as well think about other more important shit (yes, cleaning is not high on my list of importance) like what position you're gonna use tonight. ;)

"I have sooo much to offer someone"

Check. You passed. Everyone thinks they have a lot to offer.

;-)

tara where where u at ninas?

"No Fatpad you can't go outside,don't make me cross !!! :Graucho

You'd better watch yourself or I'll start givingout spankings http://www.neatspot.net/fatpad.gif

I see it like this...ALL MEN LIE.....I don't put up with it...you lie your gone plain and simple....Fuck the dumb shit...I treat a man good until he lies to me....Honesty is the KEY in any relationship along side with friendship.

And they are so dumb too to think that all woman will tolerate it.

Woman like men who will take charge and take care of them. mental and physcially....not just financially. I for one will not be with a man who is weak and mousy

I want to be the only one he sees when walking into a crowded room. And believe me woman can see it if he does not see only her.

I think the reason men lie is because they don't want to hurt us but still want to be have the power over us in thinking they got over on us. GOOD MEN will treat a woman right....and in doing so Woman in return will be faithful and dedicate her life to pleasing her man.

Good men are hard to find as are woman. I have still yet to find a man who will not lie....although the ones I have been with have been good men but they always fuck up by lieing....I HATE A LIAR...If they lie about the little things they will definitely lie about the bigger ones

shouldn't even have to ask!!!!

Men are not at fault, it's genetic!

Advancement/survival of the human race is built into our genetic code.

Just like women gravitate towards men with power/money.

They are more likely candidates for producing better offspring.

Like I said, genetic, but that doesn't mean we can't fight those impulses. It's just difficult, especially if there is alcohol involved:glugglug

*cough*princess*cough*

sorry, nature is working against you here.

Nature has done good by me thank you, lol

And princess is damn right. If I don't believe it who will?


that's the problem with why woman treat men so bad is the man does not know how to treat a GOOD woman


I AM A PRINCESS> Damn straight..And I will not let a man treat me no different

Ugh... posts like these piss me off.

I'm a complete gentleman, always have been, always will be.

I open doors for women, I always comment on how nice they look, and most of all... I ask them if they'd like it in their mouth, on their face, or on their tits... With due time to respond.

:ak47:

I believe every man should treat their girl like a princess.But it also works both ways here. You treat us like were your princess and we'll treat you like a king :thumbsup

A real man would hire a maid, and free up time better spent screwing the wife/gf.

Problem solved, bitching nullified.

I half to disagree with you there. Just because you have money and power doesn't mean you'd make good kids.
I'm not rich nor do I have any power (lol only over my home) and I have great children :)

Money and power bring nothing worth anything. Yeah they can buy women,cars,casions etc etc... But when your money is all gone what do you have left thats worth anything?

"Money can't buy you love"

Yeah...I dated some fucking loons in my days too.

matter of fact...the last 4 were loons.

Like I said earlier, people who begin their sentences with "All men....." or "All women...." are being stupid and narrowminded. Uh, how can there be any *good men* if as you say, all men lie?? Hello? Why keep looking if all men lie?


Fact is, everyone on Earth has lied at some point in their lives, but the more someone is in love with you the more honest they will be. When a person is very deeply in love they would rather die than risk losing you by being dishonest.

the very reason that most guys lie, is because they haven't found the person that is just right for them. lets face it, everyone is different, and not everyone will work out (hardly anyone does these days)... people lack good judgement and jump into relationships w/ people they hardly know and it just falls apart - which brings the cheating / lying. so instead of knowing a person for 2 weeks and THINKING you know who the person is and ya jump into a relationship, give it atleast a few months, then take it slow from there n' don't jump to any dramatic conclusions. you won't ever ...know... a person within a year's time.

So true.
There are people out there who are looking for a partner, on chatrooms, or telepersonals, or matchmakers, or even in person. They ask all sorts of questions of each other in the beginning, and I've seen people break up after two weeks simply because the other person doesn't like the same kind of music as them, or they don't like their hair color, or their eye color, or they are a little overweight, or they don't like the same foods, etc etc etc.

Fucking retarded.

It's a control thing. And ALL guys do not lie...just the ones you ladies like.

My favorite quote (which I made up all by myself): "Show me a mentally-, verbally-, and physically-abusive pathological liar and sociopath, and I'll show you a guy who has a date on Saturday night."

Men aren't the problem, women are. You gals have an unerring radar for the bad guys that leaves the nice guys home alone on Saturday night.

I guess the bad boys are better dancers.

I'm not looking anymore

But I still have my opinion on how I want to be treated. In the past I always chose men who were no good for me.

Now I'm not looking so maybe a GOOD man will happen upon me;-)

I choose to be single because ( ok let me rephrase this) MOST men treat woman like shit.

Not ALL but MOST. ALL the good ones are married. LOL

hah, i totally agree. most woman like the mysterious rebel-like male, but they mistake mystery with stupidity. i've always been so amazed on how these "badass" "i follow no rules" "i pimp every girl i want" guys get all the girls. and indeed, they are very attractive girls... but as i've stated in another post, the attractive girls are molded at an early age - cause lets face, guys wanna hit it... and the attractive girls have (in my opinion) the totally wrong idea on how they should be treated. but to clarify, thats not how it is with everyone.. it happens to "unattractive" girls as well

girls like status, security, and all the other good shit. but they lack judgement, then they get hurt... and end up posting hate threads on messageboards ;) i'm not blaming females for their relationship problems. fucking ignorant females AND males are overwhelming the human race.

anyways birdie, your right.. give it time, don't jump into anything, and use good judgement. PATIENCE is the key.

No , I didn't make it. :( I was under the weather.

WORD...this is the TRUTH

There you go making dumb generalizations again.

Fact is, all the good ones are NOT married, so please get real. There are a lot of good honest caring guys out there that are single, many of whom are thinking that women these days are all nuts. As Unseenworld said (a few posts above), women tend to gravitate like mindless lemmings to the bad boys, then they whine and whine about how <i>all men lie</i> or <i>all men are jerks</i>..... it's fucking retarded is what it is.

When you meet a good guy and decide you like him, then show him that he's special to you, make sure he knows that you are into him and only him, and he will treat you the way you say you want to be treated. It works both ways.

And if he doesn't, then he's not the right one.

The last chick I was with was about 4 months ago. I broke one of my cardinal rules and went out with one of my newest models, and quickly fell into it, instant relationship, complete with the whole bed-buddy thing, the nooners, "all of the above." Then she starts in with the "I really like bald guys, why don't you shave your head bald?" shit. I thought she was kidding.
Then she tells me one day that she was drunk on the friday night that had just passed, and she ended up kissing her best friend's boyfriend while her best friend was asleep in the other room. Needless to say, I sent her on a nice scenic one-way trip to dumpsville, population: her.

Here we have a great girl, 29 yrs old, nice looking, big tits, beautiful eyes, and very outgoing, full of life, and otherwise quite fun to be around...... and she starts trying to change me right away. Then she breaks my trust, right away. I would have been happy to hang with this girl exclusively had she not fucked it up.

It works both ways ladies.

yes CDSmith, but is the girl intelligent at all? heh. either she isn't very bright, or she isn't a very good friend / boyfriend if she fucked over her best friend and tried to change you.

i'm not one to stereotype but i have this ability just to look at a girl, give me 5 mins to look at her body language and i can tell if the bitch is worth it or not - about 90% right through my experience. and whats funny, is that a very large majority of the attractive girls AREN'T worth it. they're all so shallow and concerned with materialism. :\

Women.

They should just be glad we let them live.

Who was it who said, "Women...you can't live with them and you can't shoot 'em." (Unfortunately, that's apparently not always true.)

it's genetic :)

I always lie to girls and will never stop - it works

As my mother used to say to me "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" lol

Well I didn't bring you here but you get my point.

Well, I would hope that I never do find "Mrs. Right" as I think Mr. Right might leave me:(

You see, I am Mrs. Right:) :girl

My post was just a bit of humor to liven up the place. However, there are guys out there that think like that.