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  • baddog
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    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #1

    Attn: Biz thread

    So I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday about the battle between Sony and Toshiba, specifically, the issue of Blu-Ray vs Hi-Def.

    From what I have gathered, since Toshiba has bowed out, hi-def will no longer be an option. Furthermore, Sony has said, "no porn on Blu-Ray."

    If his facts are correct (I presume they are, this is his forte), what does this mean for adult video producers that have invested in Hi-Def?

    What do you think will happen?
  • CrkMStanz
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    • Jan 2008
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    #2
    Originally posted by baddog

    Sony has said, "no porn on Blu-Ray."

    " this is his forte "
    I don't even want to say it...
    believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term

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    • munki
      Do Fun Shit.
      • Dec 2004
      • 13393

      #3
      How long do you think the no porn on Blu will last?

      I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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      • baddog
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        • Apr 2001
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        #4
        Originally posted by CrkMStanz
        I don't even want to say it...
        Didn't Sony say no porn to BetaMax as well? Of course, that probably contributed to their demise since VHS welcomed it with open arms.

        If you know something he doesn't, spill it.

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        • baddog
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          • Apr 2001
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          #5
          Originally posted by munki
          How long do you think the no porn on Blu will last?
          Since Sony has the largest movie library on the planet, I don't see any reason for them to change their stance.

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          • Damian_Maxcash
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            • Oct 2002
            • 12745

            #6
            Do Sony own the rights to the Blu-Ray format?

            If they do they have screwed everyone.....

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            • baddog
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              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #7
              Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
              Do Sony own the rights to the Blu-Ray format?

              If they do they have screwed everyone.....
              That is my understanding, yes.

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              • Christina Muller
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                • Mar 2007
                • 923

                #8
                Well as my business partner is ex head of sony marketing asia,I can tell you 100 percent after speaking to him porn will be available on Blu-ray

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                • munki
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  Since Sony has the largest movie library on the planet, I don't see any reason for them to change their stance.
                  http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/445

                  What about this stuff? Just quick research, but obviously of the limited replicators able to do Blu-Ray... somebody didn't get the memo...

                  I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                  • WWC
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #10
                    no matter what it will take some time to stream full screen hi def through the web....so it doesnt matter for us if no porn on blue ray....we are barely getting regular dvd in full screen online....unless its through iptv technology like our feeds ;-)
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                    • munki
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by WWC-Raffi
                      no matter what it will take some time to stream full screen hi def through the web....so it doesnt matter for us if no porn on blue ray....we are barely getting regular dvd in full screen online....unless its through iptv technology like our feeds ;-)
                      Just like with earlier video and streaming formats... people need to work on their compression structures, delivery codecs, and allow for some adaptation time.

                      I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        Originally posted by munki
                        http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/445

                        What about this stuff? Just quick research, but obviously of the limited replicators able to do Blu-Ray... somebody didn't get the memo...
                        Interesting

                        And in what we see as a nice little bit of postmodern irony, how fitting that the first Blu-ray adult title is also a sequel to the original 'Debbie Does Dallas,' which was not only one of porn's biggest hits in the '70s but responsible for helping to ensure the success of VHS over its rival -- the Sony Betamax.

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                        • baddog
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                          • Apr 2001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by WWC-Raffi
                          no matter what it will take some time to stream full screen hi def through the web....so it doesnt matter for us if no porn on blue ray....we are barely getting regular dvd in full screen online....unless its through iptv technology like our feeds ;-)
                          Was referring to discs, not Internet delivery.

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                          • Damian_Maxcash
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 12745

                            #14
                            Somebody asked a few days ago about 'True High Def' on sites.

                            MaxCash are VERY clear that we have 'Higher Def' video.

                            A few claimed they have TRUE High Def - Is that true?

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                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                              • Jul 2004
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                              #15
                              Sony already blinked on their no porn on Blu-Ray position...

                              LFP (Hustler), Digital Playground and others have already released adult titles in that format.

                              I imagine Sony would have lost another format war if they nixed porn again.

                              It won't matter much in a few years anyway, with a new multitude of delivery options opening up...

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                              • tony299
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                                • Aug 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                Sony already blinked on their no porn on Blu-Ray position...

                                LFP (Hustler), Digital Playground and others have already released adult titles in that format.

                                I imagine Sony would have lost another format war if they nixed porn again.

                                It won't matter much in a few years anyway, with a new multitude of delivery options opening up...

                                ADG
                                well now that they won and they could reverse the decision to go with porn.You have to remember before there was hd dvd looming out there so bending made sense.The next few months should be interesting.

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                                • Damian_Maxcash
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 12745

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                  Sony already blinked on their no porn on Blu-Ray position...

                                  LFP (Hustler), Digital Playground and others have already released adult titles in that format.

                                  I imagine Sony would have lost another format war if they nixed porn again.

                                  It won't matter much in a few years anyway, with a new multitude of delivery options opening up...

                                  ADG
                                  I cant see us delivering high def over the net - not in a few years anyway - If anyone wants porn in that format it will have to be on disc.

                                  Has any porn been made in REAL high def?

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                                  • tony299
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
                                    I cant see us delivering high def over the net - not in a few years anyway - If anyone wants porn in that format it will have to be on disc.

                                    Has any porn been made in REAL high def?
                                    Unless you have flaw fetish,you dont want to see porn in real hi def. lol

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                                    • baddog
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                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                      Unless you have flaw fetish,you dont want to see porn in real hi def. lol
                                      good point

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                                      • Damian_Maxcash
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 12745

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        Unless you have flaw fetish,you dont want to see porn in real hi def. lol
                                        lol - true - but not the point

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                                        • Rochard
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                                          • Dec 2001
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                                          #21
                                          What I think will happen is DVDs of any type will be finished in about a year or so.
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                                          • Christina Muller
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2007
                                            • 923

                                            #22
                                            Sony will allow porn on Blu-Ray disks

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                                            • munki
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                                              • Dec 2004
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              What I think will happen is DVDs of any type will be finished in about a year or so.
                                              Got to keep the slow, and non adaptors in mind though...

                                              There are people out there who still have SD analog screens... actuals tubes (gasp), and may just be getting out of the habit of their VHS favorites and slowly into DVD.

                                              DVDs will def be getting replaced, but a year is a lil quick to pronounce TOD.

                                              I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                                              • fuzebox
                                                making it rain
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 22353

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                Furthermore, Sony has said, "no porn on Blu-Ray."
                                                For one thing, the Blu-ray Disc Assocation is not Sony

                                                I spoke to a blu-ray rep at CES this year who told me that the rumor that there would be no blu-ray porn was blown out of proportion after a Disney replicating house stated they wouldn't work with adult content.

                                                shrug

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                                                • Damian_Maxcash
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 12745

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by munki
                                                  Got to keep the slow, and non adaptors in mind though...

                                                  There are people out there who still have SD analog screens... actuals tubes (gasp), and may just be getting out of the habit of their VHS favorites and slowly into DVD.

                                                  DVDs will def be getting replaced, but a year is a lil quick to pronounce TOD.
                                                  Did you just say Tubes? - Wash your mouth out!

                                                  Is anyone pushing REAL High Def video?

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                                                  • munki
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                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
                                                    Did you just say Tubes? - Wash your mouth out!

                                                    Is anyone pushing REAL High Def video?
                                                    I know... like where do I put the HDMI???

                                                    I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23262620/
                                                      interesting article the title is Ready to Buy Blu-ray? Better hit pause.

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                                                      • Damian_Maxcash
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 12745

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by munki
                                                        I know... like where do I put the HDMI???
                                                        I know what you mean - I have spent over $500 on HDMI leads and adaptors - and I still stick them in random holes and hope for the best.

                                                        Fucked if I have seen anything in real High Def either.

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                                                        • munki
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                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                          • 13393

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
                                                          I know what you mean - I have spent over $500 on HDMI leads and adaptors - and I still stick them in random holes and hope for the best.

                                                          Fucked if I have seen anything in real High Def either.
                                                          I'd kill for a working firewire from my cable box.... so many workarounds to make it happen it's driving me nuts.


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                                                          • tony299
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                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 57021

                                                            #30
                                                            http://library.creativecow.net/artic...im/blu-ray.php
                                                            go half down the page and start reading at
                                                            What if they gave a victory and nobody came?
                                                            It really puts it in prospective.

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                                                            • baddog
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                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                              http://library.creativecow.net/artic...im/blu-ray.php
                                                              go half down the page and start reading at
                                                              What if they gave a victory and nobody came?
                                                              It really puts it in prospective.
                                                              No, it really doesn't, IMHO. Watch by Christmas prices will have dropped enough to make it affordable to everyone.

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                                                              • tony299
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                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                No, it really doesn't, IMHO. Watch by Christmas prices will have dropped enough to make it affordable to everyone.
                                                                That doesnt mean they are going to buy them. My younger sister still loves VHS.People dont always adapter as fast as retail wants them too.

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                                                                • baddog
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                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                  That doesnt mean they are going to buy them. My younger sister still loves VHS.People dont always adapter as fast as retail wants them too.
                                                                  When was the last time you saw a VHS tape for sale or rent?

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                                                                  • RevSand
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                                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                    Unless you have flaw fetish,you dont want to see porn in real hi def. lol
                                                                    Quoted for truth!! Thats what I said a long time ago.. I have even heard some of the girls say they do not want to be shoot in HiDef.. There are sometimes the picture adding a little fuzzyness is better...


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                                                                    • Fizzgig
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                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 9649

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Back to the original question: Anyone who invested in Hi-Def needs to cut his losses and go to Blu-Ray. Sometimes you just have to go with the crowd.
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                                                                      • DatingGold
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        thats a good question... I bet they will allow it
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