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Old 02-02-2008, 12:30 PM   #1
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I honestly think that drinking is WAY worse than smoking pot (for most people).

When is the last time someone got stoned and beat up the wifey?

I'm not standing up for smoking, obviously someone can operate better w/ out drugs.
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Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it, and free up jail space.
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I honestly think that drinking is WAY worse than smoking pot (for most people).

When is the last time someone got stoned and beat up the wifey?

I'm not standing up for smoking, obviously someone can operate better w/ out drugs.
It's a total non sense and a very cheap argument.

When is the last time you seen a 15 year old bloke with glass eyes uncapable of tying up his shoes?

Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.

It's also not spoken about that 8 - 10 pct. of marijuana smokers are serious addicts (I interested about this myself once I needed to lay off one pothead from our company) and suffer from various states of pathological behaviour including outbursts of uncontrolled aggresivity once they are in their abstining time.

What really pisses me of, are thos CHEAP arguments that are a very popular eye catchers for media:

"Pot less harmful than alcohol" "pot less harmful than cigarettes" "pot helped a geront to cure his problems"

BUT

Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.


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Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.

so, the bottom line is, you think it is not a great thing for people to do, so you see nothing wrong with completely stripping one of their freedoms, forcing them at the point of a policeman's gun to be locked away in a jail for simply possessing this relatively benign herb that god has given us?

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Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.
so you make an argument that people who smoke are not reliable to YOU? Go fuck YOUrself. Dickface.
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It's a total non sense and a very cheap argument.

When is the last time you seen a 15 year old bloke with glass eyes uncapable of tying up his shoes?

Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.

It's also not spoken about that 8 - 10 pct. of marijuana smokers are serious addicts (I interested about this myself once I needed to lay off one pothead from our company) and suffer from various states of pathological behaviour including outbursts of uncontrolled aggresivity once they are in their abstining time.

What really pisses me of, are thos CHEAP arguments that are a very popular eye catchers for media:

"Pot less harmful than alcohol" "pot less harmful than cigarettes" "pot helped a geront to cure his problems"

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Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.

that's a bunch of bullshit.
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weed is one of the least harmful things we could put in our bodies, and does not cause any long term side affects according to recent studies.

you idiots that think otherwise are caught up on government funded studies from back in the day...that they do with all drugs to scare people from using them.

and CarlosTheGaucho, you're a moron...any psychological problems you've seen in people that might smoke weed, it goes a lot further than the weed. People who are screwed up and smoke weed, in anyone I've known, they were screwups long before they ever smoked...people like you just like to use weed as the excuse for it.
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It's a total non sense and a very cheap argument.

When is the last time you seen a 15 year old bloke with glass eyes uncapable of tying up his shoes?

Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.

It's also not spoken about that 8 - 10 pct. of marijuana smokers are serious addicts (I interested about this myself once I needed to lay off one pothead from our company) and suffer from various states of pathological behaviour including outbursts of uncontrolled aggresivity once they are in their abstining time.

What really pisses me of, are thos CHEAP arguments that are a very popular eye catchers for media:

"Pot less harmful than alcohol" "pot less harmful than cigarettes" "pot helped a geront to cure his problems"

BUT

Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.



You are widely uneducated, and wildly misinformed about marijuana. You need to read the book Understanding Marijuana (an objective summary of all studies on marijuana) then come back here and see if you would make the same arguments. It's people like you that believe in that propaganda shoved down our throats that perpetuate the myths.
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Great loaded question.

If people who smoked weed, much as people who drink too much, would not drive, I'd say "Yes, it should be regulated, about as strict as alcohol." Note that this is endorsing it being taxed, but other than vague checks and ID scans at checkout, that's it.

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I was smoking Panama Red in high school when Grandpa Bush was head of the CIA and didn't know where the drugs where coming from while having a martini with Noriega on the sofa.

Funny thing though around 20 years later when the Panama canal was mentioned an entirely different turn of events occured
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Well guess what presidential canidate want to legallize , regulate and tax weed:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...1428186.column

Barack Obama


Lately, Barack Obama has been quoting John F. Kennedy: "The world is changing. The old ways will not do." For a few hours the other day, I was starting to think he really meant it.

On Thursday, The Washington Times reported that in 2004, as a candidate for the U.S. Senate, Obama came out for decriminalizing marijuana use. That usually means eliminating jail sentences and arrest records for anyone caught with a small amount for personal use, treating it more like a traffic offense than a violent crime. But in a show of hands at a debate last fall, he indicated that he opposed the idea.

When confronted on the issue by the Times, however, the senator defended his original ground. His campaign said he has "always" supported decriminalization. It's a brave position, and therefore exceedingly rare among practicing politicians. Which may be why it didn't last. Before the day was over, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying he thinks "we are sending far too many first-time non-violent drug users to prison for very long periods of time" but "does not believe that we should treat offenses involving marijuana with a simple fine or just by confiscating the drug." Recently, he had told a New Hampshire newspaper, "I'm not in favor of decriminalization."



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This episode reveals that as a candidate, Obama is more fond of bold rhetoric than bold policies. But it also proves the impossibility of talking sense on the subject of illicit drugs during a political campaign. That course of action would mean admitting the inadmissible: that the prohibition of cannabis has been cruel, wasteful and fraudulent.

Cruel because it leads to the arrest of nearly 700,000 people a year for mere possession of a substance that is comparatively benign. Wasteful because it expends billions of dollars in police, court and correctional resources that could be deployed against dangerous predators. Fraudulent because it hasn't solved anything: According to the federal government, nearly 100 million Americans have tried the stuff.

But in the political realm, a strangely disjointed view of drugs prevails. Past use is forgivable. Both George W. Bush and Bill Clinton admitted to smoking marijuana, as did Al Gore and John Kerry. Obama has admitted doing the same.

At the same time, no major party presidential nominee has advocated decriminalization (much less legalization) since Jimmy Carter did so in 1976. It would be considered political suicide. So we are now in a bizarre position: A candidate who spent his college days flouting our marijuana laws can be elected president, but an abstemious, button-downed candidate who proposes to change those laws has no hope.

Had we enforced our statutes more vigorously, of course, Bush, and many other officials would never have been elected anything, because they would be ex-convicts. Yet they are happy to put people behind bars for crimes they themselves committed.

One alternative to that approach is decriminalization, which is not exactly radical or untried. It's already the norm in 12 states?not just California and New York, but places like Mississippi, Ohio and Nebraska. About one of every three Americans lives in a state or city where pot users typically don't go to jail.

Despite this lenient approach, Omaha and Cincinnati still would never be mistaken for Jamaica. One thing we know is that criminal penalties have little if any effect on the number of stoners. States that have decriminalized cannabis are largely indistinguishable from states that have not.

A 1999 report by the National Academy of Sciences found "little evidence that decriminalization of marijuana use necessarily leads to a substantial increase in marijuana use." Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron surveyed the available data from here and abroad and agreed: "Existing evidence provides no indication that marijuana decriminalization causes increased marijuana use."

This discovery should not be surprising. Cigarettes and beer are both legally available, but smoking and drinking have been declining for years. Freedom is not incompatible with enlightened self-restraint. In fact, it seems to foster it.

Politicians normally can't say such things. But near the end of his administration, Bill Clinton confided to Rolling Stone magazine that he thought marijuana should be decriminalized. Maybe, eight years from now, Obama will do likewise.

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It's a total non sense and a very cheap argument.

When is the last time you seen a 15 year old bloke with glass eyes uncapable of tying up his shoes?

Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.

It's also not spoken about that 8 - 10 pct. of marijuana smokers are serious addicts (I interested about this myself once I needed to lay off one pothead from our company) and suffer from various states of pathological behaviour including outbursts of uncontrolled aggresivity once they are in their abstining time.

What really pisses me of, are thos CHEAP arguments that are a very popular eye catchers for media:

"Pot less harmful than alcohol" "pot less harmful than cigarettes" "pot helped a geront to cure his problems"

BUT

Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.


So basically what you're saying is one should tie their shoes BEFORE lighting up?
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...1428186.column

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No the ticket is still better than all the taxes if its legalized. Not like we have a problem I would rather save the money, than give it to the Gov they get too much as it is already
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with all the money flying through all these clubs right now. sooner or later someones gonna want to get a bigger cut. i have a feeling it will be legalized in some states sooner than you think.
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lol, that would make way too much sense.
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You are an idiot with very little education. I bet.
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It's a total non sense and a very cheap argument.

When is the last time you seen a 15 year old bloke with glass eyes uncapable of tying up his shoes?

Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.

It's also not spoken about that 8 - 10 pct. of marijuana smokers are serious addicts (I interested about this myself once I needed to lay off one pothead from our company) and suffer from various states of pathological behaviour including outbursts of uncontrolled aggresivity once they are in their abstining time.

What really pisses me of, are thos CHEAP arguments that are a very popular eye catchers for media:

"Pot less harmful than alcohol" "pot less harmful than cigarettes" "pot helped a geront to cure his problems"

BUT

Do you know anyone SERIOUSLY smoking pot to be reliable? I don't, what's more I have seen too many people that I even knew when I was in my teen years that pot turned into complete idiots.



You are the second largest idiot with little to no education on this board. congrats
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Besides the fact that it's actually evidenced that if you smoke weed between your 15 - 18 years of age it may launch a vast choice of psychical problems including schizophrenia that may as well make a half retard from you.
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Yes, it would be great for our society, especially for kids. It would help us breed our new generation of rocket scientists.
I agree look how well the hippie generation of the 60's has run things the last 15 years. I mean what a bang up job. Obviously the pot really helped them expand their minds.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:05 AM   #41
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Please show us where you learned this fucking nonsense.
Potheads always deny anything bad about pot. Talk about bias. At least alcoholics will ADMIT booze is bad for you. They just don't give a fuck.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:31 AM   #42
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so, the bottom line is, you think it is not a great thing for people to do, so you see nothing wrong with completely stripping one of their freedoms, forcing them at the point of a policeman's gun to be locked away in a jail for simply possessing this relatively benign herb that god has given us?

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well you won't make any good in busting them, but it's definitely no super evolution to make anyone smoke pot .. it's not that a huge evoluton..
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:33 AM   #43
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so you make an argument that people who smoke are not reliable to YOU? Go fuck YOUrself. Dickface.
this is no bulletproof arguement, I am only saying that people who I know that smoke pot are the ones I would NEVER employ.. even I can accept them as a company..
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:35 AM   #44
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that's a bunch of bullshit.
Tell me what is so great about smoking pot..
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:36 AM   #45
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You are widely uneducated, and wildly misinformed about marijuana. You need to read the book Understanding Marijuana (an objective summary of all studies on marijuana) then come back here and see if you would make the same arguments. It's people like you that believe in that propaganda shoved down our throats that perpetuate the myths.
thank you I have only seen what I have seen, thank you very much...
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:38 AM   #46
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So basically what you're saying is one should tie their shoes BEFORE lighting up?
I am saying that if you cope with a hangover it's something different to that you are an idiot...
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:40 AM   #47
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You are the second largest idiot with little to no education on this board. congrats
Thanks a lot I have a degree in biomedical engeneering, maybe it's the cause I am against all those trandy pro - weed activites...
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Please show us where you learned this fucking nonsense.
I just read that on the web that's like the web for the drug association, I can chase for the link.. as I said I searched all the informatinon as I was seeking for the eveidence that our programmer was a fuckin pothead nutshell idiot.. he fucked everything up as he was high...
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and CarlosTheGaucho, you're a moron...any psychological problems you've seen in people that might smoke weed, it goes a lot further than the weed. People who are screwed up and smoke weed, in anyone I've known, they were screwups long before they ever smoked...people like you just like to use weed as the excuse for it.
No drug that was ever invented brings positive results dude... if you can cope with yourself, you are a lucky man..

I won't promote any shit just because it's trendy..
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I smoke weed and it drives me forward, helps me relax, and rewards me for working hard (working hard because my weed is so dam expensive! )

But not everybody can separate the drug from the work, not everyone can be responsible. I also don't think kids should have access to it, or think that because they can get high they don't have responsibilities.
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