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Old 02-28-2008, 07:21 AM   #1
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TrueLife: I work in Porn

Last night on MTV was an episode from the 'TRUELIFE' series that documented 3 young people working in the Adult Entertainment industry.

One guy featured was a 22yr old heterosexaul male working in gay porn, claiming he wasn't gay and that the money was really good.

I say, if it looks like shit....smells like shit...and he just pulled his dick outta some twink`s ass....well then....

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Old 02-28-2008, 07:25 AM   #2
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:35 AM   #4
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no denying it, hes gay.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:36 AM   #5
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i would have to say, that after the first time you voluntarily take a dick in the ass... then you are gay
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i would have to say, that after the first time you voluntarily take a dick in the ass... then you are gay
Agreed, getting assfucked without getting shanked is way gay.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:40 AM   #7
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So his statement is "Im straight but I fuck other guys in the ass".

I think someone needs a wakeup call.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:43 AM   #8
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i would have to say, that after the first time you voluntarily take a dick in the ass... then you are gay
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:48 AM   #9
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Isnt MTV's demo 12-34 year olds? What an odd segment. Remember, anything you see on MTV is real. If its on TV, it must be true.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:49 AM   #10
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:51 AM   #11
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That would have been nice to see...I like to see their spin on the adult industry
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:23 AM   #13
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i can see his logic.

How many girls in porn who do things with other girls are lesbian or in it for the money? Same logic.

I'd fuck gay men for good money


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Old 02-28-2008, 08:48 AM   #14
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i can see his logic.

How many girls in porn who do things with other girls are lesbian or in it for the money? Same logic.

I'd fuck gay men for good money


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Girls don't need to get a boner first.

A boner is required to fuck another man in the ass properly (or his name is goatse)

You don't get a boner looking at a mans asshole unless your gay.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:16 AM   #15
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Girls don't need to get a boner first.

A boner is required to fuck another man in the ass properly (or his name is goatse)

You don't get a boner looking at a mans asshole unless your gay.
thanks for the insight into the gay man's mind ;-)
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:18 AM   #16
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he said he was GAY FOR PAY
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:44 AM   #17
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I thought MTV did a decent job on this truelife. The 2 chicks (the one thats a clerk at combatzone and the radio sex talk dj) were both hot and im sure fire in bed.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:55 AM   #18
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I say, if it looks like shit....smells like shit...and he just pulled his dick outta some twink`s ass....well then....

Thoughts?
I literally just started laughing out loud and still have a smile on my face...Nice comment!
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:23 AM   #19
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I saw that, why do the straight guys that do gay porn always claim they get paid these insane amounts of money? When its really not true. Justification for being a homo i guess.
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I applied to be featured in the show but they never responded, I guess I am WAY too civilized for their taste from what I hear.

As for the straight twinks banging gay guys - yes I have seen it on my own eyes.

They shot gay porn in our club location and the guy had to jerk intensely to a straight magazine every 2 minutes to recover the lost boner so he could nail the blonde twink that waited bent over for his warrior god.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:34 AM   #21
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:51 PM   #22
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I thought MTV did a decent job on this truelife. The 2 chicks (the one thats a clerk at combatzone and the radio sex talk dj) were both hot and im sure fire in bed.
Rad I will let Rebecka know!
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:06 PM   #23
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Girls don't need to get a boner first.

A boner is required to fuck another man in the ass properly (or his name is goatse)

You don't get a boner looking at a mans asshole unless your gay.
My thoughts exactly. How can you fuck with no boner???
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:31 PM   #25
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Agreed, getting assfucked without getting shanked is way gay.
some classic replies in this thread
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:45 PM   #26
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My thoughts exactly. How can you fuck with no boner???
Easily, you switch the roles.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:23 PM   #27
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He is gay. This is what is on his MySpace:

"EVENTUALLY I WILL MEET A MAN WHO IS ATTRACTIVE, LEADS A RESPONSIBLE LIFE STYLE, AND SHOWS ME RESPECT. UNTIL THEN I AM A STRAIGHT GUY WAITING TO BECOME A BI/GAY GUY."
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MTV is actually casting for another True Life show
MTV'S TRUE LIFE:
"I Live Another Life on the Web"

Do you sometimes feel as if you're living a double life? Are you pretending
to be someone you're not? Do you have one identity in your everyday life,
but a different one when you're alone and on-line? Does your virtual avatar
make you feel confident behind your computer screen? Are you famous online
but feel like you're invisible in real life?

Do you have trouble approaching someone for a date in person, but when
you're behind the comfort of your computer, do the words just flow? Would
you be afraid to be yourself if you were ever to come face-to-face with your
online friends or companions? Do you get so caught up in the person you
pretend to be on the web that you maintain that persona in person?



Thanks!

If you appear to be between the ages of 16 and 28, and live another life on
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MTV is actually casting for another True Life show
MTV'S TRUE LIFE:
"I Live Another Life on the Web"

Do you sometimes feel as if you're living a double life? Are you pretending
to be someone you're not? Do you have one identity in your everyday life,
but a different one when you're alone and on-line? Does your virtual avatar
make you feel confident behind your computer screen? Are you A TOTAL IDIOT online but feel like IT'S EVEN WORSE in real life?

Do you have trouble HATING someone in person, but when
you're behind the comfort of your computer, do the words just flow? Would you be afraid to be yourself if you were ever to come face-to-face with your online HATERS or companions? Do you get so caught up in the person you pretend to be on the web that you ARE AN IDIOT in person?



Thanks!

If you appear to be between the ages of 16 and 28, and live another life on
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He is gay. This is what is on his MySpace:

"EVENTUALLY I WILL MEET A MAN WHO IS ATTRACTIVE, LEADS A RESPONSIBLE LIFE STYLE, AND SHOWS ME RESPECT. UNTIL THEN I AM A STRAIGHT GUY WAITING TO BECOME A BI/GAY GUY."
that's dumb.
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Mainstream media loves to exploit people in porn. They use us like cheap content whores. I won't do another mainstream interview again.
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Mainstream media loves to exploit people in porn. They use us like cheap content whores. I won't do another mainstream interview again.
Especially US, British and German media are really good in this, they have to keep the "moral" appeal in everything so they don't piss their orthodox audience.

That's why we always let everyone who makes a story sign an agreement about the protection of goodwill.

Most of the mainstream press, including the Bloomberg business story worked out very positive so far.

One negative example happened recently when a totally unauthorized article was released in British tabloid newspapers - the guys sneaked in to the club and wrote a complete bullshit, using totally misleading associations to make the story "scandalous".

If they would be under the agreement, they would be sued already, as far as the article was not authorized we could probably sue them anyway, on the other hand you can live on with a couple thousands of British boneheads consuming junk information.

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MTV is actually casting for another True Life show
MTV'S TRUE LIFE:
"I Live Another Life on the Web"

Do you sometimes feel as if you're living a double life? Are you pretending
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I don't care how good the money are I don't think I would do it over and over again. Now let say it was "fear factor" type.. One time up the shitter and I have enough money to change my identity, get plastic surgery and move to some country I cant pronounce, I'll probably do it.. but not like that...
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My thoughts exactly. How can you fuck with no boner???
Hmmm better living through chemistry?


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I hate mtv, they ruin everything and turn things to shit


keep exploiting everything you can for ratings and suck up to the record labels and play manufactured music for the masses
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keep exploiting everything you can for ratings and suck up to the record labels and play manufactured music for the masses
I actually remember MTV as a yet quite listenable channel, but that's like 15 years ago...

Before the super polished douchebag pop and icy gangsta rap invasion.

Ever noticed that music videos barely make sense these days?

It's like:

- there are people (the singer and the bush)
- they look very nice, incredible make up, plastic surgery, boob jobs, tanned asses - everything in place
- they are shot from different angles as they are singing and dancing

that's it

resembles me the 80's pop era a lot, just the fashion and hairdos are different, the pace of the movement not that intense and music is less melodic and in most cases it's totally impossible to dance or even shake into those rhytms
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