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Old 02-23-2008, 06:47 PM   #101
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:00 PM   #102
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anyone else putting 2 and 2 together here?

Brazzers own pornhub.com It was full of stolen content then got called out on GFY and Brazzers blammed it on "partners" and claim they had nothing to do with it they are just silent partners. The site gets cleaned up over night.

Brazzers advertises on several illegal tube sites next to stolen content.

Twistys *claims* to have spent millions fighting stolen content but then does business with Redtube. They get called out for it and fucked by redtube so they stop.

So of all sites, Twistys chooses to do business and cross sales with Brazzers.

Shap owns Gaytube.com which was full of stolen content and gets called out on GFY, over night the stolen content is removed.

Pornhub and gaytube hosted at the same company. How many connections and similarities are there between Brazzers and Shap. Seems like these two people come from the same school of thought and i would bet anything there are doing some major deals and idea sharing behind the scenes.
You know, these things crossed my mind aswell. I actually think Shap bought a stake in brazzers since i saw that cross-sell. I'm doubtfull he would, out of the blue, start cross-sells with another site just like that, or because they offered him something that some other big sites didn't/couldn't. It could be that brazzers bought part of twisty also, but somehow i see it as the other way around, especially with all the influx of "exclusive new content" in brazzers last year or so. It's got Shap's handprint somehow
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:22 PM   #103
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It's a shame that they were caught at alexa ranking 2000, before they could reach top 200. with only 1-2 min videos it's only downhill from here
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:33 PM   #104
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It's a shame that they were caught at alexa ranking 2000, before they could reach top 200. with only 1-2 min videos it's only downhill from here
I am not sticking up for any one side here - but, if he wants to shove full vids on the site he can. They are in no way restricted to 1-2 min clips.

He owns massive amounts of content.
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:36 PM   #105
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I am not sticking up for any one side here - but, if he wants to shove full vids on the site he can. They are in no way restricted to 1-2 min clips.

He owns massive amounts of content.
The difference is this: Unlike straight porn, best gay porn is produced by a few studios and CCBill programs who want to keep all the vids exclusive to their own programs... So none of those titles are available in content stores or VOD.
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:41 PM   #106
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The difference is this: Unlike straight porn, best gay porn is produced by a few studios and CCBill programs who want to keep all the vids exclusive to their own programs... So none of those titles are available in content stores or VOD.
There are 1000's of gay DVDs on sale for the trade.

OK, he cant use the best - but he is far from restricted to 1-2 min clips.
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:45 PM   #107
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There are 1000's of gay DVDs on sale for the trade.

OK, he cant use the best - but he is far from restricted to 1-2 min clips.
How do you know that the licenses he has cover that kind of use in a tube site?
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:50 PM   #108
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I am not sticking up for any one side here - but, if he wants to shove full vids on the site he can. They are in no way restricted to 1-2 min clips.

He owns massive amounts of content.
He collects membership fee for his own content (on his paysite). He's not gonna go berserk posting full lenght vids of his own, cause that would mean less sign ups to his own site. Posting stolen content is much easier. It doesn't affect your paysite and once the tube site has steady flow of high traffic, he can use it to promote his paysite by posting his own 2 minute clips. Guy's got it figured. Wander how many webmasters are gonna continue promoting his sites despite this thievery
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:59 PM   #109
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:12 PM   #110
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How do you know that the licenses he has cover that kind of use in a tube site?
How do you know he dosnt?

Im not the one accusing anyone of anything.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:13 PM   #111
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someone register and startup ShapTube.com (its available) and nail every one of his videos on the site
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:34 PM   #112
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someone register and startup ShapTube.com (its available) and nail every one of his videos on the site
Actually doing something like this for every sponsor that is advertising on tube sites full of stolen content would actually be hillarious. Imagine "Brazzertube", "Shaptube" and all those. What would be even more funny is when they complained you'd ask them to point the stolen videos to you and that you'd comply immediatelly!
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Old 02-23-2008, 11:39 PM   #113
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:07 AM   #114
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:57 AM   #115
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:25 AM   #116
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What I was trying to say was that you CANT run a legit tube site with user submits.

How many "moderaters' do you think RedTube would have needed when it was open submit?

It would have been a MASSIVE job. Not 1 or 2 people but dozens... have you looked at there stats?

It can only be done by the book if it is 'owner submitted'.
If you can't run a legit site because of lack of time or resources to check submissions, maybe you shouldn't accept submissions to begin with
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:27 AM   #117
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If you can't run a legit site because of lack of time or resources to check submissions, maybe you shouldn't accept submissions to begin with
People just dont understand why tube sites can even operate without 2257 info. I REALLY wish someone would CLEARLY explain 2257 and user uploaded material, and dmca requests to the masses. Its an all or nothing situation.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:22 AM   #118
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That is fucked up!
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:33 AM   #119
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if it is true. why are people surprised?
fuck i been telling you people all along that good people are going to go to the dark side to compete.
more coming. mark my words.
I have to agree with you A1R3k - sadly
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:41 AM   #120
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Did I miss something... In that other thread Shap says he doesn't run anything illegal... But if he was hosting videos that he didn't have the rights to, then that would be illegal... and those videos were there one minute and gone the next right?... Has he actually responded with more than "we dont' run anything illegal" or has he just gotten threads locked instead....
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Tempest and anybody else who wants to talk business or ask me a question email me at shap at twistys dot com. I'm not going to waste my time addressing people who are anonymous and own nothing. Those who want to do business and make money know where to hit me up
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Did I miss something... In that other thread Shap says he doesn't run anything illegal... But if he was hosting videos that he didn't have the rights to, then that would be illegal... and those videos were there one minute and gone the next right?... Has he actually responded with more than "we dont' run anything illegal" or has he just gotten threads locked instead....
Shap got caught up in major lies about his tube sites. Some people brought it to public attention. GFY admins banned them and locked the threads.

Money buys anything on this board.
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Lol. Shap's doing the "if you want to make money talk to me ...." routine. Lol. Or the "watch out, you'll get banned", or "you'll deal with my attorneys".

Did you go bellow 10k members or what?
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:57 PM   #126
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People just dont understand why tube sites can even operate without 2257 info. I REALLY wish someone would CLEARLY explain 2257 and user uploaded material, and dmca requests to the masses. Its an all or nothing situation.
And how much are actually "user" uploaded.

Sticky, let's both open tube sites, I'll "user" upload to your site and you can "user" upload to mine.
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Lol. Shap's doing the "if you want to make money talk to me ...." routine. Lol. Or the "watch out, you'll get banned", or "you'll deal with my attorneys".

Did you go bellow 10k members or what?
nothing like making money with a content thief.
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Tempest and anybody else who wants to talk business or ask me a question email me at shap at twistys dot com. I'm not going to waste my time addressing people who are anonymous and own nothing. Those who want to do business and make money know where to hit me up
Dude.... You made us sit thru multiple pages about your stance on the tube sites and now you get egg on your face and you hide away... Do I really need to quote you saying you don't hide from what you're doing and the decisions you make etc... Take your lumps man...
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I haven't been following the Shap discussions here, although I found Twistys to be a good sponsor.

I would guarantee that if anything illegal was being hosted at Swifwill however, that dweeks from Swiftwill would terminate them. They have got to be the most honest and ethical host in this biz.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:21 PM   #130
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I would guarantee that if anything illegal was being hosted at Swifwill however, that dweeks from Swiftwill would terminate them. They have got to be the most honest and ethical host in this biz.
somebody mentioned earlier in this thread that swiftwill host tube sites with stolen content big time. Pornhub and gaytube for example
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Hey people! Lets all ask Shap for his advice now, he is such a stand up guy! I'm sure he could teach us a thing or two!
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Here we go again with this dumb shit.

Somebody nobody cares about bumping old threads nobody cares about.

Yay! Here's your cookie.

Also, under shap, gaytube.com was a boon to any gay program. They sent so many sales. I do not remember any piracy issues with them.
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Here we go again with this dumb shit.

Somebody nobody cares about bumping old threads nobody cares about.

Yay! Here's your cookie.

Also, under shap, gaytube.com was a boon to any gay program. They sent so many sales. I do not remember any piracy issues with them.
who are you again?

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