HD compression software?

[jpv]

I always used cleaner for compressions but now we are having some problems with hd files. After premier edits the m2t files we have it export a microsoft avi file. Cleaner and WMP does not even read this avi file correctly but quicktime does. I am not sure if it is something we messed up in the export or if we just need a different compression software to compress it down to a wmv and mpg.

suggestions?

[tony286]

Ive heard good things about sorenson squeeze

[Jim_Gunn]

Are you using the latest version of Cleaner XL (1.5) for pc or an older version, that may or may not be able to handle HD files? I have used that app for batch video encoding for many years now, and also use the latest version of Sorenson Squeeze nowadays. One thing to note: AVI is just a container- you have to make sure that whatever app you are using to do encoding (Cleaner XL or Sorenson Squeeze) knows what codec your large intermediate AVI files were exported with.

Are you encoding on the same pc you are doing the export from Premiere with or another pc that may not have the codec? For example,I edit hdv with the Cineform codec in Premiere Pro and export the movies as AVIs. Cleaner can import them only if one has the Cineform codec on the pc. But Sorenson Squeeze can't import Cineform encoded AVI files at all, they first have to be "re-wrapped" as .MOV files with Cineform's HD Link app to be imported into Squeeze, and then I can batch encode them in Squeeze as WMV, Flash or Quicktime.

[BuggyG]

have been using Canopus Procoder andhave no problems with it for HD

[Lance69]

You could just export as .M2T file , then rename to .MPG and drop it in cleaner. That is if Premiere can export as M2T. Never really used it but with Avid you can do that, works great for us.

[LFCII]

Hi,

I am a little late on this and might be a little off. However, you might be trying to read a type 1 AVI. Try to convert it to type 2.

Kind Regards,

Les

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by jpv

I always used cleaner for compressions but now we are having some problems with hd files. After premier edits the m2t files we have it export a microsoft avi file. Cleaner and WMP does not even read this avi file correctly but quicktime does. I am not sure if it is something we messed up in the export or if we just need a different compression software to compress it down to a wmv and mpg.

suggestions?

Export to Mpeg 2 not avi.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Are you using the latest version of Cleaner XL (1.5) for pc or an older version, that may or may not be able to handle HD files? I have used that app for batch video encoding for many years now, and also use the latest version of Sorenson Squeeze nowadays. One thing to note: AVI is just a container- you have to make sure that whatever app you are using to do encoding (Cleaner XL or Sorenson Squeeze) knows what codec your large intermediate AVI files were exported with.

Are you encoding on the same pc you are doing the export from Premiere with or another pc that may not have the codec? For example,I edit hdv with the Cineform codec in Premiere Pro and export the movies as AVIs. Cleaner can import them only if one has the Cineform codec on the pc. But Sorenson Squeeze can't import Cineform encoded AVI files at all, they first have to be "re-wrapped" as .MOV files with Cineform's HD Link app to be imported into Squeeze, and then I can batch encode them in Squeeze as WMV, Flash or Quicktime.

Wow!! very well said.. I have been dealing with it for 3 days!! thats 3 days of no shooting and all processing and re-wrapping.. Sux!!


I edit in FCP 6. I import my HDV in as apple "Hi-res 422" or "HDV" depending on what i need to do in editing.


If my client is re-editing on pc with adobe premier, i export into mpeg 4. then i use quicktime pro to re-wrap the file from MOV. into AVI. MOV. and AVI. are wrappers or containers. If you wrap apple Hi-res or HDV into and AVI. from a Mac, it will work on your mac and your PC but will not work in a PC editor.


i have also experienced problems with mpeg 4's getting coded with no sound. This really starts to suck when you are processing 15 hdv scenes and it takes 4 hours of rendering per scene!!


If you are editing in FCP 6 apple pro res is the best way to import HDV into your system. It gives you a key frame every frame. (it uncompresses HDV).. the down side is that it turns an 8 gig file into a 40 gig file. the 2nd downside is that it will take 4 hours to transcode back to HDV when loading it back to HDV tape.


The upside is that if you fucked your shoot up with poor lighting or you are going to add motion or a lot of post non porn tricks, "apple pro res 422" is the shit!!!! You have that many more key frames to fuck with!! I love it for my non porn shoots. After export, i kick off all of the scratch files for saving space.


The conclusion I came to is; importing HDV tape in the original HDV codec is the way to go for me when i shoot porn or anything that doesn't need extensive post correction. I edit it in HDV, (Which is a compressed codec), render it, then export back to tape in HDV. (because it takes less time to export to tape and i know i shoot it right to begin with)


Thats been my experiences the past 10 days. Mac and PC dont work well together with HDV!!! SD, i never had any problems.


Hope this helps some of you out there. If you google "HDV, MOV. into AVI." Nobody has really come up with consistent method for going back and for from 1 editing system to the other.


and if you got a way to go back and forth without exporting to tape please let me know..