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Old 02-28-2008, 06:24 AM   #1
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Obama Supporter Caught Off Guard ( VID)

Caughtoff guard and asked why he supports Obama

go's on to own interviewer


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We need more people like that in the US.
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lol, funny how the interviewer totally changed his tone... in the beginning he was being an asshole, imo.
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This was a propaganda/ support video for Obama. Why would a guy post his video on youtube if he got owned?
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That guy should run in a few years... he owned that.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:31 AM   #7
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this guy really owned it.....holly shit the reporter went in to make this kid look like a retard and turned into a debate. and he totally owned the debate man...seems almost rehearsed.

Nice reply.
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NIce to see intelligent black guy... speaking normal English and not trying to "conversate" like some do here.
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Ha. They picked the wrong guy to try and mess with. This kid has a brain and is using it.
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I wish I give those answers if a reporter comes to me like that.

The reporter was so planning on the guy looking off into space and not comming up with any answers.

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Thats a smart kid. It has to be staged though or that reporter is a real asshole. Since when do unbias reporters act in that manner.
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Since when do unbias reporters act in that manner.
There is really no such thing as an unbiased reporter, they all add a little
slant based on their perception.

The only way to have an unbiased reporter is for the reporter to simply hand the mic to someone and say "please tell us what you think" without asking
any questions. Not what most people today would call an interview.
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There is really no such thing as an unbiased reporter, they all add a little
slant based on their perception.

The only way to have an unbiased reporter is for the reporter to simply hand the mic to someone and say "please tell us what you think" without asking
any questions. Not what most people today would call an interview.
I hear ya. but that reporter was adding his opinion way too much for my taste.
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I hear ya. but that reporter was adding his opinion way too much for my taste.
it's called "MAKING SHIT INTERESTING" You should look it up
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I was expecting a lot worse, that guy didn't do too bad of job answering the questions. The reporter was definitely a dick at first and trying to confuse/pressure him.
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Don't let baddog see this, he thinks people only support Obama because he's black....especially the black people that support him......I would hate see him dispirited by something like this.
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Obama campaign rep gets asked about Obama's legislative accomplishments.
Why do you have to lie?
That guy doesn't work for the Obama campaign, he's a Texas state senator who said he was going to support Obama.....he was obviously in way over his head....that is in no way a reflection on Obama.

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I was expecting a lot worse, that guy didn't do too bad of job answering the questions. The reporter was definitely a dick at first and trying to confuse/pressure him.
Yeah it seemed like he was trying to get the kid to say he was supporting Obama because he was black...or make him look like an idiot who didn't understand the issues so therefore if he was supporting Obama it was for superficial reasons.

He picked the wrong brutha to try that trick on.
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Don't let baddog see this, he thinks people only support Obama because he's black....especially the black people that support him......I would hate see him dispirited by something like this.
People support Obama because he's charismatic. Hardly a better reason.

The American economy is in tatters right now. Charisma won't solve that. The dollar is at an all-time low. Charisma won't solve that. Budget deficits are downright scary. Charisma won't solve that.
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NIce to see intelligent black guy... speaking normal English and not trying to "conversate" like some do here.
Now that's a helpful comment. Good job buddy!
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posting things without knowing what you are posting . .

see the irony ? ?
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People support Obama because he's charismatic. Hardly a better reason.

The American economy is in tatters right now. Charisma won't solve that. The dollar is at an all-time low. Charisma won't solve that. Budget deficits are downright scary. Charisma won't solve that.

hahahaha . . do you acutally know what Charisma is ? and how it can acutally solve many of the problems you just stated ? ?
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Why do you have to lie?
That guy doesn't work for the Obama campaign, he's a Texas state senator who said he was going to support Obama.....he was obviously in way over his head....that is in no way a reflection on Obama.

Dickhead.
Nice attitude there.

But you're right. I went by the headline of that video, rather than doing some research on the guy. Apologies for that.

Regardless, the video actually is representative of much of the Obama hype. While Obama is undoubtedly an inspiring personality and gifted public speaker, that does not change the fact that, at present, he has relatively little experience and has not yet proven himself to be capable of taking meaningful and effective actions.

I would love to see him become president in 8 years, provided he actually manages to achieve a strong legislative record along with his inspiring words.

Right now, however, he is a risk. The economy needs a capable bureaucrat and manager, not just an inspiring leader.
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too bad this is not why most blacks support Obama and thats not typical black guy.
Most would know a difference between welfare and universal healthcare program.
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hahahaha . . do you acutally know what Charisma is ? and how it can acutally solve many of the problems you just stated ? ?
Actually, it cannot solve these things. It can aid in creating support for measures to attempt to solve these things, but by itself it is not enough.

The problem with the American economy, right now, is not just a lack of consumer trust. Had that been the sole problem, charisma would indeed go a long way toward solving these issues.

Sadly, however, the problem lies much deeper. What is needed is an extensive set of measures involving budget cuts, increases in consumer savings, tax adjustments, and more. This requires a person who not merely inspires people, but is able withstand the pressures of legions of advisers and lobbyists, all the while keeping a comprehensive overview of the issues at hand and setting a realistic and effective course for change.

Right now, there is no way to know how Obama will deal with this if he gets elected. Certainly, he is bound to be a big step up from Bush, but that does not mean he will be able to govern well, scrutinizing the painful details of policy while being hammered by numerous conflicting arguments even among his very closest advisers.

And remember, charisma guarantees nothing. Martin Luther King, Hugo Chavez, Ghandi, Adolf Hitler - all of them charismatic, yet obviously very different.
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To bad Ron Paul was the only one with the balls to do the things that you just stated need to be done. I agree 100% with what you just said.

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Actually, it cannot solve these things. It can aid in creating support for measures to attempt to solve these things, but by itself it is not enough.

The problem with the American economy, right now, is not just a lack of consumer trust. Had that been the sole problem, charisma would indeed go a long way toward solving these issues.

Sadly, however, the problem lies much deeper. What is needed is an extensive set of measures involving budget cuts, increases in consumer savings, tax adjustments, and more. This requires a person who not merely inspires people, but is able withstand the pressures of legions of advisers and lobbyists, all the while keeping a comprehensive overview of the issues at hand and setting a realistic and effective course for change.

Right now, there is no way to know how Obama will deal with this if he gets elected. Certainly, he is bound to be a big step up from Bush, but that does not mean he will be able to govern well, scrutinizing the painful details of policy while being hammered by numerous conflicting arguments even among his very closest advisers.

And remember, charisma guarantees nothing. Martin Luther King, Hugo Chavez, Ghandi, Adolf Hitler - all of them charismatic, yet obviously very different.
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Also, as an aside, I find Obama's assumptions regarding health care rather troubling.

He claims to offer universal health care, yet does not propose a mandate, and even goes so far as to attack Hillary Clinton for forcing those who cannot afford it to get health insurance.

The claim of universal health care suggests that he believes that health insurance being affordable will mean everyone participates in it. This is unsupported by any facts or research, and seems overwhelmingly naive and idealistic. After all, who doesn't know people who are silly enough to prefer the immediate gratification of a new PS3 or car over the long-term security of health insurance?

Fortunately, Obama isn't quite as naive, as his attack on Clinton shows. Clearly, he realizes that there are people who won't be getting health insurance.

This creates a problem, however: the uninsured.

A lack of insurance has two major results.

First, the uninsured poor are likely to forgo medical treatment until they truly have no other alternative left. By that time, however, many diseases which could have been treated fairly cheaply and efficiently will have progressed to the point where treatment is either extremely expensive or futile. (right now, this probably causes thousands of preventable deaths a year in the US)

Second, since the uninsured ill are likely to receive treatment anyway, often with no means of paying for it, they are a burden on the health care system as a whole, raising prices for those who do have insurance.
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Also, as an aside, I find Obama's assumptions regarding health care rather troubling.

He claims to offer universal health care, yet does not propose a mandate, and even goes so far as to attack Hillary Clinton for forcing those who cannot afford it to get health insurance.

The claim of universal health care suggests that he believes that health insurance being affordable will mean everyone participates in it. This is unsupported by any facts or research, and seems overwhelmingly naive and idealistic. After all, who doesn't know people who are silly enough to prefer the immediate gratification of a new PS3 or car over the long-term security of health insurance?

Fortunately, Obama isn't quite as naive, as his attack on Clinton shows. Clearly, he realizes that there are people who won't be getting health insurance.

This creates a problem, however: the uninsured.

A lack of insurance has two major results.

First, the uninsured poor are likely to forgo medical treatment until they truly have no other alternative left. By that time, however, many diseases which could have been treated fairly cheaply and efficiently will have progressed to the point where treatment is either extremely expensive or futile. (right now, this probably causes thousands of preventable deaths a year in the US)

Second, since the uninsured ill are likely to receive treatment anyway, often with no means of paying for it, they are a burden on the health care system as a whole, raising prices for those who do have insurance.
Well he actually does have a mandate in his proposal. Though its just a mandate to parents with children to cover their children with insurance. He was afraid to ruffle feathers and put his neck out to go all the way and mandate everyone.

He bashes Clinton on having a mandate and having talked about imposing penalties to enforce it. Well his plan has the same mandate and he will have impose penalties to enforce it. His is just a half assed mandate and he has ZERO right to call his plan universal.
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You are confusing affordable health care with health insurance. Just because someone is insured does not mean they can afford to go to the doctor. This is the fatal flaw in thought process of those pro universal health care it is really universal health insurance.

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He claims to offer universal health care, yet does not propose a mandate, and even goes so far as to attack Hillary Clinton for forcing those who cannot afford it to get health insurance.

The claim of universal health care suggests that he believes that health insurance being affordable will mean everyone participates in it. This is unsupported by any facts or research, and seems overwhelmingly naive and idealistic. After all, who doesn't know people who are silly enough to prefer the immediate gratification of a new PS3 or car over the long-term security of health insurance?

Fortunately, Obama isn't quite as naive, as his attack on Clinton shows. Clearly, he realizes that there are people who won't be getting health insurance.

This creates a problem, however: the uninsured.

A lack of insurance has two major results.

First, the uninsured poor are likely to forgo medical treatment until they truly have no other alternative left. By that time, however, many diseases which could have been treated fairly cheaply and efficiently will have progressed to the point where treatment is either extremely expensive or futile. (right now, this probably causes thousands of preventable deaths a year in the US)

Second, since the uninsured ill are likely to receive treatment anyway, often with no means of paying for it, they are a burden on the health care system as a whole, raising prices for those who do have insurance.
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You are confusing affordable health care with health insurance. Just because someone is insured does not mean they can afford to go to the doctor. This is the fatal flaw in thought process of those pro universal health care it is really universal health insurance.
That depends on the type of insurance, actually. Co-payments, exclusion clauses, limitation clauses, and other things like that can present problems for the poor, certainly. However, these things can be limited to ensure that people will actually visit doctors when necessary.
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