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10-07-2002, 07:27 PM

Swiftone:

"I love these statistics. The U.S. causes 90% of the worlds pollution, uses 102% of all natural resources, blah blah.

The fact is the Kyoto treaty placed unreasonable demands on America, and anyone can full well see that. There's no pointin arguing, because anyone can see that."

The "stats" ain't some shaved shit from a sponsor! *g* Tis well known and accepted by US as well.

Yes.. Kyoto did place "unreasonable demands" on the US.. and you can see why? There is obviously a "little" problem when 25% of the world's resources are consumed by one country with what is really a "small" population.

I agree it is a problem... but *someone* (forget the "President" - he's well gone already,) has got to start addressing the problem else you'll end up grasping for air to the gas station for the next fill-up of the SUV!

It is a slight problem!

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10-07-2002, 07:27 PM

Ok, I lied. It wasn't my final post.

Originally posted by Swiftone
That doesn't mean there is ANYTHING wrong with the American people though.

However, what does seem to mean that there is a lot wrong with the american people, is that they keep on yelling that just about every single country in the world should either be eradicated, flattened or nuked, and that the US are the rightful "rulers of the world". I'm sure there are lots of sensible people in the US (Gore got more votes than Bush, after all - by the way, nice electoral system), but they seem to refrain from talking most of the time.

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#153

10-07-2002, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Webby
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Nuke em? Hell bit drastic and you gonna kill more innocent folks?

Although.. think this world would be far safer having some more executions at Huntsville of the Bush Admin *lol*

To tell ya the truth, I now feel kinda sorry for the US, - I have many good friends there and this place is getting so fucked up - it is a joke! Gotta be the worst possible place, least in the western world, for any "freedoms" blah "that we value most dearly" .. Pity!

Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit...
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10-07-2002, 07:32 PM

"Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit..."

I am neither of the Communist or Socialist faith father!

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10-07-2002, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy
(long but very interesting post)

With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population.

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10-07-2002, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by insidethegame
Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit...

Just two days ago I finished a rather extensive paper on why neither communism nor socialism are viable political systems.
My political views would best be described as post-liberalist democratic.

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10-07-2002, 07:38 PM

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Wot is justice???

Justice during war is the last breath of your enemy.

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10-07-2002, 07:39 PM

"With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population."

Agree! Saddam is an asshole.. little doubt! There is also a frenzy of bullshit propaganda about him that has little truth, (espcially coming from Bush). He (Saddam) is a genicide dealer and for the interests of many, tis better he leave.

However, sadly, I doubt that is the intention of the Bush Admin... they have more things at sake there than some nut, and the *sole* interest is in securing oil and a pipeline thru Iraq.

The "bombing" techique of the US is kinda old hat these days... it don't take 50 billion and many innocent lives to achieve this.

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10-07-2002, 07:40 PM

Say no more Fletch!

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#160

10-07-2002, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Webby

Wot is justice???

Justice is kicking in the door of Hussein's office with a fat cigar waiting to be lit, and a flamethrower strapped to your back.

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#161

10-07-2002, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

Saddam is the only true beneficiary of the embargo, he has used it to centralise state power and reinforce his control over people's lives, with most Iraqis dependant on the state food rationing system for day to day survival organised political dissent doesn't exist - it's cancelled out by a hatred for us.. Iraq was pro-western before '91.

take Saddam out.. but for fucks sake.. leave the iraqi people.. who are as literate and advanced as me and you have suffered enough.. even with saddam gone they've still got to deal with the uranium contamination the '91 munitions caused...

actually, i would have to say that most of what you said was very fair and accurate.
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10-07-2002, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Just two days ago I finished a rather extensive paper on why neither communism nor socialism are viable political systems.
My political views would best be described as post-liberalist democratic.

So what are you a high school student..know theres a real sense of experience and knowlege talking...LOLOL
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10-07-2002, 07:44 PM

Yea.. thought that was how the US justice system worked... Kinda backed up by Ashhahahahaha's activity in this "time of war"

However.. some actually have a justice system and they don't seem to need a flamethrower with em :-)

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10-07-2002, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Webby
"Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit..."

I am neither of the Communist or Socialist faith father!

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10-07-2002, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population.

taking Saddam out will be a very difficult but hopefully a good thing.. he is the only thing stopping an islamic revolution in Iraq though.. when he's gone the puppet that the US installs probably won't be able to control religious fervour... we may end up with another saudi arabia - where most of the s/11 hijackers came from but a US controlled government.

also might i suggest that you refrain from telling americans "someone should nuke america".. how can that possibly add anything to the debate? what have the people of america done? nothing. America is a great country.. it's just that some of their foreign policy is horrible.. Most countrys' foreign policy has very, very bad points just that because america is bigger people see more of it.. Australia, England etc etc are just as bad.. your average person doesn't know what is being done in their name overseas. you should be just as critical of your own country.
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