they never seem to have an answer for that one? lol

First off any webmaster who isn't watermarking their videos in this day and age is just plain idiotic. I can't count the number of videos/content I've seen on tube sites that I know would convert with my traffic but for the life of me I can't find the originating porn site, let alone the affiliate program to sign up with. Imagine what the affiliate is losing in potential sales.

Second, I don't know of any friend under the age of 25 that if they are looking for whole films / dvds / members areas that doesn't torrent rather than tube. Face it, even if you download the .fla files the quality is shit and if you want to convert to divx or even a shitty mpg it's impossible to up-sample.

Third, take my brother as an example. He is gay and loves the user submitted true amateur uploaded content - no studio's involved. He also has joined a slew of gay dating sites he has seen advertised on the tube sites after he has been "warmed up".

I know these aren't answers - but that's my point. If I had a good one I would be rich ;) What I'm saying is that the old model of sue and protect isn't viable anymore (if it ever was). It's the internet and "information wants to be free." The question is this day and age is how to harness the clear preference of the surfer and capitalize on it rather than fight it - it's a war you won't win. If the RIAA can't then do you really think you can?

Think iTunes and VOD as an simple example. There are porn stars I love and I really don't want to pay $29.95 just to download the one scene from a site - similar to why iTunes is popular - I can get the single without having to pay for the whole album. They key is I'm willing to pay. It might not be the full membership but then again I'm getting what I want and the paysite is getting a nice piece of coin in exchange for a tiny amount of bandwidth cost - in volume this adds up.

The answers are out there, and I wish I had them - but I do know this, the current model is broken and whoever cracks this nut will be very wealthy indeed.

See my points above. It's not an answer but kinda negates the lol.

Remember: "The Internet Is Serious Business" :upsidedow

damn those vids get a lot of hits

Paulo...I will gladly match you. That guy is ripping us off too.

Wow theres alot of stuff on there

Bump For paolo...

why dont you get some proxys, and get some small http request code made and run his bandwith down?

Look at his sponsors.. AFF(of course) and also a whitye label of videosz?

http://dvd.tube8.com/join.php?s=11680|0|884|15|wide&lg=us&dvd_id=3518

Are they supposed to watermark their DVDs too? I mean there are videos over an hour long on there. Could be wrong, but I doubt they were all just pulled off a paysite. People are ripping full DVDs and uploading them.

Rub their dick's in the dirt!

So Paolo, are you on the plane already with your gang?

Site bookmarked.

Great site!

LOL pretty funny that page has been removed now of course. You can not even sort by that anymore on the top right. What a bunch of stand up top notch guys / end sarcasm. For those that did not see the link before it was filled with hour long videos with no links to the sponsors etc.

Good, if the owner is reading this page, he can start removing Lightspeed content now too, I'm not as nice as Paolo. :2 cents:

All boiled down to me saying I knew where he lived and was ready to pay a visit if he did not answer my icq.

Will it stop the rest? I would say no. All the webmasters who failed to make money the correct way in this industry seem to always try a way to scam anyone they can.

It probably will not stop until a few get hurt by an angry webmaster who spend 200k shooting for a new site only to get it all stolen a week later from these free download sites.

Hes been an affiliate for yours for a while, you should have his info, he runs porn365.com which is legit, I don't know why he went down this road, I used to trade traffic with the guy.

amazing all the tube crap going on